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Offline Lynn

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #2340 on: February 28, 2018, 08:07:01 PM »
It's a shame they're throwing that out. I would have visited just for that.

Hmm, well, you know, I only got interested in the case in the last couple of years, I think the first trigger being a re-run of Unsolved Mysteries. Prison Break also had a DB Cooper, Charles Westmoreland, who was never captured as Cooper because he got picked up on vehicular manslaughter. Don Draper as DB Cooper would have made perfect sense (though I'm fairly sure Don would have cratered). Don't know why they didn't do it - just given the time of the show's finale, and Don ditching the necktie would have made for some nice symbolism.

But people who like mysteries do discover the case- there's a guy at my work who knows a lot about it, and a former HS friend is fascinated by it as well. They're both around my age, so not old enough to remember the original news item. Plus there are a few history sites on Facebook and elsewhere that run the story intermittently. But it probably doesn't help that every year or two news articles basing their stories on one promoter or another announcing it's "solved" come out, or that the feds went several years pretty much sticking to the party line that he died.

There are, of course, people who need blood or insanity to enjoy a true crime story. But I think the Internet might keep Cooper alive longer than expected. A movie would be great, but the ending is the problem. Everyone knows he jumped, but before the ticket purchase and after the jump, everything's blank.

Still, I'd like to see one recreation that didn't get something wrong. What was the awful one that had Cooper shouting at Tina to take her Bible back to the cockpit? That was weird. Can't remember which one it was.
 

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« Reply #2341 on: February 28, 2018, 09:25:47 PM »
There was also the TV show "Leverage" a few years ago that had Cooper and Tina being a couple after the hijacking. They also had Cooper wearing a hat during the hijacking.
 

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« Reply #2342 on: March 01, 2018, 12:07:26 AM »
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It's a shame they're throwing that out. I would have visited just for that.

Hmm, well, you know, I only got interested in the case in the last couple of years, I think the first trigger being a re-run of Unsolved Mysteries. Prison Break also had a DB Cooper, Charles Westmoreland, who was never captured as Cooper because he got picked up on vehicular manslaughter. Don Draper as DB Cooper would have made perfect sense (though I'm fairly sure Don would have cratered). Don't know why they didn't do it - just given the time of the show's finale, and Don ditching the necktie would have made for some nice symbolism.

But people who like mysteries do discover the case- there's a guy at my work who knows a lot about it, and a former HS friend is fascinated by it as well. They're both around my age, so not old enough to remember the original news item. Plus there are a few history sites on Facebook and elsewhere that run the story intermittently. But it probably doesn't help that every year or two news articles basing their stories on one promoter or another announcing it's "solved" come out, or that the feds went several years pretty much sticking to the party line that he died.

There are, of course, people who need blood or insanity to enjoy a true crime story. But I think the Internet might keep Cooper alive longer than expected. A movie would be great, but the ending is the problem. Everyone knows he jumped, but before the ticket purchase and after the jump, everything's blank.

Still, I'd like to see one recreation that didn't get something wrong. What was the awful one that had Cooper shouting at Tina to take her Bible back to the cockpit? That was weird. Can't remember which one it was.

Years ago we tried to convince the FBI to turn the Cooper case over to the Smithsonian, complete with a display of the evidence. We would have been willing to forgo any further analysis (or even contribute analysis) and let the Smithsonian take charge.   :)

The case is badly in need of consolidation and re-examination with modern forensic tools.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #2343 on: March 01, 2018, 05:00:44 AM »
Is interest in the Cooper Skyjacking Fading? Are only old coots still interested in sleuthing, and holding the flame? No, I don't think so. Here are the demographics:

Over 60 years-old:
1. Me - 68
2. 377 - about the same
3. Georger - 150+
4. R99 - 80-something
5. Jo Weber - ahem....

