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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on June 28, 2020, 12:00:26 AM »
Actual genius at work!

Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah (Live In London)   

operatic form:  Standford University High school singer 16 yr. old McKenna Breinholt ...

or Jeff Buckley 2014 -    

Happy Fourth of July - God bless all - Hallelujah

Hallelujah! 
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by EU on June 27, 2020, 03:32:12 PM »
A new video I have up introducing a new series of YouTube videos I'm launching entitled "The Search for DB Cooper's Cash"

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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on June 25, 2020, 06:34:57 PM »
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Books on DB Cooper

Am I missing anyone or anything?


1.   Ulis, Eric, SKY GHOST – The Enigma of D. B. Cooper, 2020, tba
2.   Loufoque, Nat, D.B. Cooper Examined, Identified, Exposed, 2019
3.   Laurin, Carl, D. B. Cooper and Me – A Criminal, A Spy, My Best Friend, 2018
4.   Andrade, Marty, Finding D.B. Cooper – Chasing the Last Lead in America’s Only Unsolved Skyjacking, 2016
5.   Colbert, Thomas J., and Szollosi, Tom, The Last Master Outlaw, 2016
6.   Rollins, William III, The Elusive DB Cooper, 2016
7.   Smith, Bruce A, DB Cooper and the FBI – A Case Study of America’s Only Unsolved Skyjacking, 1st Edition, 2015, 2nd Edition 2106, 3rd Edition, 2020, tba.
8.   Collins, Bradley Scott, My Father was D.B. Cooper, 2013
9.   Gray, Geoffrey, SKYJACK – The Hunt for DB Cooper, 2011
10.    Nuttall, George, and Grady, Harry. DB Cooper Case Exposed – J. Edgar Hoover Cover-Up?, 2010
11.    Forman, Ron and Pat, The Legend of DB Cooper – Death by Natural Causes, 2008
12.    Porteous, Skipp, and Blevins, Robert M., Into the Blast, The True Story of D.B. Cooper, 2008
13.    Peterson, Sheridan, The Idiot’s Frightful Laughter, 1st Edition, 2007, 2nd Edition, 2016
14.   Rhodes, Bernie, and Calame, Russ, D. B. Cooper – The Real McCoy,1991
15.   Tosaw, Richard, D.B. Cooper – Dead or Alive?, 1984
16.    Himmelsbach, Ralph, and Worcester, Thomas, NORJAK: The Investigation of D.B. Cooper, 1986
17.    Gunther, Max, D.B. Cooper – What Really Happened, 1985

Getting the Truth: I am DB Cooper by Joe Koenig
Still Missing by Ross Richardson

In a few days you can add Paratrooper of Fortune: The Story of Ted B Braden  by Drew Beeson to the list too! I got to read an advance copy and its really good!

OOPS. Thanks, Darren. Congrats on the early copy from Drew.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on June 25, 2020, 06:33:45 PM »
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I'd love it if you'd add James Klansnic and Howard Hunt to the 3rd edition too Bruce!


Good idea. They're on the list.

Bruce: Looks like you hit the main points: A few new suspects, EU's entry, CooperCon, Himmelsbach death, Cooper Vortex.  One suggestion would be to add a bit of info on Doug Perry's journalism.  He is the only journalist I know of from a major paper who is still consistently writing articles.

Any idea when you would release the new edition?

Himmelsbach's death?  Word is all H's personal NORJAK  papers were destroyed at his request after he died. To spare H's family constant disruption and harassment from Cooper wannabes/speculators for whom the truth is a mere inconvenience. The papers were burned.

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Good to know, G. Thanks.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on June 25, 2020, 06:32:50 PM »
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I'd love it if you'd add James Klansnic and Howard Hunt to the 3rd edition too Bruce!


Good idea. They're on the list.

Bruce: Looks like you hit the main points: A few new suspects, EU's entry, CooperCon, Himmelsbach death, Cooper Vortex.  One suggestion would be to add a bit of info on Doug Perry's journalism.  He is the only journalist I know of from a major paper who is still consistently writing articles.

Any idea when you would release the new edition?

Good point about Doug. I'll add some more on him.

As for publishing, I am diligently looking for a literary agent and publisher. If I don't find one in the next six months or so, I self-pub again at Amazon.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by Bruce A. Smith on June 25, 2020, 06:26:16 PM »
William J. Smith as a suspect

I thought I'd post my recent overview of William J Smith since I know I was a bit confused a year or two ago in the discussions of who was Smith, Dan LeClair, Dan E Clair, etc.

William J. Smith, my overview, June 2020

Another suspect to appear recently is William Smith, advocated by an individual who is known to me but chooses to call himself “Anonymous” in public because of his status as an active-duty US Army “data” analyst. This fellow has nothing to do with the “Anonymous” who penned a highly controversial op-ed piece in the New York Times in 2018 claiming that he was a senior White House official who was keeping President Donald Trump from doing anything really stupid.

