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Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
fcastle866:
Can anyone shed light on when the FBI announced to the public that they had the clip-on tie? Or when anyone reported on it? Tosaw's book (1984) says all they had were the cigarette butts, no mention of the tie. Himmelsbach's (1986) does not mention him leaving the tie on the plane either. Could it be they held onto that part of the story for over 15 years or more? Could there be more holdbacks?
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Register or LoginThe only way to know if the "dummy chute" was actually a dummy chute would be to open it. That wasn't done on the plane, so it begs the question of how important the chute was, or knowing if it was a legit chute.
Besides, he couldn't attach it to anything so for me it is unlikely that Coop used it as a chute.
It is plausible that he used it to descend from a tree, though.
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I have to disagree on a couple of very important items here Bruce.
First, if the dummy reserve actually had a red "X" affixed to it (not at all certain if this is true) then Cooper could have easily recognized the dummy reserve as just that. Furthermore, according to Cossey the dummy was not packed as tightly as the genuine reserve and this was apparently noticeable to the touch. I do not know why this would be the case if none of the shroud lines were removed. Perhaps 377 could weigh in on this.
Second, Tina Mucklow testified that she saw Cooper attempting to fit the ransom into one of the reserves. In fact, the size differential between the ransom bank bag and each of the reserves is obvious. In other words, merely observing the bank bag next to the reserves would be enough for Cooper to recognize that he couldn't fit the bank bag into a reserve.
However, Tina testified that this is what she saw. I believe what she actually witnessed was Cooper putting a "portion" of the ransom into the missing dummy reserve. The reason for this is that the bank bag could not be properly secured without removing several of the packets of $20s...it was too full.
Later, I surmise that Cooper, landing near Tena Bar, buried the bank bag along with these excess packets of $20s that were crammed into the dummy reserve, on the beach at Tena Bar. Later, under cover of darkness, Cooper returned to retrieve the bank bag and the loose packets of $20s buried in the sand, however, three of the loose packets were accidentally left behind.
Let us remember Sheridan Peterson's comments about the dummy reserve being daisy-chained inside.
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EU wrote: "First, if the dummy reserve actually had a red "X" affixed to it (not at all certain if this is true) then Cooper could have easily recognized the dummy reserve as just that. Furthermore, according to Cossey the dummy was not packed as tightly as the genuine reserve and this was apparently noticeable to the touch. I do not know why this would be the case if none of the shroud lines were removed. Perhaps 377 could weigh in on this."
I never had any trouble spotting dummy reserves at my DZ's training facility as the containers were (sloppily) spray painted red/orange. Normally chest reserves pack up VERY tight. Unless some canopy material, suspension lines or a pilot chute, kicker plate or something else was removed I don't see why they would pack up loose when used as dummy reserve training aid.
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Later, I surmise that Cooper, landing near Tena Bar, buried the bank bag along with these excess packets of $20s that were crammed into the dummy reserve, on the beach at Tena Bar. Later, under cover of darkness, Cooper returned to retrieve the bank bag and the loose packets of $20s buried in the sand, however, three of the loose packets were accidentally left behind.
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How do you explain the numerous shards of decaying $20 bills found in the area by FBI digging? Some of them were found in sand layers a few feet under the intact bundles.
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Later, I surmise that Cooper, landing near Tena Bar, buried the bank bag along with these excess packets of $20s that were crammed into the dummy reserve, on the beach at Tena Bar. Later, under cover of darkness, Cooper returned to retrieve the bank bag and the loose packets of $20s buried in the sand, however, three of the loose packets were accidentally left behind.
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How do you explain the numerous shards of decaying $20 bills found in the area by FBI digging? Some of them were found in sand layers a few feet under the intact bundles.
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Simply put, it isn't accurate. There is absolutely no evidence supporting a broad and deep shard field. What you have is sloppy, and obviously inaccurate, language from Schroeder (spelling ?) when interviewed by a TV reporter. The reporter himself even states that very few additional money pieces were found, and near the surface, in a later segment. Moreover, they actually display the totality of what was found and it amounts to only a few pieces. Not to mention, these "phantom" shards are not in the FBI's possession.
What we have is a classic case of someone being taken too literally. In fact, Schroeder innocently enough exaggerated the context of what was found at Tena Bar by the FBI. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing--film footage, evidence in FBI's possession, witness testimony from Fazio's, etc--backs up the notion of a shard field that was broad and deep.
What is irrefutable is that three independent packets were found just below the surface with original rubber bands still intact that immediately crumbled when touched. Furthermore, that the precise spot of the money find You are not allowed to view links.
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