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Title: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Shutter on September 30, 2019, 07:35:59 PM
new thread
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on September 30, 2019, 08:51:40 PM
Congrats to Darren. His podcasts not only kick ass, but they also serve to create an important permanent record. Great job Darren!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on September 30, 2019, 11:43:44 PM
Good luck to Darren.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on October 01, 2019, 01:22:24 PM
I'm honored to have earned my own thread at The DB Cooper Forum. Thank you.

 :chr2:
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on October 16, 2019, 09:01:40 PM
Our latest episode is out now!

DB Cooper was a Railroader with the anonymous Army analyst that uncovered William J Smith.

Its a great episode, I know you guys will enjoy it.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-a-railroader-anonymous/

Check it out!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Parrotheadvol on October 18, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
I'll give it listen on my trip to Ohio next week.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on October 20, 2019, 05:34:05 AM
More kudos to Darren.

I just received my copy of Nat Loufoque's book on E Howard Hunt, titled: DB Cooper - Examined, Identified, and Exposed.

Darren's podcast with Nat is informative and intriguing, whereas Nat's book is a Hot Mess. It's barely readable, literally. The margins are WAY TOO narrow, and every page is a nightmare to read. Worse, most of the chapters are fillers. Worst, Nat opts to add his own speculative notions to what DB Cooper was thinking, feeling etc. Nat even says that while waiting for Flight 305 to board DB Cooper itched with pain due to an ulcer.

Nat, YOUGOTTABEKIDDINGME. C'mon, man. Next time you wanna write about DB Cooper, why don't you talk to some of us who have been reading, writing, and researching this fellow for awhile and have an advanced, considered view on who the guy really was.

One more thing. If you're gonna use my writing on Cooper in your book, please ask me for permission - or at least give me a heads-up. Thanks. Seeing my stuff in someone else's book without direct accreditation makes me cranky...
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on October 20, 2019, 05:37:10 AM
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Our latest episode is out now!

DB Cooper was a Railroader with the anonymous Army analyst that uncovered William J Smith.

Its a great episode, I know you guys will enjoy it.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-a-railroader-anonymous/

Check it out!

This researcher has been in contact with me from time to time. I consider his theories to be sound and thoughtful. However, the research is a bit thin in places, but overall, the fellow Darren interviews is a decent guy.

I'll be listening, too!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: 377 on October 22, 2019, 01:20:51 PM
You are an asset to the Vortex Darren. Keep up the good work.

377
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on November 09, 2019, 11:14:45 AM
Our latest episode is out now. DB Cooper was a Priest with Gregg Gossett.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-a-priest/

Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: David on November 27, 2019, 11:05:14 AM
I just listened to the Barb Dayton podcast, which I enjoyed.  I picked that one first because I have a trans-male son. 

Barb sounds like somebody described to me by an older transmale (female to male) in his 60's.  He talked about a transfemale that became a biker and hung around with the HA.  This came out of a discussion about how acceptance of people comes from strange places, in that bikers at the time were quite accepting of different people, including trans-people.  Or maybe he read the book your podcast guests wrote and was just repeating the story.


Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on November 27, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
I'll have to listen to the Formans' podcast and refresh my memory of Bob and Barb Dayton's exploits.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on December 18, 2019, 11:17:01 PM
Two new episodes up tonight! One is DB Cooper was a Sport Parachutist with Mark Metzler, who even threw in a DB Cooper Forum plug, and the other episode is my speech from the latest CooperCon.

Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Lynn on December 19, 2019, 02:40:47 PM
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Two new episodes up tonight! One is DB Cooper was a Sport Parachutist with Mark Metzler, who even threw in a DB Cooper Forum plug, and the other episode is my speech from the latest CooperCon.

Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
Listening now - much easier listening than some of the podcasts I've been listening to on the William Desmond Taylor case. You both sound very professional and keep to the topics, completely lucid and Darren is an excellent interviewer - not grandstanding but asking what people want to know in a concise manner. Lovely to hear 377's always clear and useful insights. Will check out the Cooper Con speech next, wish I could have been there. Sounds like it was fun.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Parrotheadvol on December 20, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
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Two new episodes up tonight! One is DB Cooper was a Sport Parachutist with Mark Metzler, who even threw in a DB Cooper Forum plug, and the other episode is my speech from the latest CooperCon.

Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
Listening now - much easier listening than some of the podcasts I've been listening to on the William Desmond Taylor case. You both sound very professional and keep to the topics, completely lucid and Darren is an excellent interviewer - not grandstanding but asking what people want to know in a concise manner. Lovely to hear 377's always clear and useful insights. Will check out the Cooper Con speech next, wish I could have been there. Sounds like it was fun.

I gave the one with 377 a listen yesterday as I was driving home from Arkansas. Other than the Tom Kaye episode, this was probably my favorite. I'll check the other one out on my next road trip.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on February 21, 2020, 09:15:25 PM
Russell and I are back to work after the holidays and my move from Boise to Denver. We recorded two episodes this week! One of them features a member of this forum too.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on February 26, 2020, 08:31:25 PM
Our latest episode is up now! DB Cooper is Still Missing with Ross Richardson. Some of you may know Ross from this forum as NMIWrecks. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-still-missing-ross-richardson/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on February 27, 2020, 03:58:13 AM
Ah..... the grocery store manager who disappeared from northern Michigan with a young honey bun in tow, bound for Mexico.... good tale.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on March 09, 2020, 07:42:16 PM
Finally covering John List as a potential suspect with author Joe Sharkey. DB Cooper Didn't Murder His Family. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-did-not-murder-his-family-joe-sharkey/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on March 20, 2020, 10:47:24 PM
VERY COOL ANNOUNCEMENT

I approached Darren Schaefer today about the prospect of quickly putting together a podcast called the “DB Cooper BS Session” whereby we get a few people together to discuss the Cooper case and other fun subjects in a light-hearted and entertaining fashion. The idea being that we could push this podcast out as quickly as possible to help bring a measure of entertainment and enjoyment to people who may be in lock-down or otherwise sitting around the house.

I called Tom Kaye and asked if he’d be willing to participate which he immediately agreed he would. Darren reached out to Anonymous—the driving force behind the William Smith story—and likewise he agreed to participate as well.

Therefore, Darren, Tom, Anonymous and I will be recording a 2-hour DB Cooper BS Session podcast tomorrow which will be released via The Cooper Vortex Podcast sometime this coming week.

I very much want to thank Darren, Tom and Anonymous for willing to contribute to this endeavor to make life a little easier for people by offering up an informative and entertaining podcast on the DB Cooper case during these challenging times.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on March 24, 2020, 12:23:53 AM
I just uploaded our latest episode. DB Cooper's Shocking Details with Joe Swaney of Thinking Sideways and his new show The Shocking Details. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-coopers-shocking-details-joe-swaney/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on March 27, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
Darren just loaded a special episode of The Cooper Vortex which includes a discussion with Tom Kaye, Anonymous (William J Smith fame), Darren and myself.

https://pod.link/1439712498/episode/dGhlY29vcGVydm9ydGV4LnBvZGJlYW4uY29tLzc1ZGRjY2RhLTljODgtNTRlOS05YzgyLTUwMmY3YjIxNjk1OQ==
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on March 27, 2020, 04:46:09 AM
I couldn't load it. I chased all over the Internet to the Vortex to Facebook, but nothing ran. Wassup?
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on March 27, 2020, 09:18:30 AM
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I couldn't load it. I chased all over the Internet to the Vortex to Facebook, but nothing ran. Wassup?

Try this link Bruce:

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on March 27, 2020, 05:33:00 PM
Its generally my policy not to comment on Cooper podcasts, but in this one instance I will say a few things, to set the facts straight!

