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Offline Shutter

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2014, 07:28:32 PM »


The remains of a woman were found sitting in front of her TV - 42 years after she was reported missing. Hedviga Golik, who was born in 1924, had apparently made herself a cup of tea before sitting in her favorite armchair in front of her black and white television set. Croatian police said that she was last seen by neighbors in 1966, when she would have been 42 years old. Her neighbors thought she had moved out of her flat in Zagreb.

However, she was found by police and bailiffs when they broke in to help the authorities establish who owned the flat. When officers went there, they said it was like stepping into a place frozen in time. The cup from which she had been drinking tea was still on a table next to the chair where she had been sitting, and the house was full of things no one had seen for a long time. Nothing had been disturbed for decades, although there were more than a few cobwebs in there.

Despite numerous actions by tenants, who noticed that nobody had been using the flat since 1970, as well as those by city services, which requested that the apartment be broken into and examined, nobody reacted to their pleas for nearly four decades

 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2014, 09:38:37 PM »
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Vickie:
You Say:     "My point being...skeletal remains were intact after 60 years in the Pacific Northwest. There may be hope in finding the "Cooper" remains."

I Say:   "Too bad you would like to think that DB died in the jump. Actually, my suspect Sheridan Peterson made it safely as he was a Skydiving Instructor/ Smoke Jumper  with years of experience and ability to survive and walk out from anywhere. He is alive and living in California today and almost 90 years old. Hopefully, he will write part 2 of his book and it will tell us how it was done. Note that none of the other skydivers from skyjacked planes died in the jump as it was a cake-walk for an experienced skydiver."

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One thing to remember, Sailshaw.  Maybe Sheridan wanted to hijack and plane and jump. Maybe he planned on doing one.

However, that doesn't mean he did this one.
 

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« Reply #92 on: May 01, 2014, 12:50:53 AM »
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Vickie:
You Say:     "My point being...skeletal remains were intact after 60 years in the Pacific Northwest. There may be hope in finding the "Cooper" remains."

I Say:   "Too bad you would like to think that DB died in the jump. Actually, my suspect Sheridan Peterson made it safely as he was a Skydiving Instructor/ Smoke Jumper  with years of experience and ability to survive and walk out from anywhere. He is alive and living in California today and almost 90 years old. Hopefully, he will write part 2 of his book and it will tell us how it was done. Note that none of the other skydivers from skyjacked planes died in the jump as it was a cake-walk for an experienced skydiver."

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Sail, have you made any recent attempt to communicate with Pete?
 

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« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2014, 10:11:36 AM »
Goerger  you say:  "Sail, have you made any recent attempt to communicate with Pete?"

I say:  "My last communication with Sheridan ended with him saying " Get the Fxxx off my back" and my saying  " That is not me on your back but is your nurse just trying to give you a back rub".

Since then I have left him alone but he knows that I know a lot about him and that he did the "job" and it was not a big deal as he researched it for a long time (at least 10 years that I know about). He even has a connection to his buddy Earl Cossey that he got to know at Issaquah Skydiving Sports. Sharidon was the President of the Boeing Skydiving Club at the time and they used Issaquah as their DZ. This relationship with Cossey might have developed into a partnership for Cossey to be the ground/pickup man for Norjak and the launder of the loot through the many Cassino's that Cossey frequently visited. Probsbly Cossey was the investor of the loot and sent Sharidan money on request in laundered funds. Was Sharidon involved with the death of Cossey? It is a possibility and the Sheriff has the information that Sharidon may have been involved and his DNA is on file with the FBI. Did they have a fight when the money was all used up? Sharidon has stated that he is recovering from being beat up, Is it related to Cossey's final battle with him. Sharidon is a tough old Marine and has been a fighter all his life including his time in a "Home for the Boys" and his Dad beating him unconscious several times.  My hope is that he writes part 2 of his book to tell how DB Cooper did the Norjak Job and evaded the FBI smart guys for over 40 years. Part 1 of his book could be sub-titled "The Grudge" and Part 2 "The Revenge".

