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« Reply #7965 on: April 13, 2021, 03:36:43 PM »
Why are Fortune Seekers attracted to crime stories and crime mysteries ? Here's one explanation -

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7966 on: April 13, 2021, 03:51:43 PM »
Part 52 LAB REPORTS INCLUDING DNA: pages: 21601-08, 21615-17, 21624-25 dna, 21728-29, 21755-56, 21868-69, 

These are the pages people are starting to post including FJ ... these pages are merely clerical reports that may not contain hard information.
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« Reply #7967 on: April 14, 2021, 07:58:55 PM »
Why has the FBI used the DNA from the unreliable tie rather than the brown hair found on the towel on the headrest of Cooper's seat? It is now possible to extract complete nuclear DNA samples from rootless hairs.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7968 on: April 14, 2021, 09:18:09 PM »
Shutter, why have you changed the settings on this site?
 

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« Reply #7969 on: April 14, 2021, 09:39:55 PM »
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Shutter, why have you changed the settings on this site?

None that I'm aware of. can you be a little more specific.
 

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« Reply #7970 on: April 14, 2021, 09:52:14 PM »
I usually keep cookies blocked if I'm just reading stuff on the net, unless I'm gonna sign in somewhere. I couldn't get this site to load unless I enabled them. Now it seems to be hit n miss. Other sites are responding normally....
 

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« Reply #7971 on: April 14, 2021, 09:57:07 PM »
I haven't changed anything or updated anything.
 

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« Reply #7972 on: April 14, 2021, 10:22:41 PM »
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Why has the FBI used the DNA from the unreliable tie rather than the brown hair found on the towel on the headrest of Cooper's seat? It is now possible to extract complete nuclear DNA samples from rootless hairs.

The cigarette butts have probably been seen since the last time that hair was.
 

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« Reply #7973 on: April 15, 2021, 12:18:43 AM »
Shutter,

I have also noticed that the search function is restricted to very recent posts rather than all hits.
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« Reply #7974 on: April 15, 2021, 03:09:05 AM »
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Why has the FBI used the DNA from the unreliable tie rather than the brown hair found on the towel on the headrest of Cooper's seat? It is now possible to extract complete nuclear DNA samples from rootless hairs.

If you read the file it says: Two specimens Q40 and a Q41 were "combined". There is no clarification regarding what Q40 and Q41 were. Nobody except the Lab and the FBI has any way of knowing. Combined how, at what stage of the process? No mention of swabs ....

"The dna profile from specimens Q40/Q41 combined for analysis, will be entered into CODIS for future comparison ..."
 
Hair strands contain no dna. Only the follicle. 

People need to read that file and come to understand what it says, and does not say. File 21625.

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« Reply #7975 on: April 15, 2021, 04:14:36 AM »
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Hair strands contain no dna. Only the follicle.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7976 on: April 15, 2021, 09:04:26 AM »
Q40 was the tie. Q41 was the tie clip.
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« Reply #7977 on: April 15, 2021, 12:20:53 PM »
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Hair strands contain no dna. Only the follicle.
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Give  us a break: You are saying the FBI Lab is using Green's technique?  Has no relevance to what has been done in the Cooper case. :rofl:


Technology

September 25, 2019

Until now, forensic scientists have only been able to extract DNA from hairs found at crime scenes if they have their root attached. Unfortunately, most hairs do not have the root attached, so using DNA sampling to discover whom it belonged to has been impossible.

Thankfully a researcher from the University of California, Santa Cruz, has had a breakthrough in the way DNA can be extracted from hairs. Using a technique first used to extract DNA from fossilized bones Dr. Ed Green was able to create his own genotype using one of his own rootless hairs. He uploaded this genotype, as well as one created using a saliva sample, to a DNA database, and discovered both genotypes matched him with the same relatives. This proved that his technique could extract an accurate genotype from the rootless hair.

Following this test, Dr. Green used the technique to extract DNA from the hair of four unidentified murder victims from New Hampshire. DNA extracted from hairs allowed for identification of two of the victims, and DNA extracted from liver tissue identified a third. This breakthrough in DNA extraction will be extremely beneficial for solving crimes, both cold cases and current cases, although Dr. Green cautions that the technique is expensive, so it won’t be standard practice for all cases any time soon.

Source: The New York Times
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7978 on: April 15, 2021, 12:24:00 PM »
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Hair strands contain no dna. Only the follicle.
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Give  us a break: You are saying the FBI Lab is using Green's technique?  Has no relevance to what has been done in the Cooper case. :rofl:


Technology

September 25, 2019

Until now, forensic scientists have only been able to extract DNA from hairs found at crime scenes if they have their root attached. Unfortunately, most hairs do not have the root attached, so using DNA sampling to discover whom it belonged to has been impossible.

Thankfully a researcher from the University of California, Santa Cruz, has had a breakthrough in the way DNA can be extracted from hairs. Using a technique first used to extract DNA from fossilized bones Dr. Ed Green was able to create his own genotype using one of his own rootless hairs. He uploaded this genotype, as well as one created using a saliva sample, to a DNA database, and discovered both genotypes matched him with the same relatives. This proved that his technique could extract an accurate genotype from the rootless hair.

Following this test, Dr. Green used the technique to extract DNA from the hair of four unidentified murder victims from New Hampshire. DNA extracted from hairs allowed for identification of two of the victims, and DNA extracted from liver tissue identified a third. This breakthrough in DNA extraction will be extremely beneficial for solving crimes, both cold cases and current cases, although Dr. Green cautions that the technique is expensive, so it won’t be standard practice for all cases any time soon.

Source: The New York Times
Not saying that at all. Just refuting the notion that you can’t get DNA from rootless hairs. Whether the FBI utilizes that technique, I don’t know.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7979 on: April 15, 2021, 12:26:39 PM »
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Hair strands contain no dna. Only the follicle.
Not true:

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Give  us a break: You are saying the FBI Lab is using Green's technique?  Has no relevance to what has been done in the Cooper case. :rofl:


Technology

September 25, 2019

Until now, forensic scientists have only been able to extract DNA from hairs found at crime scenes if they have their root attached. Unfortunately, most hairs do not have the root attached, so using DNA sampling to discover whom it belonged to has been impossible.

Thankfully a researcher from the University of California, Santa Cruz, has had a breakthrough in the way DNA can be extracted from hairs. Using a technique first used to extract DNA from fossilized bones Dr. Ed Green was able to create his own genotype using one of his own rootless hairs. He uploaded this genotype, as well as one created using a saliva sample, to a DNA database, and discovered both genotypes matched him with the same relatives. This proved that his technique could extract an accurate genotype from the rootless hair.

Following this test, Dr. Green used the technique to extract DNA from the hair of four unidentified murder victims from New Hampshire. DNA extracted from hairs allowed for identification of two of the victims, and DNA extracted from liver tissue identified a third. This breakthrough in DNA extraction will be extremely beneficial for solving crimes, both cold cases and current cases, although Dr. Green cautions that the technique is expensive, so it won’t be standard practice for all cases any time soon.

Source: The New York Times
Not saying that at all. Just refuting the notion that you can’t get DNA from rootless hairs. Whether the FBI utilizes that technique, I don’t know.

Get real for a change!  Stop playing GAMES.