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The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« on: September 01, 2020, 06:43:06 AM »
Bryan Woodruff was a good man anyway you look at this. I enjoyed his updates surrounding the Ariel store. I believe we all kind of knew Bryan was in over his head and the outlook was grim for it to reopen. he voiced out often about Mr. Blevins. I have several emails he included with Robert not understanding why Bryan turned on him. it had nothing to do with me or this forum. Robert failed to understand his mother had just died that he cared for and loved very much. Bryan's goal was to continue in his mother's footsteps.

When dealing with someone who lost a family member a high level of respect is required when dealing with them. Robert's intentions were good at the start but he quickly took advantage of the situation. he created a memorial page in reference to the cause and filled it up with rants such as you commonly see on the DZ. a jab here and there could be considered plausible but this was constant. again, on a memorial page. the actual cause was soon forgotten and filled with comments of Robert being in charge and it's his way or the highway..he banned the entire forum at one point. then made demands to Bryan that "Bruce was to be punished" making threats to Bruce he would be "physically removed" if he showed up. Robert failed to understand the party was to be in remembrance of Bryan's mother. Robert insisted it was going to be like woodstock which Bryan took as offensive to the store and his mother's legacy.

Robert was going around the store showing people how he intruded into my forum using a proxy or VPN to get around the ban of viewing my forum. we were the topic of the whole benefit vs the actual cause. he was so focused in getting us removed completely to complete his mission. more negative affects starting taking place with Bryan and his family surrounding Robert's actions. some thought he was the owner. it wasn't just the memorial page but he filled one of his many forums up with the same, including articles. He would constantly post the fact of Bruce not being welcome by a decision made by Robert and Bryan. that apparently wasn't true either according to Bryan. he said he thought it would be best to defuse the problem vs actually not allowing him to attend. this is typical of how Robert will twist things to his advantage.

Bryan apparently had enough and voice out on Roberts forum telling him who the owner was and who was in charge. Bryan made the decision to cut all ties with Robert once the party event was over. Robert continued to harass Bryan with the usual rapid emails calling Bryan "the biggest phony ever" multiple times. even stating he hopes it never opens. then two years later starts contacting Bryan again claiming someone wants to invest in the store. insisting he takes an offer of 51%. this angered Bryan further because he told me if they wanted to reach out to him he surely wouldn't want it done through Robert or why didn't Robert suggest the guy reach out to Bryan personally?. Bryan wasn't prepared to just sign away the legacy that's been in the family for decades. what reason would Robert need to be involved?

Bryan wasn't perfect by no means..his battle with alcohol was ongoing. he should of controlled Robert differently but it is what it is..I contacted Bryan very early into this and he responded with anger and screaming in full caps the entire email. I responded back and left it at that until he contacted me at a later point with a apology which I firmly accepted and out friendship was born. his main goal was his mother and that store. he wanted her remembered and that's why I made the video for him.

Now, he writes he already knew Bryan passed away and said nothing and then puts him up on a pedestal praising him as a good person..why wasn't the article written when you first found out. you already knew before Saturday and yet made the article several hours after the first post. it's pretty obvious you read it off my forum..why would you hold something like that back you went out of your way to make an article for?

I've included portions of emails from Bryan and after looking through them I was pretty accurate with my writing above..

2019
Personally I have absolutely nothing good to say about Blevins from my own first hand experiences in dealing with his self-serving attitude and agenda. He deserves absolutely no respect from anyone.

2018
All attempts by Blevins to insist that I sell 51% of this property or business to an unnamed businessman have been soundly and permanently rejected as I'm not interested in selling period. Nor will I allow him to post any article or story written by him to the Dona's Ariel Store Pub facebook page.

.2017
Since 1974 only Blevins has ever compared the annual D B Cooper Party as being a Woodstock type of event, it never has been nor will it ever be.  The 2016 party was held in memory and honor of my Mother's life and legacy, it takes a heartless piece of shit to compare a memorial party to Woodstock by anyone, and it is disrespectful as all hell.

 2017
My sincere and heart felt apologies to you all for ever believing Blevins lies.  I can guarantee you all Robert Blevins will never step foot in this building ever again as a result of his own lies, actions, and words not only towards myself but others as well.

 2016
Robert's postings on the Ariel page and my own page alienated a lot of my family, pretty much used both to attack others, and Mom's side of my family no longer acknowledge anything I post.

