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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4050 on: October 06, 2018, 12:41:24 AM »
we also have this statement...
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4051 on: October 06, 2018, 01:04:19 AM »
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they way I see all of this each talk is that nobody really knows how the money got on the beach...that's the whole problem...

It was buried by a guy named Sheridan Peterson on the evening of Wednesday, November 24, 1971. 8)
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4052 on: October 06, 2018, 12:44:01 PM »
This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4053 on: October 06, 2018, 01:50:07 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

And this matters why?

Because Physics works differently on packets than it does on bundles? Or inside packets vs,. inside bundles?

And you say the paper straps dissolved also - leaving no trace, not even a shadow, not even a memory ! The people who processed the money were struck by Paper Strap Alzheimer's! That includes people at the bank, people in NWO Shipping Dept, all FBI agents, and the FBI itself. It was the largest case of    Paper Strap Alzheimer's!  in the history of the world.

« Last Edit: October 06, 2018, 02:11:15 PM by georger »
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4054 on: October 06, 2018, 02:38:10 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

I meant to ask this months ago but got sidetracked...

Flyjack, what do you make of Geoff Gray's statement about the Ingram money, that Tom Kaye had found "two types of silver in the money" ?

 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4055 on: October 06, 2018, 02:45:46 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

I meant to ask this months ago but got sidetracked...

Flyjack, what do you make of Schreuder's remark that part of a briefcase was found at Tina Bar ?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4056 on: October 06, 2018, 02:48:44 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

I meant to ask this months ago but got sidetracked...

Flyjack, what do you make of Crystal Ingram's statement that the Ingram find occurred in a different location?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4057 on: October 06, 2018, 02:50:53 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

I meant to ask this months ago but got sidetracked...

Flyjack, what do you make of the Palmer Report ?  Was his id of strata correct?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4058 on: October 06, 2018, 03:16:33 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

And this matters why?

Because Physics works differently on packets than it does on bundles? Or inside packets vs,. inside bundles?

And you say the paper straps dissolved also - leaving no trace, not even a shadow, not even a memory ! The people who processed the money were struck by Paper Strap Alzheimer's! That includes people at the bank, people in NWO Shipping Dept, all FBI agents, and the FBI itself. It was the largest case of    Paper Strap Alzheimer's!  in the history of the world.

Is your denial phase finally over,, are we now on your "it doesn't matter anyway phase.."

It does matter, if the 3 packets landed "separately" they had to arrive in a container or personally dropped/placed. It severely restricts the means by which they could have arrived.

If they were all part of a single rubber banded bundle the means expand. This is a big deal.

The paper vs rubber bands debate doesn't impact this at all.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2018, 03:17:30 PM by FLYJACK »
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4059 on: October 07, 2018, 12:11:44 AM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

And this matters why?

Because Physics works differently on packets than it does on bundles? Or inside packets vs,. inside bundles?

And you say the paper straps dissolved also - leaving no trace, not even a shadow, not even a memory ! The people who processed the money were struck by Paper Strap Alzheimer's! That includes people at the bank, people in NWO Shipping Dept, all FBI agents, and the FBI itself. It was the largest case of    Paper Strap Alzheimer's!  in the history of the world.

Is your denial phase finally over,, are we now on your "it doesn't matter anyway phase.."

It does matter, if the 3 packets landed "separately" they had to arrive in a container or personally dropped/placed. It severely restricts the means by which they could have arrived.

If they were all part of a single rubber banded bundle the means expand. This is a big deal.

The paper vs rubber bands debate doesn't impact this at all.

Your jocular attitude belies the fact your claims are all crap.

You do value personal victories and personal attacks (any way you can get them!) over fact based contributions to the Cooper case.

Present your laboratory results for anything you have said. Have you got a lab or lab results? Of course not. All you have is an ATTITUDE and due to the nature of this forum you are allowed broad latitude in getting away with your baseless "Attucks".

Fortunately there people around you pay no attention to your tantrums.  You will never be a recognized contributor to the Cooper case.  People at DZ had your number clear back in 2013 ... Bulljax.

It really is a shame you have to divert and waste this forums time, at the expense of real contributions to the Cooper case. Your socalled work is a sham, in my opinion. You have ignored all remarks and questions posed by me, Shutter, EU, and others just as you ignored people at Dropzone in 2013. That speaks for what you are doing. It's totally obvious you are more interested in having a social-political effect, than doing anything of any real value in the Cooper case. I seriously doubt you even have the qualifications or the support system to back up anything you are saying. If and when you do, let us know! But Im not holding my breath.

So Bigshot! Show us any evidence of paper bands on this bill - from your laboratories' forensic work, of course! Show us your photos of the Cooper bills! From your lab of course. Your lab next to your Erector Set and your case of Red Bull energy drinks, Bulljax ?   

