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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Offline Shutter

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5520 on: September 12, 2020, 05:14:05 PM »
Yes, if you look at the site linked above you can change the diatoms...
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5521 on: September 12, 2020, 06:24:03 PM »
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A plot plan which is used to identify things for permitting. measurements are taken and recorded as well as the surroundings..they place the property line with a fence that can be seen on maps which they put at 71.7" you run that line out to the waterline and puts the property about 20 feet away from Fazio's property..the square structure close to the money location is labeled a "manufactured home" with a awning surrounding it 71' x 64'

Eric, isn't that about what Fazio claimed?

I not certain I understand everything written here. Nonetheless, the money find spot is about 20 feet from the property line. In fact, there is a gate on the old gravel road at the property line which is still in place. So, it is very easy to compare the property line with the money find spot.

In other words, the money was found on the Fazio's property about 20 feet from the property line with the neighbor to the north.

If you recall the FBI brought the Fazio down to the site and asked them where the property line was. It (the money find) was on the Fazio property, not on Hans Egger family of Vancouver property as alleged by the guy at DZ. Old news. Why this is all coming up now (controversy) is unknown. This is next to impossible to follow due to the tricks and hostility being conducted by poster at DZ - he mentioned where he got the Egger info then edited that line out .... something about  a reference in the bibliography at the Wiki DB Cooper site ?  Its probably in another newspaper article he found somewhere ...  this war going on between people here and people at DZ is really taking a toll!

Newspaper articles are notoriously UNRELIABLE and yet people still use them to make claims@!

What is the distance in the background shown on this photo from Kaye. 400, 500, 1000 yards or more?  Is the location of the 1974 dredging spoil site shown in the background of this photo?

 
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5522 on: September 12, 2020, 06:36:54 PM »
A distance can be found since a valley is shown..where it starts to curve back going south is where the northern spoil would of been..1980, the spoil is long gone..
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5523 on: September 12, 2020, 06:42:07 PM »
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A distance can be found since a valley is shown..where it starts to curve back going south is where the northern spoil would of been..1980, the spoil is long gone..

I realise the spoil is long gone but can the location be seen in this photo - what distance to the south does this photo show?  I have a reason for asking...
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5524 on: September 12, 2020, 06:54:05 PM »
see that hump close to the water in the background...I believe that is a boat..it would be just beyond that point..
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5525 on: September 12, 2020, 06:57:31 PM »
probably 3-500 feet at a quick guess?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5526 on: September 12, 2020, 06:58:26 PM »
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see that hump close to the water in the background...I believe that is a boat..it would be just beyond that point..

this thing in red circle? so that is Toms' 400 yards plus ?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5527 on: September 12, 2020, 06:59:08 PM »
That might be a person lol, don't know..I see a few people down there...probably agents snooping around.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5528 on: September 12, 2020, 07:01:11 PM »
400 yards? that a hell of a long ways away...
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5529 on: September 12, 2020, 07:02:15 PM »
The dip inwards should be around the center of the pencil mark the FBI made on the 79 map..

I don't think it's a boat (hump) there is another person visible beside the circle you made..
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5530 on: September 13, 2020, 12:00:13 AM »
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The dip inwards should be around the center of the pencil mark the FBI made on the 79 map..

I don't think it's a boat (hump) there is another person visible beside the circle you made..

I can count 6-8 grid spaces in this photo going to south ... only five months separates Tom's 1980 photo from the USGS Sept 29 1979 photo. I see no strong changes in water line contour in the USGS photo that I see in the 1980 excavation photos - why?  Something is misleading or wrong. The 79 USGS photo shows a nearly straight line path from thesouth end of the Fazio property to the find site and beyond. No obvious obstruction for current debris to have to negotiate when moving down the beach with the current.

Oh well. More time wasted. The Guy at DZ now says "The case is solved - I was right all along".   
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5531 on: September 13, 2020, 12:09:32 AM »
You can see the inland section on the 79 photo..it's right above the north circle you put on the pic..it looks different from the ground..
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5532 on: September 13, 2020, 12:12:07 AM »
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You can see the inland section on the 79 photo..it's right above the north circle you put on the pic..it looks different from the ground..

yes I wondered about that too = you may be exactly right. Different perspectives.... I think you are right but camera angles also can give a wrong perspective, as in the Brian photos.

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5533 on: September 13, 2020, 01:34:46 AM »
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The dip inwards should be around the center of the pencil mark the FBI made on the 79 map..

I don't think it's a boat (hump) there is another person visible beside the circle you made..

I can count 6-8 grid spaces in this photo going to south ... only five months separates Tom's 1980 photo from the USGS Sept 29 1979 photo. I see no strong changes in water line contour in the USGS photo that I see in the 1980 excavation photos - why?  Something is misleading or wrong. The 79 USGS photo shows a nearly straight line path from thesouth end of the Fazio property to the find site and beyond. No obvious obstruction for current debris to have to negotiate when moving down the beach with the current.

Oh well. More time wasted. The Guy at DZ now says "The case is solved - I was right all along".

That truck parked in the woods just above the two fellows that are kneeling appears to be parked at the intersection of the road or berm that heads northeast and is north of the containment pond.  The "indention" in the shore line appears to be due west of that parked truck. The "indention" in the shore line may be more obvious in the picture that was made at ground level and maybe with a telephoto lens but it is also visible in the aerial photo.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5534 on: September 13, 2020, 01:37:50 AM »
I would bet a telephoto lens.....wonder what caused the large tree branch to break so high above the ground? just thinking out loud..

all the photo's have a depth perception issue it appears...things look very close that are not..
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