Nevertheless, our Anonymous caught the Cooper bug in 2015 or so when he read Max Gunther’s book, DB Cooper – What Really Happened. The book is a tantalizing smorgasbord of Cooper clues and speculations, topped off by Gunther’s claims that the “facts” of the case were supplied in 1972 by a fellow calling himself Dan LeClair, who introduced himself as the real DB Cooper.

However, LeClair broke off communications with Gunther soon after. Nevertheless, Gunter, who was a professional journalist and fiction author, was contacted ten years later by a woman named “Clara.” She said she was the widow of Dan LeClair, and continued telling Gunther the family’s DB Cooper story.

Clara told Gunther that she was living in a cabin in LZ-A in November 1971 and had discovered DB Cooper hiding on her property, nursing a sprained ankle. She says she took care of Cooper and soon fell in love with him. Together, they laundered the money in Atlantic City casinos, eventually settling into a comfortable middle-class life in suburban New York.

When Gunther’s DBC book was published in 1985, it was given a fair amount of credibility based upon his reputation. FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach acknowledged that he was aware of the book, but he told reporters that he thought most of Gunther’s book was “filler.” Subsequently, DB Cooper – What Really Happened was considered to be pure fiction by the current era by most DB Cooper aficionados.

But Anonymous wondered if any of it was true. He linked Gunther’s DBC character, “Dan LeClair” to the actual DB Cooper suspect Dan E. Clair, who was a skydiver in the summer of 1971 at the famous Elsinore Skydiving Center in California, renown as the site of alleged CIA recruiting and a favored locale for many DBC suspects.

When I spoke with Anonymous in 2017, we discussed the value of contacting Max Gunther’s children and learning if they had any of their father’s notes on his Cooper book. Unfortunately, Anonymous didn’t feel comfortable with that task and supposedly enlisted the help of another DB Cooper researcher and author, Marty Andrade. In addition, Doug Perry of the Oregonian also attempted to contact the children of Gunther in support of his reporting on the findings of Anonymous. However, no one was able to establish communication with any of Gunther’s descendants.

Digging deeper though, Anonymous came to the conclusion that Dan LeClair, or Dan E. Clair was not DB Cooper. Rather, Anonymous felt that the real DB Cooper was William J Smith, a life-long friend of Dan Clair. Anonymous feels that Smith used his friend’s identity to mask his communications with Max Gunther, and not only does Anonymous believe Smith is DB Cooper, Anonymous delivered his findings on Smith to the FBI in 2018.

Anonymous bases his claims on a personality profile of Smith, who besides being a gentleman, gained extensive aviation experience in WWII as a combat air crewman and reconnaissance photographer for the Navy. In addition, Smith is a dead-ringer for Composite sketch “B,” including the smirk. Further, Smith was 43 years-old in 1971, and had dark brown eyes and an olive complexion.

Key to Anonymous’ hypothesis is the fact that Clair and Smith worked together for years, especially as “yarders’ for the Penn Central Railroad, which is where Smith might have picked up the strange particles found on Cooper’s tie. Anonymous also feels that Smith’s railroad connections provided him with a superb means of escape after the skyjacking, as railroad tracks are ubiquitous across the United States. Also, riding the rails to freedom would be an absolutely sublime getaway, a notion held by many other Cooper researchers.

Lastly, Anonymous felt the downturn of the railroad industry in the 1960s and 1970s triggered a “grudge” and was the plausible motivation for DBC to hijack an aircraft.

But direct links to Flight 305, PDX, and Portland are thin. Other than an uncanny resemblance to the sketches and intriguing speculations on motive and getaways, most researchers do not consider William J Smith to be a strong candidate for DB Cooper.

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DB Cooper / Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Last post by georger on June 25, 2020, 05:54:00 PM »
Fyjack's latest statement about the money!

FLYJACK
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Tuesday at 09:15 AM  no date
 
This is getting silly... Georger still doesn't understand the "packets".. this is so simple.

The bills were all in a random SN order.. so random means count for this discussion.

Larry Carr claimed the 3 bundles found were each in random counts. He was wrong, they weren't random counts and they were really in "packets of 100 bills each". He claimed the bundles were random counts and rubber banded. This is correct but because Larry incorrectly thought the "packets" were "bundles", his conclusion was wrong. He incorrectly applied the correct premise to the packets instead of the group of packets, the bundles.
This is why it is crucial to correctly identify "packets" and "bundles"..

Larry and Georger screwed this up 10 years ago and he still can't see the obvious error.

Remember, the money went to Cooper in packets of 100 bills each. Those packets were rubber banded into random sized bundles.
How did the money go to Cooper in packets of 100 each and get found in random counts... it didn't. Larry and Georger conflated the terms "packets" and "bundles" to erroneously conclude the packets were a random count.. they weren't. The bundles were a random number of packets.

