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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4110 on: October 11, 2018, 11:48:10 PM »
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I will have to find it...I'll get it tomorrow...trying to resolve the server issues...

I have the pdf of all of Ckret's posts - it should be there in 2007 ??

I am regretting we didnt make a record of Ckret's calls to the bank employee in 2009/2010? It almost has to have been then and not later. Kaye was in Seattle doing his work there in 2010 I believe. Its all history now. 
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4111 on: October 11, 2018, 11:49:46 PM »
It's missing some of his comments..I noticed that some time ago...
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4112 on: October 11, 2018, 11:55:34 PM »
It was May of 2008...I was going by the comments made by safe...

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4113 on: October 12, 2018, 01:29:05 AM »
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It was May of 2008...I was going by the comments made by safe...

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This info at the time May 08 came from the fellow who carried the money - says he was in the vault : [he recounted that they were in the vault running the money through the counting machine and strapping the bundles...]. Ckret's other conversation was with the Security manager which happened on another date?  Then a third conversation still later with the bank employee who actually assembled the bundles. So, the topic was well-covered between all of these witnesses.

Files Tom found in Seattle document most of this. This explains why Tom has the same basic corroborating info...

The story of the employee who actually assembled the bundles also happens in the vault at the tray coming off the counting machine. He and another employee took bills off the line, noted serial numbers, notated the start and stop numbers for each bundle off the master list (which allows the FBI to compile a numeric list later), and stuffed everything into a common bank bag.

All of the bills in the emergency fund in random order to begin with, no paper straps on any of the bills in the emergency fund as per orders from the Security Dept, and one or two rubber bands placed on each bundle... all a rushed job.

Had the bank ever filled orders of this kind before in other crimes? For FBI etc. They obviously had a procedure already in place. 

   
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4114 on: October 12, 2018, 11:19:14 AM »
Perhaps a conflation of three separate events.. by different people.

To maintain the integrity of the sequence which the FBI used to curate the ransom bill list:

The money was always random circulated bills.

Event 1 - The money was assembled and run through the Recordak well before NORJAK $230,000 in $20's. (Strapped in 100's to maintain order, paper vs rubber not important)

Event 2 - The money was assembled for Norjak.

If Ckret is (referencing) "bundles" as groups of packets not individual packets, it makes perfect sense. He assumed "packets".

Ckret..

"The money was provided by Seafirst bank which is now Bank of America. The money had been earmarked for situations such as these and was always on hand. It had been photographed and serial numbers recorded by their security so the FBI did none of this.

The money was then transported by SeaFirst bank security to a Seattle police detective who then drove it to the airport and handed over to NWA. The money was bundled in various counts so that no bundle was the same. Each bundle was secured by rubber band and different counts so that it appeared the money was hastily gathered."


Event 3 - The start/stop or first/last bill serial number for ONLY the 15 packets of 100 x $20 bills that were left behind were noted and sent to the FBI to be marked and deducted with all bills in between from the original Recordak micro list.



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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4115 on: October 16, 2018, 07:55:20 PM »
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4116 on: October 16, 2018, 08:14:19 PM »
The Bank assembled an emergency fund of $250k and recorded all the bill serial numbers well before NORAK.
The Bank assembled the ransom of $200k in $20's for NORJAK - 15 packets x 100 x $20 bills were left behind.
The Bank sent the original Micro of all $250k to the FBI. ($20k in 10's, so ignored)
The Bank recorded the top and bottom bill serial number for the 15 packets NOT given to Cooper. Those 15 sets (start/stop) of bill numbers were sent to the FBI to be deducted with all bills in between from the original Micro list.

There is an error in the serial number list to be deducted (red arrow).

The Bank later sent a Micro list of $300k bill serial numbers to the FBI, noting the range of the serial numbers to be deducted.

The first range matches some start/stop bill numbers (green dot/yellow dot), the second range does not (blue dots).

How does the bank micro go from $250k (emergency fund) to $300k and why did the bill range change, that makes no sense.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4117 on: October 16, 2018, 08:16:49 PM »
did you type that out or did the copy/paste fail?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4118 on: October 16, 2018, 08:18:50 PM »
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did you type that out or did the copy/paste fail?

copy/paste failed had to retype text
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4119 on: October 16, 2018, 08:24:54 PM »
Roger....service ticket sent...
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« Reply #4120 on: October 16, 2018, 09:27:14 PM »
On Feb. 10, 1980, 8-year-old Brian Ingram and his family were picnicking by the Columbia River near Vancouver, Wash., when Brian found a clue to a real-life mystery story that had been written shortly after he was born. While clearing a spot for a camp fire, "I got down to use my hand and arm to scoop the sand clear," recalls Brian, now 15. "I hit this sort of lump and dug it out. I wasn't excited at all at first, then I brushed the sand off, and it was money!"

The soggy, semisolidified packet of 299 identifiable $20 bills turned out to be the only tangible evidence ever recovered from the 1971 hijacking and ransoming of a Northwest Orient Airlines 727 by an unidentified man who came to be known as D.B. Cooper. With $200,000 in $20s, Cooper had parachuted out of the back of the plane at night over heavily wooded country somewhere in southwestern Washington and was never seen again.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4121 on: October 16, 2018, 09:28:23 PM »
I see it worked for you but others, including myself can't do this at the moment?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4122 on: October 16, 2018, 09:31:06 PM »
second attempt from the Washington post gives this error...

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Note: It appears that your database may require an upgrade. Your forum's files are currently at version SMF 2.0.11, while your database is at version 2.0.7. The above error might possibly go away if you execute the latest version of upgrade.php.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4123 on: October 16, 2018, 11:16:14 PM »
packets of bundles of packets must = packages of packets of bundles of packets ?

Could we call them Tundles?

just ch4ecking ...   

when does a bundle become a packet become a package? Since it is claimed these are all OFFICIAL BANKING TERMS
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4124 on: October 17, 2018, 12:11:49 PM »
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packets of bundles of packets must = packages of packets of bundles of packets ?

Could we call them Tundles?

just ch4ecking ...   

when does a bundle become a packet become a package? Since it is claimed these are all OFFICIAL BANKING TERMS

why don't you read the FBI files... the "Bank" refers to 100's as packets, not bundles

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