 :chr2:
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #4060 on: October 07, 2018, 02:18:25 AM »
"Flyjack, what do you make of Geoff Gray's statement about the Ingram money, that Tom Kaye had found "two types of silver in the money" ?"

If I recall correctly, Gray said you told him there was a second form of silver in the bills, not Tom Kaye. The passage sent me on a wild goose chase to form a theory on how. Is that not correct?
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« Reply #4061 on: October 07, 2018, 05:12:13 AM »
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"Flyjack, what do you make of Geoff Gray's statement about the Ingram money, that Tom Kaye had found "two types of silver in the money" ?"

If I recall correctly, Gray said you told him there was a second form of silver in the bills, not Tom Kaye. The passage sent me on a wild goose chase to form a theory on how. Is that not correct?

Gray has no technical background. He did not get the hint I was delivering!. I could have as easily said: "There are five thousand types of silver in the money".  ;)  Gray was skeptical anything was being done in the analysis of the money and contacted me for any news; he was fishing for a progress report to have something to print so I gave him a metaphor to chew on. I told him to contact Tom Kaye if he wanted further details. That is also still true today.

Why would this send you on a wild goose chase? Who are you? Were you working on a book about Cooper money too with a tight publishing date anxious for news ? 

This is ancient news - it was all explained on Dropzone - do a search there.
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« Reply #4062 on: October 07, 2018, 12:19:31 PM »
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"Flyjack, what do you make of Geoff Gray's statement about the Ingram money, that Tom Kaye had found "two types of silver in the money" ?"

If I recall correctly, Gray said you told him there was a second form of silver in the bills, not Tom Kaye. The passage sent me on a wild goose chase to form a theory on how. Is that not correct?

Gray has no technical background. He did not get the hint I was delivering!. I could have as easily said: "There are five thousand types of silver in the money".  ;)  Gray was skeptical anything was being done in the analysis of the money and contacted me for any news; he was fishing for a progress report to have something to print so I gave him a metaphor to chew on. I told him to contact Tom Kaye if he wanted further details. That is also still true today.

Why would this send you on a wild goose chase? Who are you? Were you working on a book about Cooper money too with a tight publishing date anxious for news ? 

This is ancient news - it was all explained on Dropzone - do a search there.

Do you hate writers? I love writing. I have never done it for a living but would love to. Why would you mess with Gray's work by not being clear? That threw his readers - me being one of them - for a loop.

My abandoned second silver theory went like this:

- Silver Nitrate mixes with salt in the immediate area to form Silver Chloride
- The Silver Chloride then turns to metallic silver as light penetrates the sand near the surface
- a weak electrical current in the ground could theoretically turn the metallic silver ionic, making it soluble.
- simple diffusion over time could have distributed ionic silver into the bills when the ground was moist.

Yes, I wasted time on this.

I also wasted time tracking down a medallion with McCoy's initials on it that didn't exist, thanks to Bob Knoss.
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« Reply #4063 on: October 07, 2018, 12:42:46 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

And this matters why?

Because Physics works differently on packets than it does on bundles? Or inside packets vs,. inside bundles?

And you say the paper straps dissolved also - leaving no trace, not even a shadow, not even a memory ! The people who processed the money were struck by Paper Strap Alzheimer's! That includes people at the bank, people in NWO Shipping Dept, all FBI agents, and the FBI itself. It was the largest case of    Paper Strap Alzheimer's!  in the history of the world.

Is your denial phase finally over,, are we now on your "it doesn't matter anyway phase.."

It does matter, if the 3 packets landed "separately" they had to arrive in a container or personally dropped/placed. It severely restricts the means by which they could have arrived.

If they were all part of a single rubber banded bundle the means expand. This is a big deal.

The paper vs rubber bands debate doesn't impact this at all.

Your jocular attitude belies the fact your claims are all crap.

You do value personal victories and personal attacks (any way you can get them!) over fact based contributions to the Cooper case.

Present your laboratory results for anything you have said. Have you got a lab or lab results? Of course not. All you have is an ATTITUDE and due to the nature of this forum you are allowed broad latitude in getting away with your baseless "Attucks".

Fortunately there people around you pay no attention to your tantrums.  You will never be a recognized contributor to the Cooper case.  People at DZ had your number clear back in 2013 ... Bulljax.

It really is a shame you have to divert and waste this forums time, at the expense of real contributions to the Cooper case. Your socalled work is a sham, in my opinion. You have ignored all remarks and questions posed by me, Shutter, EU, and others just as you ignored people at Dropzone in 2013. That speaks for what you are doing. It's totally obvious you are more interested in having a social-political effect, than doing anything of any real value in the Cooper case. I seriously doubt you even have the qualifications or the support system to back up anything you are saying. If and when you do, let us know! But Im not holding my breath.

