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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5190 on: August 08, 2018, 05:33:21 PM »
DB Cooper in the News

A couple of local tidbits:

1. Doug Perry at the Oregonian did a great piece on the recent smatterings of decoding by Rick Sherwood of Tom Colbert's Cold Case Team. Doug and the O hired a bunch of cryptologists to assess TC's latest claims that the Letters, especially Letter #6, reveal conclusively that Robert Rackstraw is DBC.

Here's an email I got from Doug, with a  link to his work:

"I felt bad debunking Rick Sherwood’s work – he’s a nice guy who got roped into this."

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The bigger story remains however, and that is WHY do these retired FBI officials and cops still believe in all the Colbert garbage??? That is a toughie, as the LE are so reluctant to talk about their professional opinions and personal motivations. As far as I know, only Jim Forbes has jumped off the CCT Train.

2. The Formans and I are having dinner this Friday with a French magazine reporter. He's in the PNW for a few weeks, apparently collecting local stories. He caught wind of DB Cooper and he's off to the races... I suspect we'll also talk a lot of politics.

I also want his help in tracking down a story about a CIA operative in Brussels and the Belgian Congo who might have been the father of an old girlfriend. That story is at the MN if y'all are interested. At the very least I hope to be practicing my Francais...

 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5191 on: August 09, 2018, 12:20:30 AM »
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DB Cooper in the News

A couple of local tidbits:

1. Doug Perry at the Oregonian did a great piece on the recent smatterings of decoding by Rick Sherwood of Tom Colbert's Cold Case Team. Doug and the O hired a bunch of cryptologists to assess TC's latest claims that the Letters, especially Letter #6, reveal conclusively that Robert Rackstraw is DBC.

Here's an email I got from Doug, with a  link to his work:

"I felt bad debunking Rick Sherwood’s work – he’s a nice guy who got roped into this."

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The bigger story remains however, and that is WHY do these retired FBI officials and cops still believe in all the Colbert garbage??? That is a toughie, as the LE are so reluctant to talk about their professional opinions and personal motivations. As far as I know, only Jim Forbes has jumped off the CCT Train.

2. The Formans and I are having dinner this Friday with a French magazine reporter. He's in the PNW for a few weeks, apparently collecting local stories. He caught wind of DB Cooper and he's off to the races... I suspect we'll also talk a lot of politics.

I also want his help in tracking down a story about a CIA operative in Brussels and the Belgian Congo who might have been the father of an old girlfriend. That story is at the MN if y'all are interested. At the very least I hope to be practicing my Francais...

Smiling ... congrats to you, Gypsy, re- Mike Fitzsimmons (sp?) the radio guy and his interview with Lyle. Good work all!  I was amazed and pleased when I read that at your site.  ;)   In addition, it was Galen who tipped us off to all of this, so credit needs to include Galen. Galen talked to Mike long before any of us ...
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5192 on: August 09, 2018, 03:03:25 PM »
Colbert - Rackstraw Decoding Update

CBS-TV did a fine piece on Colbert's latest effort to decode "Letter #6." Here's an interview with Rick Sherwood, the guy who did the cryptographic work. I didn't know Sherwood also served with Rackstraw in Vietnam.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5193 on: August 09, 2018, 05:39:33 PM »
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Colbert - Rackstraw Decoding Update

CBS-TV did a fine piece on Colbert's latest effort to decode "Letter #6." Here's an interview with Rick Sherwood, the guy who did the cryptographic work. I didn't know Sherwood also served with Rackstraw in Vietnam.

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No question Rackstraw had the skills and temperament, but was he DB Cooper? 
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5194 on: August 09, 2018, 09:30:54 PM »
An updated piece from CBS-TV that has more on Sherwood.

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« Reply #5195 on: August 09, 2018, 09:32:35 PM »
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No question Rackstraw had the skills and temperament, but was he DB Cooper?


Yes, and why are Colbert and his CCT drinking so much Kool-Aid.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5196 on: August 11, 2018, 02:32:20 AM »
Despite the rumors you may be seeing and/or hearing, or even thinking about starting yourself, DB Cooper DID NOT steal and crash that airplane in Seattle tonight.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5197 on: August 11, 2018, 04:13:14 AM »
Wild Night in Cooper Country

While the Formans and I were talking with William Thorp from Societie Magazine, 30 miles to the west Cooper Country was going crazy as "Rich" from Alaska Air stole a Q400 and went for a joy ride.