The evening prior to the BBQ, Robert had your forum showing on his computer and was trying to get others to view it.  Robert demanded Bruce not be allowed here, so to keep the peace while the travel channel was here the next day I asked him to have Meyer not bring Bruce to the Party just so there would be no problems between Bruce and Robert. 

Obviously Robert didn't get my hint when I told him not to involve Ariel Store, Mom, or me in his dispute with you all.  Everything about Ariel Store doesn't go thru Robert he's not the owner, I am, but he sure does act like he does at times which has been noticed.   Karma will get him, what goes around comes around.  Robert was told to back off, and remove his posting in regards to you all from the Ariel Store face book page.

2016 Robert was included in this email.
Mr. Blevins, I as owner of the property in which Ariel Store resides do not appreciate your putting the store or myself in the middle of the disputes between yourself and others

I didn't need any help deciding to unfriend Robert on face book, I have personally observed many things myself since April. The power of observation can reveal many things about others, in reflection of these observations by various means I do feel perhaps its in my own best interest to ban Robert, not Bruce.  Lesson over for now Robert.

This was just a few of Bryan's thoughts that surround Robert. I have too many to post and believe this is enough to tell the story. he failed once again to take his very own advice with "allowing emotions to get in the way" Bryan sent most of these emails on his behalf and were not from replies to me..

I realize this "drama" gets old but Bryan can no longer speak for himself so I used his quotes to speak his mind...
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2020, 09:20:02 AM »
It's not about how much money you spent Robert,.it's your actions that Bryan didn't like. you made it personal and used him and the store. you failed to understand all the bad you did during this event. you do similar actions on the DZ by constantly going off topic and bring up the same old crap over and over. that's not Facebook or a site owned by you. people complain, including the Mod and you just continue on like nothing was said. 

Bryan made up his own mind. it's very simple to see reading through all the emails over the years. he didn't like you, at all. regardless to what you believe you did. it was his store and his to do as he pleased. he decided you were not going to be a part of it for reasons explained. I didn't even get into the fact of you going on his Ariel page trying to tell him the Cooper party has been moved from Ariel to Portland trying to rub it in..I have the screenshot he took. this was in Feb. of 2019...that was very clear you were trying to get back at him with that comment..the event you spoke of never happened and wasn't even set yet but didn't stop you from using it as a tool to get back at Bryan..

Correct, Robert...I wasn't there. you know who was....BRYAN WOODRUFF....
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 10:03:32 AM »
One thing is certain from my observation here. Bryan was a kind and thoughtful person who deeply loved his Mom !
I’d hope this page be devoted to Dona and Bryan’s legacy regarding the intricate part it played in the D B Cooper saga. I briefly met his Sister and she indeed seems like a very friendly person. Let’s hope that some of the many memories that flourished over the years at the Ariel Store are not forgotten! RIP to a great guy !
 
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2020, 01:14:57 PM »
A proper page will be created on the website minus the drama and what Bryan went through with the above mentioned..The memory of them and what they did for the community is what's really important..
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2020, 06:41:00 PM »
Robert, the evidence is very clear what you did in Ariel was wrong..you continued kicking Bryan further by going on his Ariel page years later claiming the "Ariel party" was being moved to Portland. you fed off our emotions about Bryan then posted an article which should of been done prior since you made claim you knew he was dead and said nothing. your actions are disgraceful. you disgraced a memorial page to Bryan's mother. you disgraced her legacy further by calling her memorial party "woodstock" these are actions by your dumbass doings, not mine. Bryan didn't need any help to decide. you lied about Bruce being banned. you lied about a lot of things. you had a mission and should of stuck to it. remember what you always claim..."it doesn't bother me in the least" and yet you put Bryan & Dona in the middle of those things that never bother you. more lies again...disgraceful, period.   

Newsflash, a memorial page is a matter of respect to one's lose. NOTHING but that person's life should be on said memorial page, period! same for a memorial party which is in poor taste referring it to woodstock. it's YOU that got wrapped up making it personal and forgetting the actual cause. I wasn't there. you were and it's clearly evident from the debris field...

The property is for sale. where is the die hard rich Cooper fan and the high figures you often toss out to help keep the legacy alive? go 50/50 and lease the building. should I start shaming you into this? what do you say, Robert. you going to do the right thing? would it interrupt daytime sleepy from a hard night gossiping and scanning the internet for the next mud sling topic to post you believe should stop? it's all very, very tiring..you post sometimes minutes after something is posted from different forums or sites..

