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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7650 on: January 12, 2021, 10:47:36 AM »
Paul Solderlind is mentioned in this simulation of a fatal crash in 1963 killing everyone onboard.

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« Reply #7651 on: January 12, 2021, 02:32:40 PM »
Interesting Tina Mucklow article in Rolling Stone.

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« Reply #7652 on: January 12, 2021, 05:02:57 PM »
Yup, it's an interesting piece on Tina. Full-length, too.

It basically tells Tina's story as Tina wants it told, with lots of supplemental material from Bill Rataczak. Very positive and upbeat.

But is it true? Well, most of it seem to be, but is it the whole story? I don't know. But we do have some confirmation of Tina's life that had been a bit gray previously. To wit:

1. Tina was raised Lutheran; converted to Catholicism in 1978.
2. Was in the convent from 1981-1993. That's a couple years later than the nuns were saying and Galen and I had surmised, ie: 1979-1991.
3. No mention of Tina's life in San Diego, marriage to Allan, hospitalization in Gresham in 1979.
4. Flew domestically within one month of hijacking. Later flew international routes.
5. She denies that she ever had PTSD.

Tina also addresses the bad boys of media, such as yours truly, but not by name. I have an email into the author, Andrea Marks, at the Rolling Stone to learn more on how this piece came into being.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7653 on: January 12, 2021, 06:35:36 PM »
At least she is accepting interviews. also mentions of a movie.

Recently, Mucklow has reconsidered her silence, agreeing to occasional interviews. This year, marking the 50th anniversary of the famous crime, she’s consulting on the production of a scripted film — an action thriller by Joey McFarland and Dawn Bierschwal — about the crew’s experience of the hijacking.

Then the personal part of it..wonder if she reads any of the Cooper forums.

To others, Mucklow is a potential key to a nagging mystery. Since the Seventies, D.B. Cooper enthusiasts have reached out to her for answers about what happened. Some seem to think of her as a savior, who will be able put to rest all their burning questions about the case. After all, she did spend more time than anyone else with the hijacker. Her hesitancy to speak publicly about the events has fueled conspiracy theories that she must know more than she lets on. “They think there’s something wrong with you, or you’re connected to that person, or there’s something you’re hiding,” she says.

Reading further answers the question of Cooper boards..

Years later, that transition would fuel speculation on the several prolific D.B. Cooper message boards and blogs that launched in the 2000s: Was she driven into the sisterhood by something the hijacker did to her? Was the move a cover for entering witness protection? Pure gossip, Mucklow says. “I actually had chosen to come into the Catholic faith in ’78, and I wanted to explore my own spirituality and a deeper prayer life,” she says. “It had nothing to do with the FBI and nothing to do with the hijacking.”
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7654 on: January 12, 2021, 10:11:52 PM »
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Interesting Tina Mucklow article in Rolling Stone.

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Nice piece, but no one still hasn't asked her: 'can you still pick out DB Cooper if picture is shown to you?' Or - 'have you looked at any of the suspects today?'

We keep dragging this on.
 
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« Reply #7655 on: January 12, 2021, 10:18:40 PM »
I think she has been watching the case more than one tends to believe. she mentions things about suspects. would have to read it again to quote.

She needs to appear on a documentary that will ask the right questions.
 

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« Reply #7656 on: January 12, 2021, 11:29:17 PM »
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I think she has been watching the case more than one tends to believe. she mentions things about suspects. would have to read it again to quote.

She needs to appear on a documentary that will ask the right questions.

She also mentions things, in an unfavorable manner, that match perfectly with some of Bruce Smith's activities related to her.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7657 on: January 12, 2021, 11:50:44 PM »
FlyJack has posted information on DropZone (post #63085) that includes a newspaper report quoting Himmelsbach as claiming that in January 1972 the FBI flew the airliner over the hijacked route between SEATAC and Portland.  H claimed that Rataczak was flying the airliner on that flight and that they dropped a sled somewhere close to Portland.  No mention is made of Anderson being on that flight.

Nevertheless, Anderson, not Rataczak, is in the photo of the people that were involved in the January 1972 sled tests over the Pacific during which Anderson was acting as the flight engineer.  There is nothing to indicate that Rataczak was onboard during this flight.

So either there was two different sled flights and/or H gave a newspaper reporter some bad information.  I'll vote for the only sled test being over the Pacific and involving only Anderson.
 
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« Reply #7658 on: January 13, 2021, 12:36:03 PM »
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I think she has been watching the case more than one tends to believe. she mentions things about suspects. would have to read it again to quote.

She needs to appear on a documentary that will ask the right questions.

She also confirms that she did in fact do International Flights later on in her career.

