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Offline Bruce A. Smith

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5940 on: March 23, 2019, 09:26:57 PM »
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Update to Georger at Forum:

"True, Tosaw's theories evolved over time.

"His earlier theory was that Cooper's money was deposited by dredging activity near T-Bar.  But he later rejected that theory after he consulted the Corps and talked with actual dredge operators.  The money, if dredged up, would have been pulverized by the venturi action of the dredge.  He dropped that first theory and became convinced that the money was disgorged from the river bottom and made it's way to the surface shoreline by spring high water levels. 

"He  spent most of his time with his diving crew searching for Cooper's body and parachute upriver of Caterpiller Island and just to the north of Fazio's property line.  He concentrated his efforts on the several wingdams on the WA side of those locations. He employed a Portland-based tug and barge company and had three professional divers equipped with radio communications and underwater videos. 

"KING 5 loved it and sent a mobile van down to Portland to film him.  Tosaw loved the coverage.  Chris Ingles, who was reporting for 5, wasn't sure if Tosaw was a genius or on his way to the dementia ward."

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5941 on: March 24, 2019, 12:09:20 AM »
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More Tosaw, from Galen

Update to Georger at Forum:

"True, Tosaw's theories evolved over time.

"His earlier theory was that Cooper's money was deposited by dredging activity near T-Bar.  But he later rejected that theory after he consulted the Corps and talked with actual dredge operators.  The money, if dredged up, would have been pulverized by the venturi action of the dredge.  He dropped that first theory and became convinced that the money was disgorged from the river bottom and made it's way to the surface shoreline by spring high water levels. 

"He  spent most of his time with his diving crew searching for Cooper's body and parachute upriver of Caterpiller Island and just to the north of Fazio's property line.  He concentrated his efforts on the several wingdams on the WA side of those locations. He employed a Portland-based tug and barge company and had three professional divers equipped with radio communications and underwater videos. 

"KING 5 loved it and sent a mobile van down to Portland to film him.  Tosaw loved the coverage.  Chris Ingles, who was reporting for 5, wasn't sure if Tosaw was a genius or on his way to the dementia ward."

GC

Your post saves me some time!

/The money, if dredged up, would have been pulverized by the venturi action of the dredge.  He dropped that first theory and became convinced that the money was disgorged from the river bottom and made it's way to the surface shoreline by spring high water levels. /

And just maybe he was correct the first time? " if dredged up, would have been pulverized by the venturi action of the dredge." That may be exactly what happened.

We have never talked about the special nature of Columbia sand before. Of equal importance in a dredging scenario is the sand. We actually delivered some of this sand to the lab this week - results in several weeks. One of the first things already noted is the abrasive nature of this 'basaltic-volcanic' sand vs. other types of beach sand which have softer grains with a higher silica content. One lab guy already commented: 'This stuff would be good in sand blasting!' Basaltic-volcanic' sand is very abrasive. We will run a test on money paper but I can already predict the results vs ordinary silica sand.

As a rule, bundles of bills dont float. Nor are they bounced along on the bottom by flow ... to wind up 40ft up the side of a beach from the shoreline! Flow might roll them down a beach once they had entered somewhere south of the Ingram find location.  We believe a more positive (higher probability) mechanism is required vs any flow scenario.  Bundles of money arent carried along by water like logs and floating sheets of paper !

Tosaw always seems to operate on his own - he wasnt known for taking advice. He rejected advice given from salvage operators who have a lifetime of experience with the Columbia?

But the sand may be one of keys to the TBar money story. Look at the bills.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5942 on: March 24, 2019, 10:55:27 AM »
Regarding the dredge theory:

1) The picture below is from September 6, 1974. The 1974 dredge is clearly visible.

2) The yellow dot is Tom Kaye's identified money find spot at 45.717888 N, 122.759500 W. This spot is about 150 feet from edge of the dredge spoil spread. (This money find spot is incorrect).

3) The white dot is my identified money find spot at 45.718588 N, 122.759453 W. This spot is 260 feet north of Tom Kaye's spot and 400 feet from the edge of the dredge spoil spread. (This money find spot is correct within 10 feet).
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #5943 on: March 24, 2019, 12:07:17 PM »
post in the right category. I'm trying to move everything so please wait until it's moved.
 
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