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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4365 on: July 20, 2020, 04:32:18 PM »
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4366 on: July 21, 2020, 05:28:45 AM »
It's a mess over there..Robert's on his 20th "last post". still looks like he's working with Derek to get the thread shutdown..he has zero respect for the site trying to pull members off the thread by advertising for yet another forum. attempt, 12, 13?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4367 on: July 21, 2020, 06:43:48 AM »
As per DZ issues.... If it does get shut down could we possibly recruit Flyjack to rejoin us? I personally enjoy his posts. I worry that he won't have an avenue for his posts. ( and please don't suggest he go to you- know- who's new Cooper site. He might die of loneliness.)
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4368 on: July 21, 2020, 11:22:08 AM »
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As per DZ issues.... If it does get shut down could we possibly recruit Flyjack to rejoin us? I personally enjoy his posts. I worry that he won't have an avenue for his posts. ( and please don't suggest he go to you- know- who's new Cooper site. He might die of loneliness.)

I would second this even though I know he dislikes me.... I actually support some of his work. I doubt he will go to the Blevins side. He isn't going to deal with Blevins!

What I dont understand is DZ's attitude. 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4369 on: July 21, 2020, 05:45:42 PM »
Tina's Husband, continued.

What I know of Allan Larson, I learned from Galen, with a little extra thrown in from Bill Rataczak, who talked with him while looking for Tina back a few years ago. I believe it's all in my book.

Allan still lives in the Bay Area, and wishes no contact from researchers, reporters, and other Cooper folks. As he is a fragile person, I have agreed to Galen's request not to contact Allan directly. For my purposes, I know everything I need to know about Allan at this point, courtesy of Galen. Further, I don't see a need to dig more deeply. Yes, there could be gems of information about Norjak, but at what cost? And it would still require confirmation from Tina, so we're back where we started.

Allan's state of mind was well-described by Rataczak. Allan sounds like he has a tenuous grip on things. When Bill spoke with him, he didn't know who Bill was, didn't know how to get in touch with Tina, nor did he know how to get in touch with Jane and Lee Mucklow-Dormuth. I believe this was back in the 1980s. Galen spoke with Allan circa 2010-2012.

As far as I know, Sluggo's information on Tina's husband is incorrect. How Snowmman got involved in the mix-up, I don't know.

And yes, Tina was known as Sister Mary Alice in the Carmelite monastery.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4370 on: July 21, 2020, 05:49:42 PM »
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As per DZ issues.... If it does get shut down could we possibly recruit Flyjack to rejoin us? I personally enjoy his posts. I worry that he won't have an avenue for his posts. ( and please don't suggest he go to you- know- who's new Cooper site. He might die of loneliness.)

Ah, Haggar... when Flyjack was here I remember well the sparks that flew between him and Georger. It's kind of like those cowboys movies from my youth - "Texas ain't big enough for the two of us."

But Fly has a lot to say, so he's gonna need a platform somewhere. Why not PM him and ask him to come back?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4371 on: July 21, 2020, 09:25:50 PM »
Anyone who decides to join his forum needs to use extreme caution. he will use personal info against you or anything of value you tell him in confidence. he will open it to the public one week and close the next. he hides all the stats..as been known to post under an alias to make it appear the forum is active lol..I've lost count of how many he has had..the clock is ticking on him anyway...won't be much longer...he should know being the one who has all the first hand info about Cooper  8)
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4372 on: July 21, 2020, 09:32:58 PM »
Derek is NOT spamming..he seems to be on a one man destructive mission. "his way or the highway"..Robert is describing a separate spam issue on the DZ with his quote. it's in reference to actual spammers getting in and making new threads. Robert conveniently posted the admins. response making it appear to be the current problem on the Cooper thread..

Guts has nothing to do with trying to stop the unstoppable..it only makes matters worse by posting..serves no purpose at all...
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4373 on: July 21, 2020, 09:57:02 PM »
What do you think Shutter? Would you have any issue with trying to recruit Flyjack to return here?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4374 on: July 21, 2020, 11:40:38 PM »
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As per DZ issues.... If it does get shut down could we possibly recruit Flyjack to rejoin us? I personally enjoy his posts. I worry that he won't have an avenue for his posts. ( and please don't suggest he go to you- know- who's new Cooper site. He might die of loneliness.)

Ah, Haggar... when Flyjack was here I remember well the sparks that flew between him and Georger. It's kind of like those cowboys movies from my youth - "Texas ain't big enough for the two of us."

But Fly has a lot to say, so he's gonna need a platform somewhere. Why not PM him and ask him to come back?

You exaggerate as usual. I made the points I needed to make regarding FJ's claims, but it wasn't personal. FJ makes everything personal. FJ then attacked Shutter multiple times and that ended his stay - simple. I had nothing to with him coming, or leaving ... and neither did you! FJ also dislikes R99 and Ulis intensely. Who knows what would happen if he came back but ... I very much like him keeping track of new FOIA files and examining them. That is a valuable service he performs which saves everyone a ton of time. He deserves full credit for that. I consider FJ almost irreplaceable and I wish DZ would settle down so he could post again.     
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4375 on: July 21, 2020, 11:55:05 PM »
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Tina's Husband, continued.