40-60:
1. Shut
2. Marty
3. Mark B. (maybe)
4. Nimi Wrecks
5. Brian R
6. Parrot (maybe)
7. Meyer
8. Galen
9. Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero radio
10. RMB
11. Lynn (maybe)
12. Flyjack (maybe)

Young Turks, 20-40:
1. Derek
2. Nicky
3. Dovid
4. EVick (maybe)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #2344 on: March 01, 2018, 10:04:35 AM »
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Update on Suspects

2018 Update on Suspects and Sleuths-Advocates

1. Kenny Christiansen     - RMB, circa 2007
2. Joe Lakich              - Bill Rollins, 2015
3. James Klansnic           - Derek, and some of the Dominoes
4. Duane Weber              - Jo Weber, 1995
5. LD Cooper              - Marla “Twisty Butt” Cooper, 2010
6. Barb Dayton              - Ron and Pat Forman, 1996/2002/2008
7. Sheridan Peterson      - Bob Sailshaw, 1961/1971/2010
8. Ted Braden              - Half of the 5th Special Forces, Billy Waugh, 1971/present
9. Airborne Bob              - Tom Colbert and 40 retired LE guys, 2012-ish
10. Jumping Jack Cash   - Bradley Cooper (son of Jack Collins)
11. Mr. Sonnen              - Chael Sonnen (his son)
12. Wolfie Gossett           - Galen Cook, Clyde Lewis (Ground Zero Radio, Portland), Wolf's sons
13. Don Burnworth        - Captain Gray Goose
14. Richard McCoy           - SAC Russ Calame, Lars Larson – host of KXL Radio, Portland
15. Richard Lepsy      - Nimi Wrecks, aka Ross Richardson, Lisa Lepsy
16. Mel Wilson              - Jerry Thomas, Vicki Wilson (maybe)

Did I miss anyone?

Don't know about everyone else, but this thing is just getting really interesting.. and opening up a huge unexplored area and group of people to investigate.

Found that nexus between Weinberg's Seattle "Dan Cooper" Comic and a perfect match for the tie particle environment.


any of those previous suspects...

match ALL of the almost 40 major tie particles environment,
were in that environment from 1966-1971 matching the manufacture age of the tie,
was a pilot AND skydiver,
part of a tight group of ex military pilots,
associated to a house next to river and upstream of TBAR in the late 70's,
AND is 1 "associate" away from Albert Weinberg's Seattle "Dan Cooper" comic.
ETC..

One of these "associates" actually produced an airplane themed comic... (US market)
 

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« Reply #2345 on: March 01, 2018, 10:34:04 AM »
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Is interest in the Cooper Skyjacking Fading? Are only old coots still interested in sleuthing, and holding the flame? No, I don't think so. Here are the demographics:

Over 60 years-old:
1. Me - 68
2. 377 - about the same
3. Georger - 150+
4. R99 - 80-something
5. Jo Weber - ahem....

40-60:
1. Shut
2. Marty
3. Mark B. (maybe)
4. Nimi Wrecks
5. Brian R
6. Parrot (maybe)
7. Meyer
8. Galen
9. Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero radio
10. RMB
11. Lynn (maybe)
12. Flyjack (maybe)

Young Turks, 20-40:
1. Derek
2. Nicky
3. Dovid
4. EVick (maybe)

I'm 56 -- so good guess.  I can't confirm eVick's age, but let's just say you could ask her 28-year old daughter.
 

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« Reply #2346 on: March 01, 2018, 07:11:22 PM »
But she looks so young!

Wait a second - Michele is 28? She just graduated from college a couple of years ago. Sail invited her, EVick, and me to lunch when the Young One and her momma were in Seattle giving a talk at some conference.
 

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« Reply #2347 on: March 01, 2018, 07:14:04 PM »
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Update on Suspects

2018 Update on Suspects and Sleuths-Advocates

1. Kenny Christiansen     - RMB, circa 2007
2. Joe Lakich              - Bill Rollins, 2015
3. James Klansnic           - Derek, and some of the Dominoes
4. Duane Weber              - Jo Weber, 1995
5. LD Cooper              - Marla “Twisty Butt” Cooper, 2010
6. Barb Dayton              - Ron and Pat Forman, 1996/2002/2008
7. Sheridan Peterson      - Bob Sailshaw, 1961/1971/2010
8. Ted Braden              - Half of the 5th Special Forces, Billy Waugh, 1971/present
9. Airborne Bob              - Tom Colbert and 40 retired LE guys, 2012-ish
10. Jumping Jack Cash   - Bradley Cooper (son of Jack Collins)
11. Mr. Sonnen              - Chael Sonnen (his son)
12. Wolfie Gossett           - Galen Cook, Clyde Lewis (Ground Zero Radio, Portland), Wolf's sons
13. Don Burnworth        - Captain Gray Goose
14. Richard McCoy           - SAC Russ Calame, Lars Larson – host of KXL Radio, Portland
15. Richard Lepsy      - Nimi Wrecks, aka Ross Richardson, Lisa Lepsy
16. Mel Wilson              - Jerry Thomas, Vicki Wilson (maybe)

Did I miss anyone?