We never saw anything, and I didn't know about it until I started cruising the Internet when I got home. Most of you probably know the basics, but KIRO-TV is giving great updates, and it's currently 1 am Tacoma time as I write this.

According to KIRO, they are being told by aviation crews at Sea-Tac that "Rich" was a normal guy with a security clearance that allowed him to work in the ground "Tow Team" operations. This op ferried shuttle aircraft like the Q400s back from the small passenger gates where they unload folks back to the hangars and maintenance yards. The planes' props are not usually fired-up, and the planes are towed back by the ground tugs. But, it's a two man job, with one guy driving the tug and the second guy in the cockpit steering things, as I understand the procedure.

After one towing operation this evening, Rich un-hitched a Q400 in a cargo hangar, cranked her up, and started taxiing down to Sea-Tac's main runway. He entered the queue from the cargo taxiway, which confused everyone, and then Rich jumped the line and took-off. He started his escapade at approximately at 8 pm, and did his barrel rolls and fly-bys for the next hour-plus. He supposedly flew over Eatonville and elsewhere over Pierce County, but we neither heard nor saw anything. At dark, approximately at 9:45 pm, Rich augured into Ketron Island and burned up.

Ketron is about 200 acres, with only a dozen people living on it.

KIRO is reporting that Rich had no formal pilot training, but how did he do barrel rolls? Any thoughts on how much training his flying would require? On the Seattle Center communications with Rich that are broadcast he talks about his video game playing as teaching him how to do rolls. Really?? C'mon.

IN the meantime, Sea-Tac experienced a Nov 24, 1971 evening. All planes were grounded and it became chaotic in the air and at all the terminals. The gates were jammed, with loaded planes looking for a parking space on taxiways. As a result, in-bound flights were diverted to neighboring airports in Yakima and Spokane - all on a hot Friday night in the summer. Whew. Hearing the diversion stories reminded by of Everett Johnson having to circle Paine Field in Everett on his way back from the San Juan Islands, and needing an emergency landing clearance because he was running out of fuel in his Kenair float plane.

But everyone is safe, so to speak, other than Rich, who is off on his next adventure in consciousness.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5198 on: August 11, 2018, 10:16:05 PM »
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5199 on: August 11, 2018, 10:16:14 PM »
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5200 on: August 12, 2018, 12:36:35 AM »
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I feel sorry for Shutter. Yet again he is put in the uncomfortable position of having to referee a mindless conflict. It is at once embarrassing and unnecessary. I have actually had people private message me their comments because they didn’t want to subject themselves to criticism consistent with that used by trolls. Enough is enough.

May I suggest three “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate”?

1)   No one is entitled to belittle the theories of others regardless of their nature.
2)   Language that would generally be viewed as unacceptable in public or church is to be viewed as unacceptable on the Forum.
3)   Vigorous debate is to be encouraged but should not be interpreted as a license to demean, belittle, badger, condescend or in any other manner verbally impugn the thoughts, ideas or theories of others on a personal level.

Regardless of whether these “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate” are adopted on a formal level, I will adopt them on a personal level. Meaning:

1)   I agree to abide by them when dealing with others.
2)   I will not respond to those who violate these rules when dealing with me.

All the best. Cheers!
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5201 on: August 12, 2018, 02:40:33 AM »
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I feel sorry for Shutter. Yet again he is put in the uncomfortable position of having to referee a mindless conflict. It is at once embarrassing and unnecessary. I have actually had people private message me their comments because they didn’t want to subject themselves to criticism consistent with that used by trolls. Enough is enough.

May I suggest three “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate”?

1)   No one is entitled to belittle the theories of others regardless of their nature.
2)   Language that would generally be viewed as unacceptable in public or church is to be viewed as unacceptable on the Forum.
3)   Vigorous debate is to be encouraged but should not be interpreted as a license to demean, belittle, badger, condescend or in any other manner verbally impugn the thoughts, ideas or theories of others on a personal level.

Regardless of whether these “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate” are adopted on a formal level, I will adopt them on a personal level. Meaning:

1)   I agree to abide by them when dealing with others.
2)   I will not respond to those who violate these rules when dealing with me.

All the best. Cheers!

Forums usually dont work when there is a moral director who also happens to have a large vested interest in the outcome of things.

It doesnt work in the classroom either!

