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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6195 on: August 14, 2019, 09:15:51 PM »
As mentioned before. this would be required if you have a theory or present something that changes the case. then a name would be a proper thing to present. has anyone went after Snowmman or Flyjack, unsurelock etc. it's a standard that doesn't fit every case.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6196 on: August 16, 2019, 02:10:12 PM »
What happened to Dropzone?

Either they created a firewall to the whole site, took the Cooper thread down, or ................... ?

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its still there and open to the public - just have to get there by a different path.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6197 on: August 17, 2019, 12:09:52 PM »
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What happened to Dropzone?

Either they created a firewall to the whole site, took the Cooper thread down, or ................... ?

SOLVED:

its still there and open to the public - just have to get there by a different path.


The site appears to of had issues with the server. it was giving me a timeout 504 error I believe.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6198 on: August 17, 2019, 01:08:03 PM »
FYI, the sports thread is a goner....
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6199 on: August 18, 2019, 12:07:08 PM »
Speaking of reading things?

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if you wish to continue this please go to an off topic thread.

It's your opinion and yours alone to feel you can speak for me. being "me" I can respond with a negative about any "agenda". I do feel you strongly oppose most of the known evidence. that's what started all of this. nothing surrounding a "agenda" in my eye's. 

The actual ground search was set up on the 26th. I believe weather was a huge factor. I'm going to disagree with certain statements surround certain events in this case given the fact of the large amount of evidence that is sometimes confusing and conflicting. I stand my ground on believing a possible area could be found. you both disagreed strongly just as much. no agenda either way. I've never stated things as a matter of fact beyond a reasonable doubt. that's for a court system. I find it odd that radar operator's in Portland are dismissed along with pilot statements. one is a major factor and an important roll in the whole case, the pilots. what is said years later also conflicts with statements shortly after the landing in Reno. I'm going to challenge anything related to the known evidence until it is proven inaccurate. I don't see any "research" into the statements made by the crew and location. I've seen some explanations on radar operator's in Portland and feel those are not valid. I don't see validation at this moment and time so I will use this information to challenge statements made against the known evidence. that's my agenda.

You stated being frustrated or upset? try doing this for over 5 years. I'm also tired of the accusations...when I can't challenge things without accusations flying I think it's time to move on.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6200 on: August 19, 2019, 06:27:00 PM »
The updated CooperCon 2019 website is online at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

There is still quite a bit of info yet to be added including hotel, brewpub, T-shirts, etc, so check back regularly.

Cheers!
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6201 on: August 19, 2019, 10:58:31 PM »
Here's a link to my piece on CooperCon 2019 at the Mountain News-WA.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6202 on: August 20, 2019, 04:36:43 PM »
DB Cooper Road Tour

I'm in the early stages of planning a road tour to conclude the CooperCon 2019 festivities for those not on the boat tour or in the Cooper Escape Room. Here are some of the details:


Come see the highlights of the FBI’s “official” flight path for DB Cooper’s getaway flight, as we follow State Route 503 from Vancouver to Amboy, WA.

The Bureau has traditionally characterized the Victor-23 airway as the flight path for Flight 305 when it left Sea-Tac airport. At 8:13 pm, DB Cooper jumped from his aircraft, according to the First Officer Bill Rataczak, the pilot who was actually flying the plane. This flight path generally leads southwards from Seattle, slightly east of the I-5. But where on V-23 was 305 when Cooper jumped? This piece of information is critical since it determines where Cooper landed - his LZ (Landing Zone).

Initially, the FBI concluded that 305 was slightly east-north-east of La Conner, WA, which would put Cooper’s LZ north of the Lewis River near Ariel, WA due to prevailing winds and his drift.

But then the FBI determined that Cooper jumped a minute or so later, over Battleground, WA, and drifted northeasterly to the Amboy, south of Ariel. That is where the ground search first began on Friday, November 26, 1971, with primary elements from the Clark County Sheriff’s Department, led by Under Sheriff Tom McDowell.

But the FBI changed their perspective in 1975 after a regional conference of top brass and decided that 305 was further south, near Orchards, on the outskirts of Vancouver, which put Cooper’s LZ in the Hockinson area, several miles south of Amboy.

As it turns out, SR 503 starts in Vancouver, runs through Orchards, passes through Hockinson on its way to Amboy, which is just due south of Ariel. Hence, this road tour will recapitulate the three LZs the FBI claimed were potential LZs.

We will convoy in private cars, leaving from Vancouver in the early afternoon – approximately 1 pm on Sunday, November 24th - and take two hours to view the hot spots including the Ariel Tavern, the Merwin Dam and its campground where 200 US Army troops bivouacked in March and April 1972 for their ground search. Further, we will survey the woodlands along Cedar Creek Road in Amboy where the first “boots of the ground” went looking for Cooper.

