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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on February 15, 2020, 04:51:21 AM »
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We've been getting hammered by rain in Tennessee as well. I left all of that mess behind and drove to Iowa today. No rain here, but it's cold. Cold enough that the second of my two jobs this week cancelled on me.


I just read in the NY Times that the Great Lakes are at historic high water levels in all five lakes due to five years of historically above average rainfall. NY State has had to begin building berms along the shoreline of Lake Ontario to protect Buffalo and surrounding lands. Chicago and other lake-side cities are taking similar measures.

BTW Parrot, I remember the great Cumberland River flood in Nashville. 2003, I believe. I had just left town, but when I heard that floods had reached near my old post office in the Green Hills section, I was flabbergasted.

Old news to Yuppers - eh?   NPR Science Friday covered the crisis today
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on February 15, 2020, 03:28:06 AM »
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We've been getting hammered by rain in Tennessee as well. I left all of that mess behind and drove to Iowa today. No rain here, but it's cold. Cold enough that the second of my two jobs this week cancelled on me.


I just read in the NY Times that the Great Lakes are at historic high water levels in all five lakes due to five years of historically above average rainfall. NY State has had to begin building berms along the shoreline of Lake Ontario to protect Buffalo and surrounding lands. Chicago and other lake-side cities are taking similar measures.

BTW Parrot, I remember the great Cumberland River flood in Nashville. 2003, I believe. I had just left town, but when I heard that floods had reached near my old post office in the Green Hills section, I was flabbergasted.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on February 15, 2020, 03:24:10 AM »
Rain Update from Cooper Country

The rains keep coming. The hillsides keep sliding, too. The main road into Mount Rainier National Park, SR 706, enters the park at the so-called "Nisqually Entrance." This road runs directly through my hometown of Eatonville, too, and from Eatonville climbs through the foothills past the town of Ashford, which is an artsy-craftsy town about six miles from the Nisqually gate. The slides have been so fierce between Ashford and the park that state authorities have closed the road and the park for at least four weeks to clean up the mess. One can not even seen roadway at this point. The pavement is buried under feet of mud, trees, roots and rocks.

Several hundred Ashford residents and park visitors have been stranded and have had to be escorted out to safety. It's gettin' serious.
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by haggarknew on February 14, 2020, 07:00:56 PM »
Wow, a little more expensive than I imagined.  Makes me appreciate 377's generosity even more.  That being said, if it ever came down to it I would be willing to chip in a little toward the purchase of a fragment to be used for testing. I just don't want 377 to feel pressured into volunteering use of his bill for testing purposes. Hopefully the testing doesn't damage the bill too much. Thanks again 377. It is very exciting to think of the possible new information this testing may be leading us to.  One last thought, would Josh Gates be interested in helping purchase a fragment for testing?
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on February 14, 2020, 04:46:54 PM »
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Roughly how much would a fragment of Cooper money cost?

My understanding is that all the bills that are available for sale are all fragments - at best, perhaps 50-60% of a complete bill. Many are in the 30-40% range. The 2011 auction price was approximately $3,500. Not sure of current pricing.
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on February 14, 2020, 03:29:37 PM »
FLYJACK is still arguing today - and muddying the waters further! Who said what when and WTF does it matter! If Tom misrepresented FJ, FJ needs to straighten it out with . . . Tom Kaye!

Tom posted: "and Flyjack found out that Asterionella formosa was a winter species and A. japonica was a summer species..."

Today FJ seems to be saying the correct ID is A japonica .... but I am not even sure he's saying that! I dont know what he's trying to say!  And frankly it does not matter.

What matters is whatever the correct id is, and whatever season Tom's asterionella blooms in, ALL OF THE ASTERIONELLA TOM PHOTOGRAPHED ARE 'PIECES AND PARTS OF NON LIVING DEAD ASTERIONELLA FROM SOME PREVIOUS SEASON"!

Here they are below -   

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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by haggarknew on February 14, 2020, 03:24:04 PM »
Roughly how much would a fragment of Cooper money cost?
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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on February 14, 2020, 02:28:00 AM »
NEWS! FLYJACK CONTRADICTED BY LEADING DIATOM EXPERTS -

FLYJACK proposed, told Tom, that a-formosa was a winter blooming diatom. Tom passed that on to this group! Turns out FLYJACK is wrong. Quote:

"We isolated a chytrid parasite of the dominant spring bloom diatom, Asterionella formosa, (in the Lower Columbia) and sequenced DNA from several regions within the ribosomal RNA gene. We also investigated the specificity of ... " 

Then from another source: "Asterionella formosa is the dominate diatom every Spring in the Lower Columbia ... one which is routinely inspected for parasitic hosting of the fungal chytrid parasites ..."

This explains why Tom's photos show what they show. The money was found in Feb 1980 near the end of the winter diatom bloom. Tom's photos show a few apparently healthy fully developed diatoms, but only broken aged dead pieces of a-formosa which we now know to be a SPRING bloom vs winter bloom as FLYJACK AND TOM insisted! The facts of this matter cited by experts now seem to agree with and explain Tom's photos.

It is also quite obvious that Mr. FLYJACK doesn't know what he's talking about or is only guessing, and doesn't know the difference between a living and a dead diatom (parts!). Caution and skepticism are now warranted.

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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on February 13, 2020, 11:39:32 PM »
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I am writing this in response to 377's agreeing to further research being done on his Cooper bill.  Thank you for being so generous 377!  It is very much appreciated.    I was wondering if any Cooper bills or fragments come up for sale nowadays? If so, could we as a group possibly purchase such to be used for testing? I kind of feel guilty that 377 has to foot the bill all by himself. (so to speak)

377 is generous indeed. I can't say that I would be willing to offer up my Cooper 20 for testing of any kind...if I had one.

... Cooper money specimens for testing have always been available, from several sources. This was explored years ago. The problem is unwillingness, lack of 'cooperate and ka muun cate'.  Maybe playing banjo helps! ?  Even the FBI would have had to get a Court Order through the Justice Dept to get it done. There just hasn't been the enlightenment to undo what Tosaw, the Ingrams, the insurance co, etal and the Court set in place for posterity! ;)  We need a breakthrough:

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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by Parrotheadvol on February 13, 2020, 09:31:17 PM »
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I am writing this in response to 377's agreeing to further research being done on his Cooper bill.  Thank you for being so generous 377!  It is very much appreciated.    I was wondering if any Cooper bills or fragments come up for sale nowadays? If so, could we as a group possibly purchase such to be used for testing? I kind of feel guilty that 377 has to foot the bill all by himself. (so to speak)

377 is generous indeed. I can't say that I would be willing to offer up my Cooper 20 for testing of any kind...if I had one.
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