Don't know about everyone else, but this thing is just getting really interesting.. and opening up a huge unexplored area and group of people to investigate.

Found that nexus between Weinberg's Seattle "Dan Cooper" Comic and a perfect match for the tie particle environment.


any of those previous suspects...

match ALL of the almost 40 major tie particles environment,
were in that environment from 1966-1971 matching the manufacture age of the tie,
was a pilot AND skydiver,
part of a tight group of ex military pilots,
associated to a house next to river and upstream of TBAR in the late 70's,
AND is 1 "associate" away from Albert Weinberg's Seattle "Dan Cooper" comic.
ETC..

One of these "associates" actually produced an airplane themed comic... (US market)

Fly, if you would like an invitation to meet Jo Weber, just let me know. I can arrange it. One piece of advice - don't let her drive you anywhere. She drove me three blocks and we almost had two accidents...
 

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« Reply #2348 on: March 01, 2018, 07:39:42 PM »
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Is interest in the Cooper Skyjacking Fading? Are only old coots still interested in sleuthing, and holding the flame? No, I don't think so. Here are the demographics:

Over 60 years-old:
1. Me - 68
2. 377 - about the same
3. Georger - 150+
4. R99 - 80-something
5. Jo Weber - ahem....

40-60:
1. Shut
2. Marty
3. Mark B. (maybe)
4. Nimi Wrecks
5. Brian R
6. Parrot (maybe)
7. Meyer
8. Galen
9. Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero radio
10. RMB
11. Lynn (maybe)
12. Flyjack (maybe)

Young Turks, 20-40:
1. Derek
2. Nicky
3. Dovid
4. EVick (maybe)
5. Darren - 32

 :D
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« Reply #2349 on: March 01, 2018, 08:18:48 PM »
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ne it was.

Years ago we tried to convince the FBI to turn the Cooper case over to the Smithsonian, complete with a display of the evidence. We would have been willing to forgo any further analysis (or even contribute analysis) and let the Smithsonian take charge.   :)

The case is badly in need of consolidation and re-examination with modern forensic tools.
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I agree. And I hope DB gets his exhibit one day. It's quite valid. The 60s-70s Age of Hijacking is a historical fact. I remember hijacking jokes in Bugs Bunny supermarket comics when I was a kid. I barely noticed when the hijackings mostly stopped, because everybody was all serial killers this, mass shooters that.  :o
 

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« Reply #2350 on: March 01, 2018, 08:20:33 PM »
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Is interest in the Cooper Skyjacking Fading? Are only old coots still interested in sleuthing, and holding the flame? No, I don't think so. Here are the demographics:

Over 60 years-old:
1. Me - 68
2. 377 - about the same
3. Georger - 150+
4. R99 - 80-something
5. Jo Weber - ahem....

40-60:
1. Shut
2. Marty
3. Mark B. (maybe)
4. Nimi Wrecks
5. Brian R
6. Parrot (maybe)
7. Meyer
8. Galen
9. Clyde Lewis at Ground Zero radio
10. RMB
11. Lynn (maybe)
12. Flyjack (maybe)

Young Turks, 20-40:
1. Derek
2. Nicky
3. Dovid
4. EVick (maybe)
You are a gentleman. I'm hitting the big 5-0 this month. And, alas, not in Hawaii.
 

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« Reply #2351 on: March 01, 2018, 08:26:17 PM »
No maybe about it Bruce, I’m 51.
 

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« Reply #2352 on: March 01, 2018, 08:27:53 PM »
Aw, shucks, Lynn.
 

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« Reply #2353 on: March 01, 2018, 11:30:03 PM »
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But she looks so young!

Wait a second - Michele is 28? She just graduated from college a couple of years ago. Sail invited her, EVick, and me to lunch when the Young One and her momma were in Seattle giving a talk at some conference.

Her daughter's name is actually Nicole.   It was way back in 2013.  That was right around the time Earl Cossey was killed.  Time flies.
 
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« Reply #2354 on: March 01, 2018, 11:35:04 PM »
I believe Blevins is in his 60's...