The only person who "managed to turn Bryan" was Bryan. he was not coached into anything. the email I sent him in the beginning was replied to me in all caps full of anger and I replied back and that was the end of the whole thing until he reconnected with me and Bruce months later. stop LYING further for your own mistakes. you have been caught lying about the conference and now this..it's getting more transparent with the lies..

"Obviously Robert didn't get my hint when I told him not to involve Ariel Store, Mom, or me in his dispute with you all."

2016 Robert was included in this email.
Mr. Blevins, I as owner of the property in which Ariel Store resides do not appreciate your putting the store or myself in the middle of the disputes between yourself and others.

It so easy even a caveman can understand this....Deal with your mistakes and stop blaming others for your own actions..

Update: you are lying again by stating for the, at least 50th time of removing the shortcut to this forum and no longer reading off it or other sites..you have got to be the BIGGEST 65 year old baby on the internet. it's pathetic..
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2020, 12:09:25 PM »
Quick update on Ariel Tavern. I hadn’t been by there since my wife and I drove by and saw lots of activity going on. We stopped and briefly talked to Joni who is Bryan’s Sister. She sadly informed us of Bryan’s passing.
Yesterday I had business in the Woodland area so I ventured the short trip to the Ariel Tavern. This time I found the place hauntingly abandoned looking and obviously uninhabited. I took a few photos and left a note on clipboard. I fear the glory days of gatherings at Ariel are in our past. What did surprise me was Joni seemed quick to ask me if I was interested in buying the place a few months ago but yesterday there were no for sale signs present. Bryan had showed me through the place about 2 years ago and I observed the condition of the building. I recall telling Meyer that it would cost at least $100,000 to get this place up to present day standards.
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2020, 10:12:05 PM »
It's hard to say if they put it on the market yet. I miss his updates and pictures he used to send. he missed his mother so much. I hope he found her and has peace..
 
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2020, 07:11:33 AM »
So is there anything planned for the 50th anniversary, assuming this crime is not solved by next Thanksgiving? 
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2020, 08:09:15 AM »
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So is there anything planned for the 50th anniversary, assuming this crime is not solved by next Thanksgiving?

Yes, new owners have purchased the property and apparently will be having a party for the 50th anniversary. this could be the bash of the century marking DB Cooper and honoring Bryan Woodruff and his mothers legacy. this would be something I would attend.
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2020, 09:04:02 AM »
Eric Ulis holds a convention every year (CooperCon) and will probably have a lot of key people speaking at the event. this year was cancelled due to Covid.
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2020, 04:43:45 PM »
I would love to see a reunion of the flight crew of 305 at the 50th. Tina was looking downright sociable in the HBO docu. Opened the show, in fact!

Plus, I would love to see a panel discussion with FBI agents, such as Bob Fuhriman, who was in the HBO docu. A few other agents who were involved in Norjak are also still with us - George Grotz, Paul Tillis, Ron Nichols.

And how about Mary Jean Fryar? Larry Carr? Curtis Eng?
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2020, 06:57:04 PM »
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This is a deliberate untruth. Shutter is well aware that Eric Ulis dumped his CooperCon website, and hasn't posted to Shutter's site much ever since the airing of the TV show.

Mr. Blevins. it's hard to buy stock in something YOU own.

Eric is very much alive and involved. it's just not online. the site you are whining about is an OLD site that was taken over. the only "untruth" is the constant bullshit coming out of your keyboard with yet again, another wild assumption with typical personal attacks to boot. it's amazing how much bullshit you can make up at once to gossip about.

CooperCon WILL carry on next year as mentioned months ago. it will not change, it will not be cancelled, opened, cancelled and opened again, like you typically do. no reason to start "promoting" either.

Shutter, is well aware the site was dropped long ago and merged to his main site. something you probably never took the time to look at.

Interesting that Minnow productions "bypassed" you after putting them up on a pedestal for over a year. maybe they read all the crap you spew everyday? Bruce made it, Eric made it. two people you gossip about.