1. If the Army analyst or statistician, or whatever he is contacted me and I came back 'uninterested' then something is wrong. Analytical work would have been exactly the kind of thing I would be interested in .... so I have no idea what went wrong or why, because as far as I am concerned his statistical analysis of the money distribution in the general population (at banks etc) is one of the most interesting things I heard in this podcast. Im a little sorry we didn't connect to communicate because some of his ideas might have been put to the test - we might know more today than we do! That could prove to be a loss. That person's work could be very valuable in this case! He commented that this kind of statistical work might have been very valuable (crucial) earlier in the case! I could not agree more.  I appreciated everything he had to say!  I dont know what more to say..

2. Tom Kaye was not the tenth or eleventh guy I called looking for someone to do SEM work on the money. He was the first, in the general public! We knew who Tom was and something about his capabilities, his lab capabilities, and he was in a favorable section of the country for expedited delivery of bills from Seattle to Arizona and basic analytical work we wanted. Had Tom said "no", I/We had other lab options. Our forensic mandate from Larry Carr was to analyze the money looking for anything that would shed light on several basic questions. That was our only forensic mandate and the only reason I got involved. I was not looking to become involved in a 'fishing expedition' involving the whole DB Cooper case! When Tom was selected we had no idea he would take on the whole case - that came as a total surprise and I/We dropped out, leading to Tom forming his own 'science team'. The rest is history. The forensic part of the Cooper case has prospered under Tom and Larry's direction. I dont think anyone can seriously argue with that ...     

3. Tom Kaye is not a diatom expert, or a Columbia diatom expert or he would already have shaped his comments differently - and neither are the other panelists speaking on this subject. From my perspective that is obvious and it is adversely affecting the whole discussion so far. Real experts need to be involved (somehow), or the whole discussion about diatoms on the Cooper money is going to be flawed.             
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on March 28, 2020, 04:22:00 PM
Original announcement of a science project with Larry Carr - 2008 at Dropzone:
https://www.dropzone.com/forums/topic/56036-db-cooper/page/170/?tab=comments#comment-3083630

georger
August 27, 2008

Hopefully (if everything goes right on my end) in several weeks we should have some interesting discoveries as it relates to the money thanks to Georger. (Ckret)



REPLY/EXPLANATION:

Some time ago, a panel was assembled and recommended to Larry Carr with the idea of examining the money.

The panel consists of recognised experts in different areas of forensics and analysis, who will examine the money or specimens from the money cache. The analyses will be conducted in laboratory environments equiped with the latest in technology, including chemical, spectroscopic, and even electron microscopy (if necessary).

Our panel will also have access to other researchers and resources if necessary. Every person on our panel is highly skilled, experienced, credentialed, and a published research scientist: some with ties to Quantico.

We have no preconceptions about what we will find. Whatever we find, all information will be relayed to Spc. Agent Carr and his colleagues for their decision making process and determination.

We consider this an opportunity to try and extract some useful information which will help the FBI first and foremost. It has been through the very kind efforts of Larry and his colleagues that this is possible. Speaking for the whole panel, I wish to thank them all publicly.

Wish us luck!

Sincerely,
Georger
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 10, 2020, 10:50:47 PM
New episode out now! DB Cooper is a Folk Hero with Ben Holland. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-a-folk-hero-ben-holland/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on April 15, 2020, 04:31:05 AM
Had a wonderful time today, chatting with Darren and Nicky B on the Cooper Vortex podcast. 2.5 hours of unrelenting conjecture, speculation, and commentary on Things-That-Just-Don't- Add-Up in Cooperville.

I trust it'll be fun to listen to when ol' Russell straightens everything out in the editing room....
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on April 15, 2020, 08:04:30 AM
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Had a wonderful time today, chatting with Darren and Nicky B on the Cooper Vortex podcast. 2.5 hours of unrelenting conjecture, speculation, and commentary on Things-That-Just-Don't- Add-Up in Cooperville.

I trust it'll be fun to listen to when ol' Russell straightens everything out in the editing room....