But maybe this is less like a classroom than a private social club? If this is someone's private social club we need to know! I wish you hadn't brought it up. But since you have, that is my thought.   :( 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5202 on: August 12, 2018, 08:50:40 AM »
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I feel sorry for Shutter. Yet again he is put in the uncomfortable position of having to referee a mindless conflict. It is at once embarrassing and unnecessary. I have actually had people private message me their comments because they didn’t want to subject themselves to criticism consistent with that used by trolls. Enough is enough.

May I suggest three “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate”?

1)   No one is entitled to belittle the theories of others regardless of their nature.
2)   Language that would generally be viewed as unacceptable in public or church is to be viewed as unacceptable on the Forum.
3)   Vigorous debate is to be encouraged but should not be interpreted as a license to demean, belittle, badger, condescend or in any other manner verbally impugn the thoughts, ideas or theories of others on a personal level.

Regardless of whether these “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate” are adopted on a formal level, I will adopt them on a personal level. Meaning:

1)   I agree to abide by them when dealing with others.
2)   I will not respond to those who violate these rules when dealing with me.

All the best. Cheers!

Forums usually dont work when there is a moral director who also happens to have a large vested interest in the outcome of things.

It doesnt work in the classroom either!

But maybe this is less like a classroom than a private social club? If this is someone's private social club we need to know! I wish you hadn't brought it up. But since you have, that is my thought.   :(

It just seems to me that without some basic guidelines chaos eventually breaks out. Ultimately that inhibits free expression. Even Congress abides by Robert's Rules.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5203 on: August 12, 2018, 10:21:11 AM »
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I feel sorry for Shutter. Yet again he is put in the uncomfortable position of having to referee a mindless conflict. It is at once embarrassing and unnecessary. I have actually had people private message me their comments because they didn’t want to subject themselves to criticism consistent with that used by trolls. Enough is enough.

May I suggest three “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate”?

1)   No one is entitled to belittle the theories of others regardless of their nature.
2)   Language that would generally be viewed as unacceptable in public or church is to be viewed as unacceptable on the Forum.
3)   Vigorous debate is to be encouraged but should not be interpreted as a license to demean, belittle, badger, condescend or in any other manner verbally impugn the thoughts, ideas or theories of others on a personal level.

Regardless of whether these “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate” are adopted on a formal level, I will adopt them on a personal level. Meaning:

1)   I agree to abide by them when dealing with others.
2)   I will not respond to those who violate these rules when dealing with me.

All the best. Cheers!

Forums usually dont work when there is a moral director who also happens to have a large vested interest in the outcome of things.

It doesnt work in the classroom either!

But maybe this is less like a classroom than a private social club? If this is someone's private social club we need to know! I wish you hadn't brought it up. But since you have, that is my thought.   :(

It just seems to me that without some basic guidelines chaos eventually breaks out. Ultimately that inhibits free expression. Even Congress abides by Robert's Rules.

Of course.

Enough said!

 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5204 on: August 12, 2018, 05:54:18 PM »
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I feel sorry for Shutter. Yet again he is put in the uncomfortable position of having to referee a mindless conflict. It is at once embarrassing and unnecessary. I have actually had people private message me their comments because they didn’t want to subject themselves to criticism consistent with that used by trolls. Enough is enough.

May I suggest three “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate”?

1)   No one is entitled to belittle the theories of others regardless of their nature.
2)   Language that would generally be viewed as unacceptable in public or church is to be viewed as unacceptable on the Forum.
3)   Vigorous debate is to be encouraged but should not be interpreted as a license to demean, belittle, badger, condescend or in any other manner verbally impugn the thoughts, ideas or theories of others on a personal level.

Regardless of whether these “Basic Rules of Decency & Debate” are adopted on a formal level, I will adopt them on a personal level. Meaning:

1)   I agree to abide by them when dealing with others.
2)   I will not respond to those who violate these rules when dealing with me.

All the best. Cheers!

Forums usually dont work when there is a moral director who also happens to have a large vested interest in the outcome of things.

It doesnt work in the classroom either!

But maybe this is less like a classroom than a private social club? If this is someone's private social club we need to know! I wish you hadn't brought it up. But since you have, that is my thought.   :(

It just seems to me that without some basic guidelines chaos eventually breaks out. Ultimately that inhibits free expression. Even Congress abides by Robert's Rules.

Of course.

Enough said!



Uh hum, EU, I think this has already been taken care of.  We have a moderator, his name is Shutter, he has already got all of this taken care of.  You're not a control freak or anything like that, are you, EU?  We already have somebody in charge.  Thanks anyway.

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