Our tour will conclude on a property owned by DB Cooper aficionado Bernice R. (tentatively) who lives in the area and was present for the initial ground search. Her property was subsequently searched by the FBI in the following week when they went house-to-house in Amboy and Ariel looking for Cooper. Bernice’s property is also the site of at least one Travel Channel documentary that explored the Cooper case.

The tour will be led by yours truly, and is free. In addition, participants will be able to leave the tour at any point.
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6203 on: August 20, 2019, 11:26:28 PM »
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DB Cooper Road Tour

I'm in the early stages of planning a road tour to conclude the CooperCon 2019 festivities for those not on the boat tour or in the Cooper Escape Room. Here are some of the details:


Come see the highlights of the FBI’s “official” flight path for DB Cooper’s getaway flight, as we follow State Route 503 from Vancouver to Amboy, WA.

The Bureau has traditionally characterized the Victor-23 airway as the flight path for Flight 305 when it left Sea-Tac airport. At 8:13 pm, DB Cooper jumped from his aircraft, according to the First Officer Bill Rataczak, the pilot who was actually flying the plane. This flight path generally leads southwards from Seattle, slightly east of the I-5. But where on V-23 was 305 when Cooper jumped? This piece of information is critical since it determines where Cooper landed - his LZ (Landing Zone).

Initially, the FBI concluded that 305 was slightly east-north-east of La Conner, WA, which would put Cooper’s LZ north of the Lewis River near Ariel, WA due to prevailing winds and his drift.

But then the FBI determined that Cooper jumped a minute or so later, over Battleground, WA, and drifted northeasterly to the Amboy, south of Ariel. That is where the ground search first began on Friday, November 26, 1971, with primary elements from the Clark County Sheriff’s Department, led by Under Sheriff Tom McDowell.

But the FBI changed their perspective in 1975 after a regional conference of top brass and decided that 305 was further south, near Orchards, on the outskirts of Vancouver, which put Cooper’s LZ in the Hockinson area, several miles south of Amboy.

As it turns out, SR 503 starts in Vancouver, runs through Orchards, passes through Hockinson on its way to Amboy, which is just due south of Ariel. Hence, this road tour will recapitulate the three LZs the FBI claimed were potential LZs.

We will convoy in private cars, leaving from Vancouver in the early afternoon – approximately 1 pm on Sunday, November 24th - and take two hours to view the hot spots including the Ariel Tavern, the Merwin Dam and its campground where 200 US Army troops bivouacked in March and April 1972 for their ground search. Further, we will survey the woodlands along Cedar Creek Road in Amboy where the first “boots of the ground” went looking for Cooper.

Our tour will conclude on a property owned by DB Cooper aficionado Bernice R. (tentatively) who lives in the area and was present for the initial ground search. Her property was subsequently searched by the FBI in the following week when they went house-to-house in Amboy and Ariel looking for Cooper. Bernice’s property is also the site of at least one Travel Channel documentary that explored the Cooper case.

The tour will be led by yours truly, and is free. In addition, participants will be able to leave the tour at any point.

sounds like a nice tour!
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6204 on: August 21, 2019, 04:21:18 AM »
Thanks, G. I should be fun.
You coming?
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6205 on: August 23, 2019, 08:45:03 PM »
Army Tigers Parachute Team Near-Tragedy

I just saw a video of a member of the Army Tigers demo team descending horizontally at a very high rate of speed, risking death. How did that happen? His rectangular chute was still inflated, but the diver and his chute circled each other in a rapid fashion. Bizarre.

Can anyone explain? 377?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6206 on: August 25, 2019, 12:13:29 AM »
Off topic but worth sharing for a little spiritual relief. Sit back and relax. Take a load off!

Ennio Morricone - The Mission Main Theme (Morricone Conducts Morricone)

The Vision & The Mission.  Enjoy.




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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6207 on: August 25, 2019, 02:10:22 AM »
Road Tour Update

Kermit suggests La Casa Tapatico as the place to dine upon the conclusion of the road tour, adding:

If you’re going to be at the Ariel Store on your Tour, I might suggest ending it in Woodland at this awesome Mexican restaurant! The owner, cook, server and sometimes bartender’s name is Jose. I can give him a jingle and he’d take good care of your group. Just a thought as it’s right off of I-5 on ramp and quickest way back to your Vancouver start area I would guess!

 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #6208 on: August 25, 2019, 02:18:17 AM »
Sweet piece, Georger. Thank you.
 

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« Reply #6209 on: August 25, 2019, 02:28:18 AM »
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Sweet piece, Georger. Thank you.

old but nice - Remember the old movie The Mission? Spaniards go to Brazil (I think) looking for gold and to colonise the natives ... whole thing backfires. Monday G8 is going to meet to try and get fires stopped in Brazil!