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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4935 on: January 15, 2022, 08:42:50 PM »
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Yo, DB Fan. Accepting Richard McCoy as DB Cooper requires one to untangle the FBI conundrum - whom to believe and what evidence to accept.

The Seattle office has what they consider proof that McCoy was in Provo on Thanksgiving Day, 1971; ie: the eye-witness reports that place McCoy at home and his mileage logs, such as those Marty has been referring to.

The Salt Lake City office says, "Nope. He was in Las Vegas and probably transiting to/from Portland," and Calame and Rhodes have a ton of evidence to support that perspective, such as gas receipts and a collect phone call.

To accept McCoy as Cooper, you have to disprove the Seattle's evidence. Can you?

More troubling, can Gryder? As Marty has pointed out, Dan Gryder is grossly under-informed on much of the McCoy evidence. Such a state of affairs makes his touting of McCoy-as-Cooper nearly impossible to believe.

In addition, dodging my phone calls AND dissing Darren puts Gryder, Chante, and Little Rick in a bad light. That's two big strikes against Danny G, and one more assigns him to the trash pile along with RMB and Kenny C.

OK Bruce.  First of all, I am not 100% sold. But lets see what Gryder offers up in part 2?  And also, if you have a way, could you arrange Chante to take a lie detector test?  I would not involve Richards son because that guy looks like he just came out of Leavenworth.  But Chante is the more credible source would you not agree?  See if she will take a lie detector test?  That is a start.  As for the FBI, how can you put any faith in them?  Himmelsdick was just terrible. And he has no evidence that DB Cooper no matter who he was died in the jump.  If it was Richard McCoy, lets not forget, the guy was a GREEN BERET.  Do you think a green beret is going to just crumble?  Ask that to your pal Ulis who has really made a fool of himself lately.  So I would ask you to arrange a lie detector test since you are "connected".  You know, like a mobster.  LOL

Yo, DB Fan - you give me more miraculous powers than I'm entitled to - as I don't have access to a lie detector device. Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect. As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4936 on: January 15, 2022, 11:57:30 PM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4937 on: January 16, 2022, 03:48:14 AM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.

Would you own a car that it took arguing in a mud pit to start?  You will accept and promote this standard in Cooperama!  And probably in other things too . . . like vaccinations for Covid?
 

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« Reply #4938 on: January 16, 2022, 11:34:18 AM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.

Would you own a car that it took arguing in a mud pit to start? 

You should see some of the cars that I have owned!
 
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« Reply #4939 on: January 16, 2022, 03:25:09 PM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.

Would you own a car that it took arguing in a mud pit to start? 

You should see some of the cars that I have owned!

not bragging but a friend and I owned one of these in 1969 ............  we were in med school at the time and dirt poor.  We had fun ...
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4940 on: January 16, 2022, 03:38:01 PM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.

Would you own a car that it took arguing in a mud pit to start? 

You should see some of the cars that I have owned!

not bragging but a friend and I owned one of these in 1969 ............  we were in med school at the time and dirt poor.

1966 was great year...the year I was born!! Myself, I would probably brag about that car. So, what did you and your friend do? Rotate weekends with the car?
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4941 on: January 16, 2022, 05:53:06 PM »
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Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case with many in Cooperville....

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  As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.

I would suggest a mud wrestling pit. EU could double the price of admission.

RMB and me could be the opening act.... I was zooming some new friends at the Seattle UFO Network to discuss alien abductions and guess who showed up on their membership roster - yup. For those interested in the alien abduction experience, I highly recommend perusing the therapist who led the zoom call: Marcie Klevens.
 

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« Reply #4942 on: January 16, 2022, 05:58:56 PM »
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not bragging but a friend and I owned one of these in 1969 ............  we were in med school at the time and dirt poor.  We had fun ...

That's a car you owned because you were dirt poor???  And what would that be worth today?..
 

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« Reply #4943 on: January 16, 2022, 06:06:32 PM »
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RMB and me could be the opening act.... I was zooming some new friends at the Seattle UFO Network to discuss alien abductions and guess who showed up on their membership roster - yup. For those interested in the alien abduction experience, I highly recommend perusing the therapist who led the zoom call: Marcie Klevens.

Yes. His new girlfriend is with those people, and his campouts are are now more themed to and populated by SUFON than Cooper. He's planning a big one now for July. Hate to say it, but you might want to check it out.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4944 on: January 16, 2022, 08:39:17 PM »
Never.
 

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« Reply #4945 on: January 16, 2022, 08:55:20 PM »
Well I understand and respect your position. But aside from him, you would encounter a lot of people you either already know or would find interesting. Hell, you could be best man at his wedding! (Yeah, that last part was a joke.)
 