I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 17, 2020, 09:56:23 PM
Here's one to keep you two entertained while you wait! My latest episode with Keith Hirshland who was there in Reno with his father's News Crew. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-ingrained-in-my-memory-keith-hirshland/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on April 18, 2020, 01:51:06 AM
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Here's one to keep you two entertained while you wait! My latest episode with Keith Hirshland who was there in Reno with his father's News Crew. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-ingrained-in-my-memory-keith-hirshland/

One of the better podcasts you have done; an interesting guest with an actual memory of Cooper's plane landing at Reno. I tend to agree with your guest that Cooper's life was not monolithic - but a blend of many lives and experiences. In fact, Cooper's discussion with Tina seems to document a wide experience ... But I don't see Cooper as needing or even wanting an assistant. I think his escape plan was to go it alone. That may have been to his advantage. All or nothing.   
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 24, 2020, 01:54:55 PM
Thank you georger! I appreciate that. Maybe we can get you to come on the show sometime!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on April 24, 2020, 02:04:40 PM
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Thank you georger! I appreciate that. Maybe we can get you to come on the show sometime!

Not in the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on April 24, 2020, 02:13:37 PM
Interview these folks! In fact,  interview the "author" Gayla Prociv at Auburn WA, the power lady/brains behind The Adventure Books/R&G Housecleaning and Robert Blevins/DB Cooper enterprise!  That would be a first.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on April 24, 2020, 05:11:52 PM
BTW, the above photo was taken outside the Eatonville Library during the Minnow shoot. Hence, I assume RMB will be in the BBC docu.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 24, 2020, 06:23:25 PM
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Had a wonderful time today, chatting with Darren and Nicky B on the Cooper Vortex podcast. 2.5 hours of unrelenting conjecture, speculation, and commentary on Things-That-Just-Don't- Add-Up in Cooperville.

I trust it'll be fun to listen to when ol' Russell straightens everything out in the editing room....

It will be up tonight!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 24, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
It’s up now. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-conspiracy-panel-bruce-smith-and-nicky-broughton/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on April 25, 2020, 11:34:54 AM
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It’s up now. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-conspiracy-panel-bruce-smith-and-nicky-broughton/

A very entertaining podcast from the other end of the DB Cooper spectrum!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on April 25, 2020, 05:18:19 PM
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It’s up now. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-conspiracy-panel-bruce-smith-and-nicky-broughton/

Why would there be any mystery about how Jo Weber (and Duane) obtained information.  :o  Both were Insurance/realty brokers after they met; after their previous careers living on the edge.  Expert net-workers by telephone. People tend to talk and give out information if the presentation is good. Made thousands if not tens of thousands of phone calls. During her trip to WA she had a crew networking asking questions... Jo's favorite trick was the sympathy card - Im in trouble I need to know ... Im calling for X who is in trouble ... Im calling looking for ....  if a principal would talk or answer the phone you start calling secondary sources like cousins, family members, friends, etc. Jo was always trying to do people 'favors'  ... Im calling because I think you might like to know . . .  it worked with H's wife and with Dormant's (sp) wife Jane (Tina's sister) ... it worked for a time with JT's wife ... Jo preferred using female networks and social-sympathy cards etc. Jo and Duane's lives literally depended on having these skills, before and after they met each other. Bruce, Galen, etal will confirm all of this! Back in the 70s the doors to information were easy to crack just using a telephone and the right strategies; no legal issues immediately at stake. It worked for the FBI and others, why not for Jo and Duane! ? There is more but not fit for publication - 
Recent mug shot.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: fcastle866 on April 25, 2020, 09:37:56 PM
Nice work guys.  Darren, Bruce, Nicky.  The value of these podcasts is amplified considerably during the lockdown.  It would be great to hear from other panels of guests from this site as well.  I always learn something new or think of a different angle to look at the case from.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on April 26, 2020, 04:33:25 AM
Kudos to Russell for the editing. Really nice work, and I remember how wild and crazy the conversation got at times - talking over each other, etc.