What I know of Allan Larson, I learned from Galen, with a little extra thrown in from Bill Rataczak, who talked with him while looking for Tina back a few years ago. I believe it's all in my book.

Allan still lives in the Bay Area, and wishes no contact from researchers, reporters, and other Cooper folks. As he is a fragile person, I have agreed to Galen's request not to contact Allan directly. For my purposes, I know everything I need to know about Allan at this point, courtesy of Galen. Further, I don't see a need to dig more deeply. Yes, there could be gems of information about Norjak, but at what cost? And it would still require confirmation from Tina, so we're back where we started.

Allan's state of mind was well-described by Rataczak. Allan sounds like he has a tenuous grip on things. When Bill spoke with him, he didn't know who Bill was, didn't know how to get in touch with Tina, nor did he know how to get in touch with Jane and Lee Mucklow-Dormuth. I believe this was back in the 1980s. Galen spoke with Allan circa 2010-2012.

As far as I know, Sluggo's information on Tina's husband is incorrect. How Snowmman got involved in the mix-up, I don't know.

And yes, Tina was known as Sister Mary Alice in the Carmelite monastery.

At this late date Im not sure any of this matters. I think Sluggo leapt before checking things out. JT thinks Sluggo got his lead from Jo?  :-\  Im surprised it took years to unravel! Such is the nature of forums and forum citizens.

I cant contribute to anyone's conspiracy theory involving Tina or her husband who could have been Mickey Mouse as far as I know!  The idea Tina went into a monastery as part of some witness protection program is far fetched .... unless getting married to some guy shortly after the hijacking was a form of witness protection ... having a protector from child abuse ....  or simply because Tina needed a new buffalo robe! I think any claim that Tina hid out on Mt Everest is also untrue.  :nono:       
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4376 on: July 22, 2020, 12:47:31 AM »
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As per DZ issues.... If it does get shut down could we possibly recruit Flyjack to rejoin us? I personally enjoy his posts. I worry that he won't have an avenue for his posts. ( and please don't suggest he go to you- know- who's new Cooper site. He might die of loneliness.)

Ah, Haggar... when Flyjack was here I remember well the sparks that flew between him and Georger. It's kind of like those cowboys movies from my youth - "Texas ain't big enough for the two of us."

But Fly has a lot to say, so he's gonna need a platform somewhere. Why not PM him and ask him to come back?

You exaggerate as usual. I made the points I needed to make regarding FJ's claims, but it wasn't personal. FJ makes everything personal. FJ then attacked Shutter multiple times and that ended his stay - simple. I had nothing to with him coming, or leaving ... and neither did you! FJ also dislikes R99 and Ulis intensely. Who knows what would happen if he came back but ... I very much like him keeping track of new FOIA files and examining them. That is a valuable service he performs which saves everyone a ton of time. He deserves full credit for that. I consider FJ almost irreplaceable and I wish DZ would settle down so he could post again.     

I don't know if I deserve any credit for Flyjack leaving this site or not, but I did publicly ask Shutter to "throw Flyjack's ass off this site".  If I had a vote on Flyjack returning to this site, and I don't, I would vote NO!

Eric Ulis can speak for himself.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4377 on: July 22, 2020, 09:03:58 AM »
I just thought I'd throw the idea out there. I don't want to cause any issues here. I am not asking for a vote. It's Shutter's forum and I certainly understand why he might not want to deal with any potential problems right now. I appreciate Flyjack's contributions to the case and would like to see him have a place to post. I have no idea if he would even be interested in returning.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4378 on: July 22, 2020, 05:02:47 PM »
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I just thought I'd throw the idea out there. I don't want to cause any issues here. I am not asking for a vote. It's Shutter's forum and I certainly understand why he might not want to deal with any potential problems right now. I appreciate Flyjack's contributions to the case and would like to see him have a place to post. I have no idea if he would even be interested in returning.

Not that I have any clout with any of you, but I agree with this. Flyjack makes solid contributions to the case, and he needs a place to express them. He and Georger do their back-and-forths over the two sites anyways, so if they were both on this site it would at least be easier to keep track of. (Yeah that was kind of a joke but there is validity to it.)
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4379 on: August 06, 2020, 02:08:10 AM »
Just jumping in here anywhere because have been/off on the forum with various life stuff going on. Funnily enough, I Googled Petey tonight - hadn't realized he had YouTube videos up (someone may have mentioned it here before) but he posted a Rackstraw as DBC video. If he was also hanging with *cough* someone who actually pushed the silly KC theory, sure seems like he was pointing fingers in all directions around that time. He's also got sillybuns linked to his name on Google somehow so sillybuns' so-full-of-holes-it-could-be-macrame "debunking" of Petey as a suspect gets brought up when you search. Nonetheless, he remains a suspect close to my heart and I hope he's doing ok. 
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