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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 11:52:30 PM »
Speaking of MH 370, Netflix has a new documentary series called "Airplane Disasters," and it re-enacts some of the most bizarre and transformative airplane crashes of recent history.  Most events I had never heard of.

I've thoroughly enjoyed the show - Season 1 has ten episodes, which translates to ten crashes.  I am very impressed with how fast a plane can disappear into the deep ocean, but even in the most extreme cases they portray wreckage was found floating on the surface - there are just too many things that float.

As for transformative accidents, these are the ones that trigger major reforms in procedures or technical improvements.  Delta 401 (?) was quite a  study in microburst activity and how to safely land a jet in most kinds of turbulent weather - even those events that only last for a couple of minutes, such as what happens routinely in the south during the summer with strong T-storms, wind sheers, cyclonic winds, etc.
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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2014, 11:53:54 PM »
Did someone say "The 5th Dimension"  8) ;D



 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2014, 12:01:34 AM »
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Bruce, hope all is well and that you are recovering in quick fashion.  Went back to some old e-mails and found this exchange with Skip P. a few years ago: 
"Skip, why isn't your photo alongside your co-author's, in your new book?"
"We never met."
"Are you going to meet?"
"Not if I can help it."
"Why not?"
"I suggest you ask Geoff Gray.  I'm sure that he speaks for both of us."
"So if your book doesn't sell, what's next for you?"
"Shut down my NY business. Oh, the Caribbean, maybe Mexico, or Canada.  Just get away from certain people."
"Yeah, I get it.  What if he stalks you?"
"Hey, I'm an ex-private dick.  I can handle the SOB."
"Well, have fun with that, Skip."
"None of it's fun, believe me.  He's nothing but a huge pain-in-the-ass."
"Ha.  No wonder YOU never posted at the DZ."
"I avoid anything to do with him, believe me, in public, in private, or in electronic statement."

It's the True Story, Bruce.  How a good, private detective from NY City accidentally hooked-up with a literary con-man
who disrespects all boundries.

I'm glad to know these details, Snoop. 

Shut, I feel this is a fair representation of the relationship between the two authors of Into the Blast. After all, regardless of how unpleasant some people are, they are also part of the Cooper story, and knowing the facts of their Cooper activity is a worthy subject for discussing.  That said, I agree that we need to be mindful of proper etiquette and not being destructive, merely informative.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 12:08:20 AM »
Slightly off-topic, but since this is St Patrick's Day, does anyone know if the Guinness that is sold in the USA is the same Guinness that is sold and consumed in Ireland?  Or does it have a different recipe and brewing style and brewed here in the States, or does it all get cooked in the Old Sod and shipped over and then chilled to American standards?

Just asking....

In the meantime, I'm letting my Guinness warm up to room temp to see if it tastes any better.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 12:15:53 AM »
understood, and thanks. as I mentioned, I feel it's a timing issue. I didn't make a big deal out of it, and agreed to leave the comment up. it's like you say "part of the Cooper story". I'm sure this will cause a stir, but in the same respect, as long as it is accurate it's solid proof of my feeling towards the relationship with the two I thought might of been occurring. it's bad enough arguing with him in the same room, I just don't like his problems here.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 04:45:48 AM »
Shutter/Bruce:  You know you have a great site going when people from the other site shift focus over to your site for the REAL news.   You guys are clever.   Must be a full 24/7 job for that "unnamed individual" to monitor both sites to see who is discussing what about him.   And you are right, everybody at both sites knows who the "unnamed individual" is.  His disrespectful reputation proceeds him at every corner.  {Shutter, he would pay you big $$$$ to post at your site].  Anyway, all true about Skip P.  A real gentleman, that fellow.  He knows he got stuck with a rotten one and he lives to regret it..................everyday.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 09:17:28 PM »
my intentions are not to shift people over here by talking about other posters on that forum. he posted the comment just as I assumed he would. I want this to be the end of the subject. I'm tired of having to go over there and make post after post with him. I don't want his involvement here. let him play over there. it will get him no where. I realize some of you think it's part of Cooper, but I would rather read about his failures over there. I would also like to see the emails in question if something like that is to be posted. I hope you can respect my thoughts about this in the future. I'm far from perfect myself. I have done similar things over there, but I validate what I say. I don't want the same thing happening over here that happens there. it's pretty simple. I think we are all guilty of this in one forum or another. I have the up most respect for all of you on here. I only ask for the same in return.