Thanks, Darren. Fun times.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on April 30, 2020, 10:38:15 PM
New episode out tonight! DB Cooper and The Thrill of the Chase with Mindy Fausey and Stephanie Thirtyacre. They believe Forrest Fenn could be DB Cooper. If you've never heard of Forrest Fenn I'd highly recommend it, if you have heard of him then I know you'll listen.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-mindy-fausey-and-stephanie-thirtyacre/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 01, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

Besides the Forrest Finn/DB Cooper Treasure Hunt in New Mexico, there is one that has been on-going here in Cooper Country.

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know, is offering $200,000 to all who can solve his Norjak puzzle as revealed in his book. I think the offer is genuine. I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

He lives in the Sedro Wooley area of Washington State. He can be reached by his publicist, who lives in Sedro Wooley. I'll have to dig up the name and contact info - later. She's a part-time real estate agent.

The author says he is a wealthy man, having made a fortune in stocks and financial instruments. He's got money to give away, and like Forrest Finn, he loves a party and a big whoop-di-do about a treasure hunt.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.

The author admitted to me that he is not DB Cooper.

He says that all the necessary clues are in the book, and there are seven of them. When you've solved the puzzle, let him know and he'll give you the money.

I couldn't find one clue and gave up. But good luck to y'all.

Darren, maybe you ought to send this on to your gals from the podcast on FF - Mindy and Stephanie. They sound like it might be just they cup o' tea.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: EU on May 01, 2020, 02:48:03 PM
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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

Besides the Forrest Finn/DB Cooper Treasure Hunt in New Mexico, there is one that has been on-going here in Cooper Country.

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know, is offering $200,000 to all who can solve his Norjak puzzle as revealed in his book. I think the offer is genuine. I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

He lives in the Sedro Wooley area of Washington State. He can be reached by his publicist, who lives in Sedro Wooley. I'll have to dig up the name and contact info - later. She's a part-time real estate agent.

The author says he is a wealthy man, having made a fortune in stocks and financial instruments. He's got money to give away, and like Forrest Finn, he loves a party and a big whoop-di-do about a treasure hunt.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.

The author admitted to me that he is not DB Cooper.

He says that all the necessary clues are in the book, and there are seven of them. When you've solved the puzzle, let him know and he'll give you the money.

I couldn't find one clue and gave up. But good luck to y'all.

Darren, maybe you ought to send this on to your gals from the podcast on FF - Mindy and Stephanie. They sound like it might be just they cup o' tea.

This sounds a little bizarre to me. To what end is such an offer being made?
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: dudeman17 on May 01, 2020, 05:48:03 PM
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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know...     I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.



I'm curious - In your talk with him, did he address why, in his version, he has Cooper jumping not over Washington, but later, on the approach to Reno?
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 01, 2020, 06:12:05 PM
Happy Hunting:

Here ya go:

Diane Dalbey
135 State St.
Sedro Wooley, WA 98284
360. 421. 1112

I spoke with her and the author in January 2019. I had a long chat with the author, and we promised to meet with each other the next time I was in his area.

Diane is primarily trying to sell copies of the book. She says there are 1,000 copies left from the initial printing back in the 1980s. Current list price is $39.95. A tad over-priced in my view.

She mailed me a copy of the book and a short note back in early 2019, which got this whole thing going.


Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 01, 2020, 06:25:29 PM
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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know...     I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.



I'm curious - In your talk with him, did he address why, in his version, he has Cooper jumping not over Washington, but later, on the approach to Reno?

Here are some tidbits from my notes, as I decipher my handwriting....

1. Author will respond to correspondence at:

PO Box 2069
Mt. Vernon, WA

2. Author stated that all of his DB Cooper "facts" came from public sources, such as newspapers and TV broadcasts. I assume that means the jump in Reno, too.

3. Diane estimates the author to be in his late 70s.

4. Author says that he doesn't want "any more heat from the FBI." Not sure what kind of heat he has experienced, but his story sounds convoluted. There is a drama concerning who printed the first 25,000 copies, and where 14,000 copies went. Author and Diane currently have 11,000 copies to sell. Diane said there was a lot of media interest when the book was published in the early 1980s and the FBI got involved. Diane said the feds prevented their scheduled appearance on the Letterman Show in 1983.