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« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2014, 10:43:06 AM »
MarkBennett:  You say:  "One thing to remember, Sailshaw.  Maybe Sheridan wanted to hijack and plane and jump. Maybe he planned on doing one.
However, that doesn't mean he did this one."

I say:  "You have to remember that the TIE left on the plane had both types of Titanium (pure and alloy) fragments and that was like an address to where Sheridan Peterson worked at Boeing in the "Manual and Handbooks Group". Sharidon's office was on the 2nd floor of the 9-101 building and located just over the Materials and Processes Lab on the first floor. Sheridan had to pass by the scrap tub skids in the hallways on two sides of the M&P Lab at least 3 to 4 times a day. He would have looked into the tub skids (as I often did) to look at the neat stuff there and would have got the particles of both types of Titanium on his tie as it would have dropped into the tub skid when he bent over to look. Boeing was the only place in the North West to have both types of Titanium, so the particles on the tie were like an address to where DB/Sheridan worked. That ties him to the Norjak caper and that he did the job. Sorry if I am repeating myself but I believe it answers your question.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2014, 12:59:01 PM »
How do we know Cooper didn't buy that tie a day prior to the crime? I haven't seen any pics from any of the suspects showing them wearing a clip on tie. I'm not saying it's not possible, but the questions remains.
 

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« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2014, 01:06:24 PM »
Shutter is right.  In the 1960s and early 1970s, I saw clip on ties in drug stores selling for a couple of bucks.  Cooper could have bought it on his way to the airport.
 

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« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2014, 01:32:36 PM »
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Shutter is right.  In the 1960s and early 1970s, I saw clip on ties in drug stores selling for a couple of bucks.  Cooper could have bought it on his way to the airport.

Or, a second hand store. I'm sure he realized it would of blown off when he left the plane. the tie clip was widely manufactured by multiple companies. the tie was obviously used since it had evidence of a tie tack being used at one point. the clip was nice, but cheap. I have one. it's considered NOS, new old stock. the clip bends when you try to put it on, you have to be careful when putting it on. the clip Cooper had shows the same problem.
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« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2014, 02:36:14 PM »
Sail, you've said a couple of times that the tie had two forms of titanium.  I thought it had been resolved by Tom Kaye that there was only one, pure Ti, which you said was used at Boeing as paint in the finish of the SST wings.

 

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« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2014, 04:12:58 PM »
"One thing to remember, Sailshaw.  Maybe Sheridan wanted to hijack and plane and jump. Maybe he planned on doing one.

However, that doesn't mean he did this one."

another possibility could be that Sheridan knows who did it, or possibly orchestrated the plan? why does it HAVE to be him that did it?

Just a thought.  8)
 

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« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2014, 05:17:59 PM »
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"One thing to remember, Sailshaw.  Maybe Sheridan wanted to hijack and plane and jump. Maybe he planned on doing one.

However, that doesn't mean he did this one."

another possibility could be that Sheridan knows who did it, or possibly orchestrated the plan? why does it HAVE to be him that did it?

Just a thought.  8)

Or, that he was just one of a number of people researching opportunities to jump jets, because of the opportunity the new 727 rear stair jets provided.

At length he did cooperate fully and gave dna to compare with the alleged Cooper specimen, and seems to have distanced himself from Cooper speculation since?

We dont have any of the evidence to examine in any event, so we can only speculate and wait for something ... ?

 
 

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« Reply #101 on: May 02, 2014, 10:21:38 AM »
BruceSmith   You say:    "Sail, you've said a couple of times that the tie had two forms of titanium.  I thought it had been resolved by Tom Kaye that there was only one, pure Ti, which you said was used at Boeing as paint in the finish of the SST wings."

