when was there a $15,000 reward?

I go by the official one...

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no, but I've seen them as high as a $100,000...I know they put up a reward for the money..

Don't get me wrong I am NOT saying Hahneman is Cooper, just that I can't eliminate him YET..

Here passengers claim Hahneman was 5' 10"... and other interesting bits


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Billings Gazette (Newspaper) - May 5, 1972, Billings, Montana Hijacker gets WASHINGTON (AP) An armed hijacker who said he could fly the plane if he had to commandeered an Eastern Air- lines jet Friday, picked up in ransom and six para- chutes during a stopover at Dulles International Airport and flew on for an undeclared destination. The other 48 passengers and one stewardess among the crew of seven were let off the Boeing 727 at Dulles after the money and escape gear were delivered to the hijacker, who said he carried explosives. The plane took off heading south but later turned back to- ward Dulles. Nearly hours after taking off, the plane circled within a lOOmile radius of Washington, the FAA said. A spokesman said: "The air- plane's destination at this time is not yet known. It could be some kind of request the hi- jacker made but we just don't know." A source said the hijacker sent out a detailed list of in- structions which indicated he had flying experience. The source quoted the man as say- ing he was familiar with the plane and could fly it if he had to. Pentagon sources said two F106 interceptors were sent after the plane and its hijacker. Passengers interviewed at Dulles described the man as well-dressed, about 40 and perhaps 5 feet 10. Passengers said the man stood at the back of the plane and talked to the pilot over an intercom system. He had a snub-nosed pistol and ordered a stewardess to stay near him at all times. He spoke to no one except a pilot, said the passengers. The pilot, in turn, told passengers: "We are going to Dulles; someone else is in charge of the plane." The Federal Aviation Admin- istration said it had no clue to his identity or planned destina- tion. Asked where the plane was headed, an FAA spokesman said: "You get out your crystal ball and tell us." The man, described only as light-skinned, hijacked East- ern's flight 175 shortly after it left Allentown, Pa., at 10 a.m. The flight was bound for Wash- ington National Airport and Miami. Fla. The plane was refueled on an isolated portion of runway during its 2Vz-hour stopover there, giving it a range of 2.500 miles for an ensuing flight. Money was assembled at a branch bank at the airport. The cash and escape equipment were taken to the plane on a pickup truck about an hour and 40 minutes after it had landed. The other 48 passengers be- gan debarking about 25 minutes later into a mobile lounge. That took 20 minutes. One of the four stewardesses among the crew of seven also left the plane.

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Hijacker Called a Ruthless Man MIAMI The UPI The hijacker of an Eastern Airlines s jet was described Saturday as a completely completely ruthless ruthless' man in his mid mid who said he wanted the extortion money for a political cause in South America the pilot of the hijacked plane said The hijacker told another crewman James Confalone he was dying of cancer and had only six months to live Confalone said in Merida Menda Mexico He said he didn't care if the plane crashed because he had only six months anyway Capt Willard I. I t Hendershott 52 said the hijacker who parachuted from the jetliner shortly before dawn over Honduras in Central America went out ut the rear of the plane through a door that opened against the huge jets jet's airstream The sky pirate launched his skyjacking extortion-skyjacking by taking over the Eastern plane on a domestic flight night Friday from Allentown Pa to te Miami Fla He forced the plane to land at Dulles International Airport where Eastern officials collect collect- collected the extortion money and put it aboard the plane The hijacker armed with a 38 caliber pistol and a satchel of what he said were explosives parachuted out of the plane which then landed in Merida Menda and returned to the airlines' airlines home base in Miami at pm p.m. EDT Hendershott said He was completely ruthless He kept his gun on at least one girl all the time Hendershott said stewardess Julianne Saxon saw the hijacker hijacker go to the rear of the plane but she did not see him go out the rear door because he had closed the curtain in the rear Hendershott said opening the rear door while the plane is in night flight is a difficult proposition Whether he was successful in getting out without losing the top of his head we dont don't know Hendershott said Theres not much room to get out If you get out into the airstream you're gone And if your head is not in the right position its it's not going with you Hendershott said the hijacker parachuted out at about 9,000 feet over mountains after first indicating to the pilot on the airlines airline's own charts where he wanted to go Asked about the odds of success success- for the hijacker Hendershott said I wouldn't think they would be very good parachuting out over the mountains in the dark I wouldn't do it for that amount