5. Author says that he is masking his identity to protect his current business interests. He says he is "very public."
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Robert99 on May 01, 2020, 07:06:47 PM
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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know...     I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.



I'm curious - In your talk with him, did he address why, in his version, he has Cooper jumping not over Washington, but later, on the approach to Reno?

Here are some tidbits from my notes, as I decipher my handwriting....

1. Author will respond to correspondence at:

PO Box 2069
Mt. Vernon, WA

2. Author stated that all of his DB Cooper "facts" came from public sources, such as newspapers and TV broadcasts. I assume that means the jump in Reno, too.

3. Diane estimates the author to be in his late 70s.

4. Author says that he doesn't want "any more heat from the FBI." Not sure what kind of heat he has experienced, but his story sounds convoluted. There is a drama concerning who printed the first 25,000 copies, and where 14,000 copies went. Author and Diane currently have 11,000 copies to sell. Diane said there was a lot of media interest when the book was published in the early 1980s and the FBI got involved. Diane said the feds prevented their scheduled appearance on the Letterman Show in 1983.

5. Author says that he is masking his identity to protect his current business interests. He says he is "very public."

Bruce, do you remember the first Expedition Unknown telecast on the Cooper matter?  If you are having a hard time remembering it, just remember that you were in it as were a couple of other people on this thread.  If my memory is correct, the producers of that telecast stated in the program that the Cooper jump at Reno scenario was suggested by a former FBI agent in the Seattle area.

I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno.  So maybe this is the same fellow.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: dudeman17 on May 01, 2020, 09:04:29 PM
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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno.  So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 01, 2020, 11:30:21 PM
Jumping at Reno

The first time I heard of a Reno jump was the recent posting by the FBI agent who also appeared in the Expedition Unknown episode that Robert99, Meyer, and I were in. I forget the FBI's guy's name.

As for HA, HA, HA selecting Reno, I don't specifically remember that. Frankly, I skimmed the book when I got it from Diane over a year ago.

Lastly, there is something about Reno. Perhaps, it's a portal into the Vortex. Robb Heady stole his plane in Reno, and at least one other hijacked plane landed in Reno.

Lastly, lastly, I have lost my copy of HA, HA, HA. I think it walked at CooperCon 2019....
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on May 01, 2020, 11:40:09 PM
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Jumping at Reno

The first time I heard of a Reno jump was the recent posting by the FBI agent who also appeared in the Expedition Unknown episode that Robert99, Meyer, and I were in. I forget the FBI's guy's name.

As for HA, HA, HA selecting Reno, I don't specifically remember that. Frankly, I skimmed the book when I got it from Diane over a year ago.

Lastly, there is something about Reno. Perhaps, it's a portal into the Vortex. Robb Heady stole his plane in Reno, and at least one other hijacked plane landed in Reno.

Lastly, lastly, I have lost my copy of HA, HA, HA. I think it walked at CooperCon 2019....

Is the Reno jump guy named - GEORGE somebody?   He made a strong pitch.

He isnt Johnny Green!     :congrats:    Does Johny Green have his ears and nipples pierced, and tats on his lips? And a law degree?   ;D
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on May 02, 2020, 12:26:35 AM
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New episode out tonight! DB Cooper and The Thrill of the Chase with Mindy Fausey and Stephanie Thirtyacre. They believe Forrest Fenn could be DB Cooper. If you've never heard of Forrest Fenn I'd highly recommend it, if you have heard of him then I know you'll listen.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-mindy-fausey-and-stephanie-thirtyacre/

Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on May 02, 2020, 01:03:22 PM
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Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?

While I definitely prefer to do the interview in person, that isn’t always possible. My second choice is to use a program called Zencastr, because it allows us to record the tracks separately so if we briefly talk over each other Russell can fix that without losing anything. My last choice is to do it over the phone, but with the equipment I have now that isn’t too bad.

