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Been going through the last few pages on this thread. So if I missed it for give me.
All the bills at Tina Bar were found with rubber bands, not those paper "bank bands" correct?

Ingrams took the money home and claimed "rubber bands around the packages", they broke apart. No evidence of bank bands.

This conflicts with Tina and bank letter to FBI both claiming bank bands..  However, bank bands may have deteriorated very quickly or were somehow missing from that bundle... just another contradiction in the Cooper Vortex.

That's what I assumed: another contradiction adding to those already there. Not done on purpose but human perception.

Took some screen grabs of a video I have,,


First pic of bundle is NOT termite damage but from water damage, it is hard like a brick and interesting to see the rubber bands.

The other two pics are termite damage only, dry environment.. (not water, not buried)

Looks similar to these..
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What about silverfish damage? I just searched "insects that eat ink" because the outside edges have more ink on them in the US $20 than the inside part. Or perhaps an insect similar to silverfish. I haven't found a photo yet that shows how they would affect money bundles (which are not exactly paper). This shows a book: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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There are also other insects in the same family that have the same preferences. In homes they prefer cellars, basements, attics, tubs, sinks - dark, damp areas.

Just throwing it out there.

Quick question: were the rubber bands just plain rubber bands, or those Scrooge McDuck-looking wide things? I've been assuming the former as the money was to look hastily assembled. My computer died, so may not be on here much for a bit. Hope all are well.

Fragment photos from KATU video...

Where did the band fragments go ? None ever seen by anyone but the Inrams? None ever found? None in the evidence folders? Where did the bands go! Any traces of bands seen here on Ingram bills? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

SEM of fresh new bank band of type used on Cooper money - high mag image is in artificial color.
 

There is something so difficult and totally imponderable about the Ingram rubber band story, that it may be that a NASA Challenger type panel may be required to get to the bottom of this very very difficult paradox. So few see the paradox that it gets quoted over and over and over again.

Tom Kaye states the alleged facts on his web page. Quoting:

'When the three bundles of D.B. Cooper money was uncovered on Tena Bar by Brian Ingram in February 1980, the rubber bands were still intact and crumbled when touched.  [1]. FBI Transcript:  ‘The boy turned up three bundles of money wrapped with rubber bands … The money was badly decomposed and was held together with rubber bands which were so old they crumbled away immediately upon handling."

Still intact. Crumbled when touched.
Wrapped with rubber bands. Held together with rubber bands. Crumbled away immediately upon handling.

Since they were still intact, that means they still encompassed all sides of each bundle. Except the sides did not exist! The sides were missing having eroded a long time ago.

Bundles were Held together. By bands so old and decayed (dried out) that they crumbled away upon handling.

In other words a thing that does not exist, exists!

Anyone care to enlist their help in the NASA Rubber Band Investigation Panel?

Oh! Here is a photo of one the bills the rubber bands were wrapped around and holding together.

As the King of Siam once said: "Tis a puzzlement."

Common logic goes a long way in this. Its no negative reflection on the Ingrams. They said what they had to say, knew to say, and it reflects to some extent what they saw and did. I have no doubt whatever they picked pieces of dried bands off some surfaces of a few bills, and saw those pieces easily. But bands were not holding the money together. Sediments were holding the bills together, more or less. And they said: 'the find came out in pieces'. So several groups of bills came out ... the "little driftwoods"?

Beyond that myth takes over. It all makes perfect sense and paints a consistent and accurate portrait of the found money ... right up to the groups you see on the table at the Portland press conference. The money, the bands ... the whole thing could not be more consistent.

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Took some screen grabs of a video I have,,


First pic of bundle is NOT termite damage but from water damage, it is hard like a brick and interesting to see the rubber bands.

The other two pics are termite damage only, dry environment.. (not water, not buried)

Looks similar to these..
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What about silverfish damage? I just searched "insects that eat ink" because the outside edges have more ink on them in the US $20 than the inside part. Or perhaps an insect similar to silverfish. I haven't found a photo yet that shows how they would affect money bundles (which are not exactly paper). This shows a book: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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There are also other insects in the same family that have the same preferences. In homes they prefer cellars, basements, attics, tubs, sinks - dark, damp areas.

Just throwing it out there.

Quick question: were the rubber bands just plain rubber bands, or those Scrooge McDuck-looking wide things? I've been assuming the former as the money was to look hastily assembled. My computer died, so may not be on here much for a bit. Hope all are well.

Looking at many TBAR bills, silverfish (or firebrat) hole damage looks more consistent with the damage, though there is a small species of termite that is still in play. I thought perhaps the insect damage could have occurred during FBI storage, but looking close in hi res the hole edges aren't fresh enough.

If it is Silverfish damage (possibly termite) then the bills were likely stored in a human dwelling for a time before ending up on TBAR. The interior hole damage is consistent with insect damage, the exterior bill damage with insect and mostly sand erosion.

If there was Silverfish damage prior to the bundles landing on TBAR then the hole edges would begin to deteriorate..

There are many TBAR bills that show this type of interior damage.

Image: TBAR bill and paper with silverfish damage

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Took some screen grabs of a video I have,,


First pic of bundle is NOT termite damage but from water damage, it is hard like a brick and interesting to see the rubber bands.

The other two pics are termite damage only, dry environment.. (not water, not buried)

Looks similar to these..
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What about silverfish damage? I just searched "insects that eat ink" because the outside edges have more ink on them in the US $20 than the inside part. Or perhaps an insect similar to silverfish. I haven't found a photo yet that shows how they would affect money bundles (which are not exactly paper). This shows a book: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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There are also other insects in the same family that have the same preferences. In homes they prefer cellars, basements, attics, tubs, sinks - dark, damp areas.

Just throwing it out there.

Quick question: were the rubber bands just plain rubber bands, or those Scrooge McDuck-looking wide things? I've been assuming the former as the money was to look hastily assembled. My computer died, so may not be on here much for a bit. Hope all are well.

Looking at many TBAR bills, silverfish (or firebrat) hole damage looks more consistent with the damage, though there is a small species of termite that is still in play. I thought perhaps the insect damage could have occurred during FBI storage, but looking close in hi res the hole edges aren't fresh enough.

If it is Silverfish damage (possibly termite) then the bills were likely stored in a human dwelling for a time before ending up on TBAR. The interior hole damage is consistent with insect damage, the exterior bill damage with insect and mostly sand erosion.

If there was Silverfish damage prior to the bundles landing on TBAR then the hole edges would begin to deteriorate..

There are many TBAR bills that show this type of interior damage.

Image: TBAR bill and paper with silverfish damage

Your last theory was 'termites'. You were sure it was termites.

You evidently reject Tom's bacteria thesis, on his website.

I read Tom's bacteria thesis and it is not inconsistent with old insect damage.