Also mentions being a consultant on an movie that is being planned.
 

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« Reply #7659 on: January 13, 2021, 12:53:50 PM »
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So either there was two different sled flights and/or H gave a newspaper reporter some bad information.  I'll vote for the only sled test being over the Pacific and involving only Anderson.

You don't want to drop from 10,000 over populated area's. I believe dealing with fires they drop material with chutes at low altitudes to insure accuracy. 200 plus pounds from 10k wouldn't be funny for homes, cars, people etc. no chutes were used in the testing.
 

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« Reply #7660 on: January 13, 2021, 03:25:12 PM »
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So either there was two different sled flights and/or H gave a newspaper reporter some bad information.  I'll vote for the only sled test being over the Pacific and involving only Anderson.

You don't want to drop from 10,000 over populated area's. I believe dealing with fires they drop material with chutes at low altitudes to insure accuracy. 200 plus pounds from 10k wouldn't be funny for homes, cars, people etc. no chutes were used in the testing.

Agreed.  That newspaper item illustrates that there are multiple versions of just about every important event related to the Cooper hijacking.
 

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« Reply #7661 on: January 13, 2021, 06:44:40 PM »
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Yup, it's an interesting piece on Tina. Full-length, too.

It basically tells Tina's story as Tina wants it told, with lots of supplemental material from Bill Rataczak. Very positive and upbeat.

But is it true? Well, most of it seem to be, but is it the whole story? I don't know. But we do have some confirmation of Tina's life that had been a bit gray previously. To wit:

1. Tina was raised Lutheran; converted to Catholicism in 1978.
2. Was in the convent from 1981-1993. That's a couple years later than the nuns were saying and Galen and I had surmised, ie: 1979-1991.
3. No mention of Tina's life in San Diego, marriage to Allan, hospitalization in Gresham in 1979.
4. Flew domestically within one month of hijacking. Later flew international routes.
5. She denies that she ever had PTSD.

Tina also addresses the bad boys of media, such as yours truly, but not by name. I have an email into the author, Andrea Marks, at the Rolling Stone to learn more on how this piece came into being.

Bruce according to your timeline Tina leaves nwo a year or so after norjack but she says in this article that she continued to work for 10 more years with nwo flying international routes. What gives?
 

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« Reply #7662 on: January 13, 2021, 06:54:12 PM »
Yes, this is the second time that Tina has claimed that she worked as a flight attendant for ten years after the skyjacking. The first was in 2012 in the Eugene Weekly column: "Happening People."

Short answer: I don't know if Tina flew for ten years after the hijacking.

Longer Answer: I do know that she was hospitalized in a long-term care facility in 1979 in Gresham, Oregon.

When I first started composing a timeline for Tina, the nuns had told me Tina arrived in 1979, although they were 100% sure. Now, Tina is saying she arrived at the convent in 1981, two years later than I had initially thought.

To find some answers, Galen and I are discussing how to corroborate Tina's work history with NWO. I'm not sure how to do that.

Further, we do know that Tina lived in the Bay Area in the 1974-1977 period, and then in San Diego in the 1977-1978 time frame. Did she fly out of these cities and still work for NWO? Maybe. It's possible.
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« Reply #7663 on: January 13, 2021, 08:28:15 PM »
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Yes, this is the second time that Tina has claimed that she worked as a flight attendant for ten years after the skyjacking. The first was in 2012 in the Eugene Weekly column: "Happening People."

Short answer: I don't know if Tina flew for ten years after the hijacking.

Longer Answer: I do know that she was hospitalized in a long-term care facility in 1979 in Gresham, Oregon.

When I first started composing a timeline for Tina, the nuns had told me Tina arrived in 1979, although they were 100% sure. Now, Tina is saying she arrived at the convent in 1981, two years later than I had initially thought.

To find some answers, Galen and I are discussing how to corroborate Tina's work history with NWO. I'm not sure how to do that.

Further, we do know that Tina lived in the Bay Area in the 1974-1977 period, and then in San Diego in the 1977-1978 time frame. Did she fly out of these cities and still work for NWO? Maybe. It's possible.

Thanks Bruce let us know if you and Galen are able to corroborate the work history, I’d be very interested to find out the real story there. Maybe track down some former nwo flight attendants flying the international routes during that time? Also interesting she says she converts to the Catholic faith in 78 but goes to a Lutheran health care facility in 79.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7664 on: January 13, 2021, 09:31:05 PM »
Maybe I should ask the Christiansen family since Kenny was flying NWO International routes at the same time. "Say, Lyle, did Kenny ever mention that he worked the Tokyo flight with the primary witness to the DB Cooper skyjacking?"

Maybe RMB knows, eh?