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Shutter:
You might want to swing over to the Tina Bar thread....Tom is here now... ;D

andrade1812:
 :(

Now I have to read the Citizen Sleuths website again before I can go to bed.

Shutter:
I guess something came up. he left the building  :(

I'm sure he will return to answer some questions for us....hang in there  ;D

Robert99:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginSo here's a question I have that doesn't fit anywhere:

Today ties aren't universal. Most people who wear ties regularly, knot them properly. I know of nobody who wears ties and mixes knotted and clip-on ties. The only people I know who wear clip-on ties are kids working as bus boys in restaurants.

When ties were more universal, did people regularly buy both for convenience?

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The answer to your last question is "no".  In the 1960s, clip-on ties could be bought in drug stores for two dollars or less.  Note:  I AM aware that Cooper's tie has been identified as a JC Penny product which is relatively upscale for such a thing.

Robert99:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThe tie has latent evidence like titanium, stuff from medication packing, match particles and other metals. So the tie didn't belong to a busboy who was milling pure titanium in the late 1960's. The tie's original owner wasn't a bartender. I don't think the tie picked up spiral titanium particles sitting in evidence. I guess it depends on how much faith you have in Tom Kaye, but his analysis is important. If he's right about the scarcity of pure titanium, then the tie has a big story to tell, not a small one.

To me, Kaye's evidence makes sense. If the guy was working in a shop machining parts from pure titanium, the owner would want a clip-on tie that wouldn't kill him if it got caught in a lathe.

If Cooper bought the tie at an estate sale, that still puts Cooper in one of a few regions where they had shops likes this.

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For ever picture you can produce of someone in a machine shop wearing a clip-on tie, Tom Kaye can produce a picture of a machine shop employee wearing a fully knotted tie.  So the machine shop illustration is basically a wash.

However, I can definitely understand why a policeman would wear one since it would be one less thing that the bad guys could grab during a fight.  I imagine that most field policewomen wear their hair in a bun for the same reason.

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