I hope this question means you’re considering coming on.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: georger on May 02, 2020, 02:22:40 PM
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Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?

While I definitely prefer to do the interview in person, that isn’t always possible. My second choice is to use a program called Zencastr, because it allows us to record the tracks separately so if we briefly talk over each other Russell can fix that without losing anything. My last choice is to do it over the phone, but with the equipment I have now that isn’t too bad.

I hope this question means you’re considering coming on.

So each participant must have Zencastr ?

Have you ever considered using Zoom?  We have a neighborhood-golf course block party (sing along) every Sat night now - everyone is using Zoom. One guy's nine year old son is running the Zoom chat taking comments and requests. It's hilarious and everyone is enjoying it - people setting up on the golf course well spaced in lawn chairs ...  police now running a patrol (to applause) singing along. So far its private not being opened to the world. 
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on May 02, 2020, 02:40:47 PM
No, I just email a link and the guest is taken to the Zencastr page recording session. The only issue I have with it is it doesn’t support Internet Explorer anymore, and if my guest doesn’t have Chrome, Firefox, or Safari then they’ll have to download one of those.

I don’t use Zoom because as far as I know it won’t allow me to record the tracks separately, and I don’t do video.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 03, 2020, 04:24:54 AM
Chrome seems to be a necessity these days. Zoom and other applications require it or recommend it. But if and when you download Chrome (free) from their site, one has to double-click the download button. It took me three days to figure that one out.

Remember, Cousin Brucie told ya!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on May 03, 2020, 04:25:58 AM
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No, I just email a link and the guest is taken to the Zencastr page recording session. The only issue I have with it is it doesn’t support Internet Explorer anymore, and if my guest doesn’t have Chrome, Firefox, or Safari then they’ll have to download one of those.

I don’t use Zoom because as far as I know it won’t allow me to record the tracks separately, and I don’t do video.

It works fine, Georger. I highly encourage you to do a session with Darren. He is top-notch.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: nickyb233 on May 03, 2020, 06:16:16 AM
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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno.  So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers  a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

https://www.amazon.com/JUMP-RUN-DARK-NIGHT-Dunbar/dp/0974399302
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Robert99 on May 03, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno.  So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers  a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

https://www.amazon.com/JUMP-RUN-DARK-NIGHT-Dunbar/dp/0974399302

Please elaborate on how he "brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb."  Whoever wrote that has obviously never seen a parachute.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: dudeman17 on May 03, 2020, 04:06:30 PM
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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno.  So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers  a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

https://www.amazon.com/JUMP-RUN-DARK-NIGHT-Dunbar/dp/0974399302

Wow, that's right. I'm curious how you came across that to read it. A few of us at the dz read it because he had a couple copies, but we didn't get to keep them. I was never sure how widely published or distributed it was.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Shutter on May 13, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
I moved the comments not related to this thread to clues and documents thread...

Shutter
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on June 20, 2020, 04:11:14 PM
Latest episode out now. DB Cooper and The Adventure Agents with Patrick South. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-adventure-agents-patrick-south/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: RaoulDuke24 on June 21, 2020, 10:22:02 AM
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Latest episode out now. DB Cooper and The Adventure Agents with Patrick South. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-adventure-agents-patrick-south/

I've enjoyed listening to your podcast. I listened to the Forrest Fenn episode the other day. I was wondering if you have reached back out to those two guests since the treasure was finally found recently.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on June 22, 2020, 05:42:55 AM
Me, too. I'd love to hear a follow-up.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Parrotheadvol on June 22, 2020, 09:22:21 AM
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Latest episode out now. DB Cooper and The Adventure Agents with Patrick South. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-adventure-agents-patrick-south/

I've enjoyed listening to your podcast. I listened to the Forrest Fenn episode the other day. I was wondering if you have reached back out to those two guests since the treasure was finally found recently.