Those packets were rubber banded into random sized bundles. So, a single bundle may have 3, 4 or 5 packets of 100 bills each rubber banded into one bundle.
Cooper received 100 packets of 100 bills each. Those individual packets were rubber banded into bundles. Each bundle had a random number of packets,, perhaps 3s, 4s, 5s per bundle. 
 
It is very likely the 3 TBAR packets of 100 bills each arrived as 1 rubber banded bundle. As the rubber bands deteriorated the 3 packets of 100 bills each separated slightly. 

The claim that the three packets only arrived on TBAR separately is bogus. For 3 packets to arrive at the same spot independently but together limits the means by which they could have arrived. More likely, they arrived in one bundle and the possible means by which they arrived is expanded.
Since the FBI had the bill sequence on Micro they could easily compare and determine the TBAR bill count.
 
What happened to the few missing bills..
1. The bills were removed before deposit on TBAR. Potentially spent into circulation. 
2. The bills were worn away due to erosion, perhaps they were on the top of the top packet in the single bundle.
3. The bills were taken, removed or kept after the money was found before the FBI got the money.
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REPLY:  Packet is not a formal banking term! No bank including the US Federal Reserve has the slightest idea what Flyjack means by "packet". All said packet is NOT a formal banking term. No bank organises its money in "@packets"! SeaFirst could not have delivered its ransom money to Cooper in packets ... because SeaFirst doles not have the faintest idea what a packet of money is! All say Flyjack has invented a term which has no meaning in reality!

EU should take note of this fact for his next invention/speculation about the Cooper ransom.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by georger on June 25, 2020, 04:13:40 PM »
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I'd love it if you'd add James Klansnic and Howard Hunt to the 3rd edition too Bruce!


Good idea. They're on the list.

Bruce: Looks like you hit the main points: A few new suspects, EU's entry, CooperCon, Himmelsbach death, Cooper Vortex.  One suggestion would be to add a bit of info on Doug Perry's journalism.  He is the only journalist I know of from a major paper who is still consistently writing articles.

Any idea when you would release the new edition?

Himmelsbach's death?  Word is all H's personal NORJAK  papers were destroyed at his request after he died. To spare H's family constant disruption and harassment from Cooper wannabes/speculators for whom the truth is a mere inconvenience. The papers were burned.

 vote the smileycode and safe
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by Darren on June 25, 2020, 11:48:20 AM »
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Books on DB Cooper

Am I missing anyone or anything?


1.   Ulis, Eric, SKY GHOST – The Enigma of D. B. Cooper, 2020, tba
2.   Loufoque, Nat, D.B. Cooper Examined, Identified, Exposed, 2019
3.   Laurin, Carl, D. B. Cooper and Me – A Criminal, A Spy, My Best Friend, 2018
4.   Andrade, Marty, Finding D.B. Cooper – Chasing the Last Lead in America’s Only Unsolved Skyjacking, 2016
5.   Colbert, Thomas J., and Szollosi, Tom, The Last Master Outlaw, 2016
6.   Rollins, William III, The Elusive DB Cooper, 2016
7.   Smith, Bruce A, DB Cooper and the FBI – A Case Study of America’s Only Unsolved Skyjacking, 1st Edition, 2015, 2nd Edition 2106, 3rd Edition, 2020, tba.
8.   Collins, Bradley Scott, My Father was D.B. Cooper, 2013
9.   Gray, Geoffrey, SKYJACK – The Hunt for DB Cooper, 2011
10.    Nuttall, George, and Grady, Harry. DB Cooper Case Exposed – J. Edgar Hoover Cover-Up?, 2010
11.    Forman, Ron and Pat, The Legend of DB Cooper – Death by Natural Causes, 2008
12.    Porteous, Skipp, and Blevins, Robert M., Into the Blast, The True Story of D.B. Cooper, 2008
13.    Peterson, Sheridan, The Idiot’s Frightful Laughter, 1st Edition, 2007, 2nd Edition, 2016
14.   Rhodes, Bernie, and Calame, Russ, D. B. Cooper – The Real McCoy,1991
15.   Tosaw, Richard, D.B. Cooper – Dead or Alive?, 1984
16.    Himmelsbach, Ralph, and Worcester, Thomas, NORJAK: The Investigation of D.B. Cooper, 1986
17.    Gunther, Max, D.B. Cooper – What Really Happened, 1985

Getting the Truth: I am DB Cooper by Joe Koenig
Still Missing by Ross Richardson

In a few days you can add Paratrooper of Fortune: The Story of Ted B Braden  by Drew Beeson to the list too! I got to read an advance copy and its really good!
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by fcastle866 on June 25, 2020, 10:26:47 AM »
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I'd love it if you'd add James Klansnic and Howard Hunt to the 3rd edition too Bruce!


Good idea. They're on the list.

Bruce: Looks like you hit the main points: A few new suspects, EU's entry, CooperCon, Himmelsbach death, Cooper Vortex.  One suggestion would be to add a bit of info on Doug Perry's journalism.  He is the only journalist I know of from a major paper who is still consistently writing articles.

Any idea when you would release the new edition? 
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