Since you are so interested in Eric and what he does. he logged in last week. do you need to know what he ate yesterday. you might be able to "assume" more out that too?
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2020, 01:26:06 AM »
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Now....IF....(and I mean IF)...both the owners of the store and the general Cooperland community would be in support of AB of Seattle hosting another OUTDOOR party down in Ariel, I already know how to pull that off. But I'm not changing our current plan unless BOTH the owners of the property AND Cooperland show full support for such a thing. No more backbiting, no more nasty posts about our efforts at Shutter's place...NONE of that again. I won't have it.

Robert, you don't belong there. it's disrespectful to Bryan and his mother. The truth is very simple and Bryan voiced out plenty as seen above in this thread. the bad out weighed the good by far. the cause became secondary similar to what you do on Dropzone. I've already spoken to Eric about this as well as others. a whole year is ahead of this. I don't look at any event as "competition"  the word has already spread pretty fast and you didn't have a clue because you get caught up in bad assumptions and gossip. Ariel events were always big.

Yes, I will be contacting them. Bryan (RIP) would want me to do just that!

I thought you filled most of the slots and were going to have another Woodstock? dozens of emails and interest. you just going to blow them off or point them all over Washington for the next six months? 

What happened to California. the big move next year. did you forget?
 

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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2020, 11:16:51 AM »
Mr. Blevins, I'm glad you came to your senses about Ariel. It's about time you did something right.

When you make "public" announcements about your private affairs it's hardly an intrusion. using a proxy is an intrusion. we all know you watch this site and we all know you no longer need a proxy. you can stop the hall monitor alerting you trick :)

You should of done your homework with Eric before spouting off a bunch of nonsense, including trying to discredit me. Eric is doing things you can't imagine that could change the course of the investigation. this has nothing to do with suspects, or the flight path either. you just don't have the contacts to take the case anywhere. you post the same old crap with Kenny and spend the rest of your time gossiping and trying to push other suspects out of the way. you keep getting bypassed. lets face it. Bruce and Eric are plowing over you. step aside.

You don't even read a post right. my comment had nothing to do with your little pioneer event in June. you also got the "untruth" part wrong. that belongs to you.

Based on your response of diversion speaks volumes. your original comment was 100% wrong.

I consider this matter closed.
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Re: The Ariel Conflict. The True Story Of Bryan Woodruff
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2021, 02:45:46 AM »
Lets establish a few things here before we proceed. I'm hardly obsessed when it comes to you Robert Blevins. on occasions I do feel the need to reply to the many posts you make on the DZ. the thread is dead from the "obsession" with the constant off topic posts about things as far back as 2011. people have put you on ignore to get away from your "obsession"  just look at the comments as far back as one can see and the obsession is clearly visible. people have to filter through your obsession.

I don't think it's advisable to constantly go onto that thread to comment about the off topic ramblings you are obsessed with posting half to full pages at a time. 7-8 in a row.. 95% of your comments are repeats or "the same old shit" you decided back in 2014 to join this forum under false pretenses specifically to cause trouble. you paid the price and were perma banned. yes, I did say you would not be welcome before the site started. that's my right. deal with it "for chrissakes"........shift that blame.... :congrats:


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. Only you would take time to create a special webpage with only one goal.

Yes, one page surrounding suspects? at the bottom directs you to all the other suspects. it's not like I made an exclusive page like wordpress or Quora? you have been asked multiple times to correct anything wrong on said page which follows with (crickets). even your book has similar errors you refuse to correct. that's one of Bruce's problems with you speaking as one writer to another. you want to try and express giving it to people straight when your book is full of errors you are fully aware of and refuse to correct. the last lie was fixing the book before the largest ever motion picture was coming out. what's the excuse now? sorry, I also made a thread exposing the emails sent to you Bruce and myself surrounding Ariel where you once again take zero blame and call the owner an alcoholic who doesn't know what he is talking about. shift that blame, again... :congrats:

I spoke with Eric this evening about the "Mississippi incident" you are so far off base it registers on the Richter scale.
It's amazing how you have twisted it into everyone else's fault but your own. what a shock. you need to start a insurance company..."no fault"  again...shift that blame one more time.. :congrats:

I also asked him about the Portland country club. guess what. it was canceled because of your email. that was told directly to Eric. what do you do..shift the blame once again..no responsibility what so ever..as mentioned before, you even lied in the same post by saying they were disgusted with the comments not realizing you just wrote they never responded. you might want to "shift" the story lines a little better so the lies and blame are no no easily seen.  :congrats:
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