Has there been any kind of proof that this thing was actually found? The articles I read didn't really have a lot in the way of convincing information.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: RaoulDuke24 on June 22, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
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Latest episode out now. DB Cooper and The Adventure Agents with Patrick South. Check it out!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-and-the-adventure-agents-patrick-south/

I've enjoyed listening to your podcast. I listened to the Forrest Fenn episode the other day. I was wondering if you have reached back out to those two guests since the treasure was finally found recently.

Has there been any kind of proof that this thing was actually found? The articles I read didn't really have a lot in the way of convincing information.

The social media conspiracies are of course doing their usual thing. But the person who found it took photos of the treasure and sent them to Fenn along with the location. Fenn confirmed it was both the treasure and the location. The person who found it then brought the treasure to Fenn and Fenn posted pictures of himself with the found treasure.  So yes.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on July 01, 2020, 08:28:58 PM
New episode out now! Drew Beeson is back and we discuss his new book, Paratrooper of Fortune: The Story of Ted B Braden.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-the-paratrooper-of-fortune-drew-beeson/

Check it out!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: 18C on July 10, 2020, 07:18:16 PM
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New episode out now! Drew Beeson is back and we discuss his new book, Paratrooper of Fortune: The Story of Ted B Braden.

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-was-the-paratrooper-of-fortune-drew-beeson/

Check it out!

Enjoyed the heck out of Drew's interview and will buy the book as soon as I can work out how. From what I can see it was only printed a couple of weeks ago and the ink is still drying.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Darren on August 03, 2020, 08:24:29 PM
New episode out today! DB Cooper is a Cold Case with Cheyna Roth. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-a-cold-case-cheyna-roth/
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on August 04, 2020, 02:25:55 AM
Who is she? Please tell us more. Your blurb at the Vortex says she is a prosecutor who writes about cold cases.

I'll be listening, but not right now.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: RaoulDuke24 on August 04, 2020, 01:02:34 PM
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New episode out today! DB Cooper is a Cold Case with Cheyna Roth. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-a-cold-case-cheyna-roth/

Awesome, I will definitely give it a listen. I've enjoyed all of these so far.

There was also another episode of the Martin McNally podcast put out today, so that's two good ones to keep me distracted from work this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: 18C on August 05, 2020, 11:17:44 PM
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New episode out today! DB Cooper is a Cold Case with Cheyna Roth. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-a-cold-case-cheyna-roth/
Listened in and enjoyed. Cheyna had you doing a rethink on the bomb being real or not. But by the end you had her doing a rethink too. For what it's worth I don't think it was a real bomb. It does raise the question of what would DBC have done if they had called his bluff on the bomb. But perhaps that little talked about second bag DBC carried on-board contained a gun?
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on August 07, 2020, 05:22:13 PM
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New episode out today! DB Cooper is a Cold Case with Cheyna Roth. Enjoy!

https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/e/db-cooper-is-a-cold-case-cheyna-roth/

I listened to this podcast last night and enjoyed it. Highlights for me were Cheyna's comments on why and who is attracted to true crime mysteries. I'd like to hear more on that - especially on why ONLY MEN, in general, are attracted to the DBC saga. This is interesting because a publisher told me that over half of all true crime books are read by women. But NOT Cooper, apparently.

When an interviewer asks me why I'm so passionate about DBC and have been following the case for so long, I am surprised at how tongue-tied I am. And I have had enough psychotherapy to have at least some kind of answer!
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Parrotheadvol on August 10, 2020, 04:49:56 PM
I never really thought about it before, but if the bomb was fake, why not leave it on the plane as sort one last poke at the authorities. You'd basically be telling them, "I hijacked your plane, took your money, and did it all with a fake bomb".

Interesting thought, but I still come down on the side of the bomb being fake.
Title: Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
Post by: Shutter on August 10, 2020, 05:06:23 PM
That's a crap shoot...he might of felt like it was leaving to much evidence behind..could miss a print wiping it down, link back to him somehow with purchases...