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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 09:05:19 PM »
Don't put words in my mouth either...

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The larger point is that this probably answers how the initial search area was devised--again with no Air Force flight path in hand.

I've tried for several posts to tell this story. you guys keep shooting down things because of no map...you both said no map...no search worth value.

I pointed out reasons I believe they went forward with a search. they seem to be logical reasons. map or no map. I NEVER once claimed anyone had an agenda to anything nor did I imply anything of the sort! I responded to each question with my answers. that's like implying I have an agenda for the known flight path. that's wrong too! I'm looking for answers just as anyone else is. I rely on what is on the table and what needs to be removed from the table in order to change anything in that event. certain things are hard to remove IMO. until then I can only rely on the evidence in place. attacking data or comments do not suggest an agenda in my book.

It pisses me off hearing people accuse me of them having an agenda. Robert Blevins is famous for that. the only thing you will see me do with accusations is about lying. that statement really ticked me off...

Good nite
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on Today at 09:00:58 PM »
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Again, you guys are shooting them in the heart for not having a map ready in less than 12 hours? it's not 2019 where things can be brought forward in seconds to minutes? if this was a kid missing from a dive would you feel good telling the parents you have information on a possible area but have to wait on a map?

I don't get this at all...they were in the same area as the map and you scold them for trying prior to the map? how much more can we downplay events?

Let me clear because I'm tired of being told what I'm doing.

YOU. ARE. WRONG.

I am not complaining about anything. I was simply asking a question. That's it.

This is getting very frustrating. Am I not allowed to ask a question without being accused of having an agenda by someone?
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 08:59:37 PM »
I don't for see any good research in this with you guys. it's one thing after another...

Everyone is wrong and you guys are right....with that I'm out...
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on Today at 08:56:52 PM »
By the way, how does the lumbering 305 make the turn around PDX?
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 08:56:00 PM »
Again, you guys are shooting them in the heart for not having a map ready in less than 12 hours? it's not 2019 where things can be brought forward in seconds to minutes? if this was a kid missing from a dive would you feel good telling the parents you have information on a possible area but have to wait on a map?

I don't get this at all...they were in the same area as the map and you scold them for trying prior to the map? how much more can we downplay events?
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on Today at 08:50:32 PM »
Whatever. The document obviously doesn't mention looking to the NE or any another direction relative to the descent line.

The larger point is that this probably answers how the initial search area was devised--again with no Air Force flight path in hand.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 08:46:16 PM »
? really. no wind data from aviation stand points. accurate weather is KEY to aviation. again, NWO is in this game and knows what is needed. weather reports are transmitted so up to date weather can be received at any given time..
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by EU on Today at 08:34:56 PM »
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Here is a better copy...

A few observations regarding the document.

1) This is from Thanksgiving Day, therefore the flight path had not yet been plotted. I assume it was an initial dropzone roughly crafted.

2) It appears that it is describing a section of centerline V23. This would make sense inasmuch as they would assume the jet was flying V23.

3) No wind drift was factored into a search area. Indeed, if DBC no pulled there would not be much of a drift. Moreover, they probably didn't have much in terms of wind data at that time.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 08:21:26 PM »
We have a criminal running around with a possible explosive. waiting on a map doesn't appear to be the logical thing to do. the clock is ticking for escape. he has hours on them and appears to of as I have always said, caught them with there pants down. it appears they were working on it as I mentioned previously in locating a possible LZ.

I guess the question would be is how the next day search area is close to the Air Force map position? they don't show a jump time. only a path. one that's near the area in question?
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Shutter on Today at 08:12:19 PM »
Not sure about the I-S. makes no sense. it's about 5 miles east of I-5.
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