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« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2017, 10:56:02 PM »
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interesting: flint rod with 50% cerium...wonder if it could be Ferrocerium...from cigarette lighter (flint)?

Survival tool fire starter with mischmetal flint rod
Patent number: 8186995
Abstract: A fire-starter device for survival or emergency use has a handle portion and case portion that twist together, to sheath a mischmetal flint rod inside the case, and a seal ring protects the flint rod from environmental moisture. The case has a steel strike plate and a guide channel. The mischmetal flint rod favorably has a composition of cerium—50%, lanthanum—26%, magnesium—10%, praseodymium—3%, neodymium—1%, and iron—10%.

also:
Ferrocerium is a man-made metallic material that produces hot sparks at temperatures of about 3,000 °C (5,430 °F) when scraped against a rough surface (pyrophoricity), such as ridged steel. Because of this property it is used in many applications, such as clockwork toys, strikers for gas welding and cutting torches, so-called "flint-and-steel" or "flint spark lighter" fire-starters in emergency survival kits and cigarette lighters, as the initial ignition source for the primary fuel.[1] It is also commonly called ferro rod and most commonly of all, flint (particularly in cigarette lighters).

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« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2017, 10:58:58 PM »
t is also known in Europe as Auermetall after its inventor Baron Carl Auer von Welsbach. Three different Auermetalls were developed: the first was iron and cerium, the second also included lanthanum to produce brighter sparks, and the third added other heavy metals. In the Baron von Welsbach's first alloy, 30% iron (ferrum) was added to purified cerium, hence the name "ferro-cerium". Iron reacts with rare earth metals to form hard intermetallic compounds similar to those in neodymium magnets; such magnets are known to generate sparks when broken[citation needed].

A modern ferrocerium firesteel product is composed of an alloy of rare earth metals called mischmetal (containing approximately 50% cerium, 25% lanthanum, and small amounts of praseodymium and neodymium), plus iron and a small amount of magnesium.[2] A variety of other components are added to modify the spark and processing characteristics.[1] Most contemporary flints are hardened with 20% iron oxide and 2% magnesium oxid
 

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« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2017, 11:05:13 PM »
Is red phosphor, and red phosphrous one and the same?
 

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« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2017, 11:26:20 PM »
Tom has closed his particle website You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login    !!!  :-\ ????

I went there to look at the format Tom is using for his particles list and any clarification about the McCrone tests only to find his website closed.
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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2017, 11:31:50 PM »
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This must have been within the hour. I was just there....
 

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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2017, 12:21:33 AM »
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When I got a call from my mother tonight about Chris Ingall's report on Tom and the metals, I knew I had to write about it. See the Mountain News:

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Nice mention of Peterson and Sailshaw, both pivotal to this matter and the DB Cooper case!  :))

Now, is Gray sitting on the Cooper DNA report and other FBI lab analysis of the Cooper tie; he hasnt disclosed yet?
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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2017, 02:15:28 AM »
Not sure what GG is doing. I doubt that he has had any access to any DNA reports.

Along those lines, GG's involvement with the FBI and their documents is circa 2009, mostly as far as I can tell. I don't think he has had much, if any, access since then. If so, he hasn't written about it, other than a few things on Cossey in 2013 after the murder.
 

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« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2017, 08:42:20 AM »
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Not sure what GG is doing. I doubt that he has had any access to any DNA reports.

Along those lines, GG's involvement with the FBI and their documents is circa 2009, mostly as far as I can tell. I don't think he has had much, if any, access since then. If so, he hasn't written about it, other than a few things on Cossey in 2013 after the murder.

I'm wondering if they came from the same source I received my files from? these were 4 individuals, one was on this forum several years ago, and the other was Reichenbach. I don't know who the other two are, they never told me. I was told how they obtained them, but have doubts to the truth behind there statements. I told them I wouldn't reveal this information. the files I received are from Las Vegas, and Gray's are marked being from Seattle.

He hasn't responded to my emails lately, sometimes he's chatty, and then stops for no apparent reason.
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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2017, 09:22:42 AM »
Manufacturing CRT tubes to Boeing employee almost overnight...

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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2017, 09:42:09 AM »
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I say:  DB might have been just having fun breaking a CRT from an old TV to be sent to the dump and the particles on the inside of the CRT floated to his tie. That is not how we discarded CRT's at Boeing we had a proper safe procedure.

My grandfather use to work on televisions. he would break off the back of the tube prior to dumping them in the garbage. it was the only way the garbage men would pick them up.
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« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2017, 01:26:03 PM »
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I say:  DB might have been just having fun breaking a CRT from an old TV to be sent to the dump and the particles on the inside of the CRT floated to his tie. That is not how we discarded CRT's at Boeing we had a proper safe procedure.

My grandfather use to work on televisions. he would break off the back of the tube prior to dumping them in the garbage. it was the only way the garbage men would pick them up.

The reason for that was so they wouldn't accidentally explode/implode. It was the recommended handling practice; like taking the doors off refrigerators so kids wouldnt get trapped and suffocate and other safety measures ...  all recommended by various institutes of public safety, manufacturer safety standards, and govt back in the day.     
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« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2017, 01:35:41 PM »
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Manufacturing CRT tubes to Boeing employee almost overnight...

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A star is born. "Cooper CRT" on the Chicago Channel.

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« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2017, 02:39:18 PM »
The Mountain News is jumpin' this morning. One commentator suggested that the Rare Earth Metals could come from X-Ray and other medical equipment. His words:

"The rare earth elements that you refer to were, at the time, being introduced in to medical imaging.  They were used in X-ray film, fluorescing screens, image intensifiers, and other products." 
 

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« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2017, 02:40:20 PM »
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I'm wondering if they came from the same source I received my files from? these were 4 individuals, one was on this forum several years ago, and the other was Reichenbach. I don't know who the other two are, they never told me. I was told how they obtained them, but have doubts to the truth behind there statements. I told them I wouldn't reveal this information. the files I received are from Las Vegas, and Gray's are marked being from Seattle.

He hasn't responded to my emails lately, sometimes he's chatty, and then stops for no apparent reason.


That's my Geoffrey!
 

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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2017, 03:03:28 PM »
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The Mountain News is jumpin' this morning. One commentator suggested that the Rare Earth Metals could come from X-Ray and other medical equipment. His words:

"The rare earth elements that you refer to were, at the time, being introduced in to medical imaging.  They were used in X-ray film, fluorescing screens, image intensifiers, and other products."

So? Personal exposure opportunities range all the way from processing to manufacturing to recycling. Pick the pony you will ride bareback!

Keep in mind these are atomic elements - not molecular. Tom made sure to specify that. So we are missing information that may be on that tie.

Am I correct in assuming that Tom is the first to ever inspect that tie in a lab in 40+ years? Where was the FBI? How do you search for somebody if you don't even know what to search for? Whose on first?