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« Reply #4946 on: January 16, 2022, 11:37:57 PM »
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not bragging but a friend and I owned one of these in 1969 ............  we were in med school at the time and dirt poor.  We had fun ...

That's a car you owned because you were dirt poor???  And what would that be worth today?..

oh several hundred thousand + I guess .... the bank owned the car, Brad and I just made payments. A year later I sold my share to my brother with one of these in the deal ...  :o  my one true love. 3000 series Austin Healey. A married guy in med school had to give it up on orders of his wife! It was his wife or the car. $1500.  It was almost an act of charity .... we had to help save his marriage! That car haunts me to this day ....   :rofl:   
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« Reply #4947 on: January 17, 2022, 12:50:04 AM »
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Well I understand and respect your position. But aside from him, you would encounter a lot of people you either already know or would find interesting. Hell, you could be best man at his wedding! (Yeah, that last part was a joke.)

Yup. That's one of the reasons I'm participating in these groups. SUFON is one the most exciting groups of kindred spirits I have found in recent years. I'm already madly in love with Dr. Klevens....
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« Reply #4948 on: January 17, 2022, 01:16:36 AM »
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Well I understand and respect your position. But aside from him, you would encounter a lot of people you either already know or would find interesting. Hell, you could be best man at his wedding! (Yeah, that last part was a joke.)

Yup. That's one of the reasons I'm participating in these groups. SUFON is one the most exciting groups of kindred spirits I have found in recent years. I'm already madly in love with Dr. Klevens....

If it would help, you could tell Dr. Klevens (for her ears only) that you know the guy who's paid by the USG to remove evidence of alien abductions from the internet. And that same guy had the brilliant idea, to not fully scour like China, which actually works against the goal of controlling the masses.

The trick is to leave "just enough" bread crumbs, so the informed in the masses spend all their time (and their minds) trying to deduce what's missing/not there.

I presented that strategy at my job interview, and it sealed the deal.
I didn't tell them that I knew the strategy would work because it was used successfully in the DBC case.
 

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« Reply #4949 on: January 17, 2022, 10:29:12 AM »
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Yo, DB Fan. Accepting Richard McCoy as DB Cooper requires one to untangle the FBI conundrum - whom to believe and what evidence to accept.

The Seattle office has what they consider proof that McCoy was in Provo on Thanksgiving Day, 1971; ie: the eye-witness reports that place McCoy at home and his mileage logs, such as those Marty has been referring to.

The Salt Lake City office says, "Nope. He was in Las Vegas and probably transiting to/from Portland," and Calame and Rhodes have a ton of evidence to support that perspective, such as gas receipts and a collect phone call.

To accept McCoy as Cooper, you have to disprove the Seattle's evidence. Can you?

More troubling, can Gryder? As Marty has pointed out, Dan Gryder is grossly under-informed on much of the McCoy evidence. Such a state of affairs makes his touting of McCoy-as-Cooper nearly impossible to believe.

In addition, dodging my phone calls AND dissing Darren puts Gryder, Chante, and Little Rick in a bad light. That's two big strikes against Danny G, and one more assigns him to the trash pile along with RMB and Kenny C.

OK Bruce.  First of all, I am not 100% sold. But lets see what Gryder offers up in part 2?  And also, if you have a way, could you arrange Chante to take a lie detector test?  I would not involve Richards son because that guy looks like he just came out of Leavenworth.  But Chante is the more credible source would you not agree?  See if she will take a lie detector test?  That is a start.  As for the FBI, how can you put any faith in them?  Himmelsdick was just terrible. And he has no evidence that DB Cooper no matter who he was died in the jump.  If it was Richard McCoy, lets not forget, the guy was a GREEN BERET.  Do you think a green beret is going to just crumble?  Ask that to your pal Ulis who has really made a fool of himself lately.  So I would ask you to arrange a lie detector test since you are "connected".  You know, like a mobster.  LOL

Yo, DB Fan - you give me more miraculous powers than I'm entitled to - as I don't have access to a lie detector device. Besides, I don't think Chante is lying. Rather, I think she is telling the truth as she knows it. However, what she believes - and what she has been told - is incorrect. As does Marla Cooper and Lisa Story. That's why I'd like to see these three tigers hash it up on stage for CC22.
So there will be  another Cooper event this year?  Lets see if Dan Gryder presents part 2 of his theory.  I believe he will.  But not sure what he has up his sleeve.  He has certainly proven it was possible that Cooper/McCoy non matter who he was, could have simply lost the money.  And part of it was found.  If it had been planted, and I say NO WAY, it would have been planted where it was easily and quickly found.  Not 8 years later. And it may have never been found.  It was there because it was dropped.  By the real Cooper, whether he was Richard or not.  Do not underestimate a Green Beret from surviving these jumps.  like that Himmelsbach or whatever his name was.