Lets get back to the subject at hand, whether it's the missing plane, or what ever you wish to discuss in this section.

I'm on a laptop, so if my post looks as funny as I see it (small screen)....it is what it is  8)
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 11:29:52 PM »
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Slightly off-topic, but since this is St Patrick's Day, does anyone know if the Guinness that is sold in the USA is the same Guinness that is sold and consumed in Ireland?  Or does it have a different recipe and brewing style and brewed here in the States, or does it all get cooked in the Old Sod and shipped over and then chilled to American standards?

Just asking....

In the meantime, I'm letting my Guinness warm up to room temp to see if it tastes any better.

Ahhh, the Guinness is much better!

As for discussions about Blevs and Jo, I am happy to leave them on the DZ.  That said, I do enjoy knowing about the details of their work with others, such as Blevs and Porteous, and how books on Cooper come into being.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2014, 02:57:18 AM »
I got an email from Sluggo saying that he would visit here at times, but that his overall interest in DB Cooper has waned.

He also said that he was giving his DB Cooper website a major over haul and update a bunch o' stuff.
 

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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2014, 06:11:30 PM »
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I got an email from Sluggo saying that he would visit here at times, but that his overall interest in DB Cooper has waned.

He also said that he was giving his DB Cooper website a major over haul and update a bunch o' stuff.

Good! Great hear know he's ok and still in the loop.  8)
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2014, 07:54:50 PM »
Bruce, wasn't that Guinness that you and I were drinking at that little Olympia dive bar?   I suggest that you bring Shutter up to WA state next summer.  We can all meet.  And I understand that 377 paid between $3500 and $8000 for a Tina bill?  Gosh, Brian could pay off his back alimony with a few more buyers like Mark.  {and I thought that was gonna be the going price for a "clean" bill}:)
btw, Skip told me that the reason he hooked-up with his co-author was purely for selfish reasons.  He could get his book published for free with little work involved and still have his name in the prime spot.  Geoff knew about this too and stated this about the co-author, "No comment!"  Now, Skip is in hiding.  But who the hell could blame him?  Taking cover seems the natural course, all things considered.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2014, 09:12:05 PM »
"I suggest that you bring Shutter up to WA state next summer.  We can all meet."

Sounds good to me. I would love to toss a few back with you guys. I've never been that far west believe it or not. been up and down the east coast.
 

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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2014, 09:56:43 PM »
ahhh, it will be good to have you up here in the Pacific Northwest, Shutter.  Bruce knows all the dive bars, where the micro beer is the best in the world.  We'll take you down to Tina's to meet the Fazios and show you a "few things."  Then we can all pile in the car and drive down to see my good friend Skip P. in CA.   He said we can stop by "anytime."  I've known Skip since 2008.  I asked Skip if that would cause a problem with his co-author and he assured me that he has a shed in the back where "that guy" will be staying, away from all the serious discussions.
 

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Update on bars, dive spots and micro brews
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2014, 10:19:54 PM »
Ahem, Galen, the Fish Tale Pub in Olympia, WA is not a dive bar.  It is a wonderful micro brew place that cooks its stuff right across the street.  The food is excellent, too.  I love their "bangers and mash," which is Brit sausage and mashed potatoes with garlic. They don't have Guinness, as their lineup is all their own stuff.  Besides the tastiest beer around they have a dozen or so fruit ciders that are delish.

So, c'mon up here, Shut, and we'll show you all the hot spots - like where DB Cooper walked out of the woods (smile), along with all the other authentic spots like the Ariel Tavern, TB and Tina's residence in 1979.
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Re: Cooper World Gossip (Request From Bruce Smith)
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 04:20:36 AM »
Sorry, Bruce.  I knew it was the "something tail" bar.  What year was that, anyway?  2010?  I might even be able to arrange for you and Shutter to get into the field office in Seattle to see the real stuff.  I was talking with my good friend Skip Porteous on the phone and was seeking his advice on marketing untattered $20 bills.  He invited me out to see him.  I might have you guys ride along with me.