I say:    "The only thing Tom Kaye did was to make a wild and very bad guess that Boeing only used alloy titanium and the pure titanium found on the tie ruled out Boeing. Contrary to Tom's wild guess, the two types (Pure and Alloy) made Boeing the only source of both types in the North West at that time using both and in fact pointed to the 9-101 building at Boeing where the Manufacturing and Processing Lab was located on the main floor and Sheridan's office was directly above on the 2nd floor. The pure titanium was being expermited with in the lab to flame spray the leading edges of the SST airplane wings and tails as it was better than the alloy for abrasion and higher temperature characteristics. When I mentioned this fact to Tom Kaye, he just blew it off and did not want to talk about it. The two types of titanium found on the tie were like an address to the 9-101 bldg and the same location where Sheridan worked. The clip on tie was most likely the everyday work tie as it looks like the tie in the Boeing News photo was not a clip on but looked just like the same stile (narrow black tie). Why did he leave it on the airplane? It would have blown away in the jump and provided a "Have Gun Will Travel" style calling card for the FBI to find."

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #102 on: May 02, 2014, 10:36:02 AM »
Georger 

You say:  "We dont have any of the evidence to examine in any event, so we can only speculate and wait for something ... ?"

I say:   "We do have the DNA from under the stamps and envelope flaps of the four letters written to the newspapers just after Norjak. The FBI can compare that DNA with what they have of Sheridan's and a match will prove he was in Portland (the scene of the crime) and not in Nepal as he told the FBI (that is a lie and punishment is jail time). Why won't the FBI examine the four letters they have for DNA?  Because the FBI has decided that the phony conclusion of Earl Cossey that DB died in the jump is true and they are sticking to that story. Cossey could of been Sheridan's partner and groundman/money launder. That would explain the many bad statements by Cossey to through the FBI off of Sheridan's track.  So, we do have evidence to examine (the four envelopes) and need to quickly solve this case."

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« Reply #103 on: May 02, 2014, 04:52:21 PM »
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Georger 

You say:  "We dont have any of the evidence to examine in any event, so we can only speculate and wait for something ... ?"

I say:   "We do have the DNA from under the stamps and envelope flaps of the four letters written to the newspapers just after Norjak. The FBI can compare that DNA with what they have of Sheridan's and a match will prove he was in Portland (the scene of the crime) and not in Nepal as he told the FBI (that is a lie and punishment is jail time). Why won't the FBI examine the four letters they have for DNA?  Because the FBI has decided that the phony conclusion of Earl Cossey that DB died in the jump is true and they are sticking to that story. Cossey could of been Sheridan's partner and groundman/money launder. That would explain the many bad statements by Cossey to through the FBI off of Sheridan's track.  So, we do have evidence to examine (the four envelopes) and need to quickly solve this case."

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agree - evidence would exist if the stamps were examined for dna. Likewise the metal fragment Tom has but he may
not be willing to give it up for examination? Who owns the particles Tom has? I think your Ti remarks are worth
further research (for sure). I am just not convinced the FBI is going to do anything.

 


 
 

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« Reply #104 on: May 02, 2014, 10:19:04 PM »
Bruce says:    "Sail, you've said a couple of times that the tie had two forms of titanium.  I thought it had been resolved by Tom Kaye that there was only one, pure Ti, which you said was used at Boeing as paint in the finish of the SST wings."

Sail says:    "The only thing Tom Kaye did was to make a wild and very bad guess that Boeing only used alloy titanium and the pure titanium found on the tie ruled out Boeing...."


Bruce responds:
Sail, your perspective on Tom's findings are in complete opposition to what I heard from Tom at the Portland Symposium in 2011.  Then, Tom specifically said that the titanium the CS found on the tie was  pure Ti, and that the public announcement that the tie contained titanium alloy was presented exclusively by Geoffrey and was wholly in error.

Further, Tom told me that how this happened was that the early test indications from the CS found spectrographic evidence that could have been Ti alloy, and Geoffrey "jumped the gun" with his announcement.  However, Tom told me that these false indications were most likely due to chlorine and sulfur residues left on the tie by match-cigarette particles.  The CS later proved definitively that the Ti shards were pure Ti, but the alloy angle stayed in the Cooper lore thanks to Geoffrey.