So Bigshot! Show us any evidence of paper bands on this bill - from your laboratories' forensic work, of course! Show us your photos of the Cooper bills! From your lab of course. Your lab next to your Erector Set and your case of Red Bull energy drinks, Bulljax ?   

 :chr2:

Nasty and delusional little fellow.. again with the name calling...

You repeatedly ignore the CLEAR contradiction and do nothing but try to discredit me for pointing it out with false accusations, strawman args and personal attacks..

Can you reconcile the TBAR money contradiction? I don't really expect an answer from you...
 

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« Reply #4064 on: October 07, 2018, 02:45:53 PM »
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This is the timeline... the terminology and paper/rubber bands is not part of this issue.

There is a clear inconsistency.


Bank sets aside emergency fund of $250,000, $230,000 is in $20x100 packets circulated, random non sequential. (the remainder in $10's)
The entire fund is recorded via micro in order.

Money is requested for NORJAK ransom.
Bank employee takes $200,000 in $20x100 packets and randomizes/resizes and rubber bands “bundles” to make it appear hastily gathered. $30,000 in $20’s is left behind = 15 packets..
Bank employee puts in bag sends to plane.
Tina handles money makes controversial bank-style bands claim.

The Bank informs the FBI that the money was in packets/packages of $20x100 and paper bank banded.
To curate an accurate bill list, the Bank gives the FBI the start/stop numbers of the 15 packets/packages left behind from the emergency fund. (This 100% confirms that the money was in packets/packages of 100’s when the Bank employee grabbed the money)

Brian Ingram finds 3 separate packets/packages with brittle/crumbling rubber band fragments attached.
The location of the rubber bands is not clear or in evidence.

The TBAR money is determined to be 3x100x$20 packets/packages in the same order as the bank micro. (prior to the Bank employee randomizing/resizing)


If the TBAR money was in 100’s and in order then how is that possible if the Bank employee randomized/resized and rubber banded them. It isn’t.


Answer consistent with the evidence:
The Bank Employee randomized/resized and rubber banded the “bundles” - groups of packets/packages not the individual packets/packages.

and that means the 3 TBAR packets were part of a single rubber banded bundle. (if packets were paper or rubber banded)

And this matters why?

Because Physics works differently on packets than it does on bundles? Or inside packets vs,. inside bundles?

And you say the paper straps dissolved also - leaving no trace, not even a shadow, not even a memory ! The people who processed the money were struck by Paper Strap Alzheimer's! That includes people at the bank, people in NWO Shipping Dept, all FBI agents, and the FBI itself. It was the largest case of    Paper Strap Alzheimer's!  in the history of the world.

Is your denial phase finally over,, are we now on your "it doesn't matter anyway phase.."

It does matter, if the 3 packets landed "separately" they had to arrive in a container or personally dropped/placed. It severely restricts the means by which they could have arrived.

If they were all part of a single rubber banded bundle the means expand. This is a big deal.

The paper vs rubber bands debate doesn't impact this at all.

Your jocular attitude belies the fact your claims are all crap.

You do value personal victories and personal attacks (any way you can get them!) over fact based contributions to the Cooper case.

Present your laboratory results for anything you have said. Have you got a lab or lab results? Of course not. All you have is an ATTITUDE and due to the nature of this forum you are allowed broad latitude in getting away with your baseless "Attucks".

Fortunately there people around you pay no attention to your tantrums.  You will never be a recognized contributor to the Cooper case.  People at DZ had your number clear back in 2013 ... Bulljax.

It really is a shame you have to divert and waste this forums time, at the expense of real contributions to the Cooper case. Your socalled work is a sham, in my opinion. You have ignored all remarks and questions posed by me, Shutter, EU, and others just as you ignored people at Dropzone in 2013. That speaks for what you are doing. It's totally obvious you are more interested in having a social-political effect, than doing anything of any real value in the Cooper case. I seriously doubt you even have the qualifications or the support system to back up anything you are saying. If and when you do, let us know! But Im not holding my breath.

So Bigshot! Show us any evidence of paper bands on this bill - from your laboratories' forensic work, of course! Show us your photos of the Cooper bills! From your lab of course. Your lab next to your Erector Set and your case of Red Bull energy drinks, Bulljax ?   

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Nasty and delusional little fellow.. again with the name calling...

You repeatedly ignore the CLEAR contradiction and do nothing but try to discredit me for pointing it out with false accusations, strawman args and personal attacks..

Can you reconcile the TBAR money contradiction? I don't really expect an answer from you...

No I cannot reconcile the socalled "TBAR money contradiction" because there is no contradiction. It is simply your invention.

As for your name calling. That defines you and your argument.  Nothing ever changes with Bulljax the Red Bull Energy Drink guy. You havent changed a bit since surfacing at DZ in 2013. You are just another blip in the Cooper media circus.