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Hijacker Search Continues TEGUCIGALPA Honduras Honduran soldiers searched the jungles in the center of the country for the third day Monday without finding a trace of the hijacker of an Eastern astern Airlines Boeing who parachuted Saturday with in ransom money Government authorities said they feared amateur searchers might help the hijacker in m exchange for fot some of the cash he was given after he landed in Washington DC D.C. where the planes plane's 48 passengers were released along with a dess The U.S. Embassy offered a reward for information on the whereabouts of the hijacker Embassy sources said U.S. diplomatic observers were accompanying accompanying the search efforts centered in the area of Yoro a village of af inhabitants about miles north of Tegucigalpa The village sits in a mountain valley surrounded by jungle and one owned American-owned banana plantations The army mobilized soldiers to comb the Yoro area which is connected by a road from San Pedro SuJ I du duras 1 ras' ras ra second city The road crosses miles of rugged jungle and mountains that may the hideout of the hijacker T. T The air pirate described by as a Vietnam veteran in his commandeered the jetliner on a flight from Allen Allentown town Pa before 6 forcing it down in Washington  to collect the ransom First he was given the money in small bills which he rejected and demanded larger denominations Eastern Airlines officials of  sent planes to banks in New York and Miami to collect 1000 and 500 bills to satisfy the hijacker

I don't see a lot of his MO being similar...he's violent, he used physical force. he spoke more with the pilots than the stews...nothing matching..

This guy demanded larger bills, all Cooper did was show displeasure when he didn't get the knapsack he requested..his pattern would of made them replace the bag with what he originally requested (knapsack) Hahneman probably would of made them leave the stairs down no matter what they said...

Heres another suspect in my opinion

Charles tuller

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His son looks pretty tall

I believe height has a lot to do with genetics

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Heres another suspect in my opinion

Charles tuller

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His son looks pretty tall

I believe height has a lot to do with genetics

What determines the height of a person?

The short answer is that about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic 'factors' mediated by the endocrine system, whereas 20 to 40 percent of the difference can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition. ... In the U.S., the genetic heritability of height is estimated as about 80 percent for white men with different estimates for other racial types.

The issue is statistical, for example the gene for having an extra finger is actually dominant, while the gene for having a tall stature is a recessive trait. Genes alone do not guarantee an outcome but only an influence - other factors combine to produce an actual result.

The CODIS-13 system used to identify persons cannot in-and-of itself identify the height of a person, which may surprise you!   

Okay, as I understand it, 6 feet now means 5 feet 8 inches if necessary to fit the suspect of choice into Cooper's reported profile.

How about eye color?  Is anyone claiming that Cooper's eyes were blue instead of the reported color?

Eyes do change color.  My own eye color has changed completely in the last 20 years or so.

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Heres another suspect in my opinion

Charles tuller

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His son looks pretty tall

I believe height has a lot to do with genetics

What determines the height of a person?

The short answer is that about 60 to 80 percent of the difference in height between individuals is determined by genetic 'factors' mediated by the endocrine system, whereas 20 to 40 percent of the difference can be attributed to environmental effects, mainly nutrition. ... In the U.S., the genetic heritability of height is estimated as about 80 percent for white men with different estimates for other racial types.

The issue is statistical, for example the gene for having an extra finger is actually dominant, while the gene for having a tall stature is a recessive trait. Genes alone do not guarantee an outcome but only an influence - other factors combine to produce an actual result.

The CODIS-13 system used to identify persons cannot in-and-of itself identify the height of a person, which may surprise you!   

Okay, as I understand it, 6 feet now means 5 feet 8 inches if necessary to fit the suspect of choice into Cooper's reported profile.

How about eye color?  Is anyone claiming that Cooper's eyes were blue instead of the reported color?

Eyes do change color.  My own eye color has changed completely in the last 20 years or so.

One can deny the whole description to admit in a suspect, I suppose.

Eye color at the time of the crime is what matters.

No single trait is going to prove or disprove a suspect. This is why prints and the CODIS loci tests are important in unison. Having the ability to rule people out is a very strong positive asset. That level of reliability is very difficult to attack, even in Court. If multiple tests produced that level of reliability then the FBI has a very powerful tool indeed. Suspect and conspiracy promoters will insist the FBI does not have that level of certainty, but only the FBI lab knows. We get a hint of what the FBI thinks it has each time the FBI announces x,y, or z  has failed comparison tests the FBI says it conducted. The FBI usually does not make announcements of this kind unless it feels it has evidence that would stand up in Court. 

Closing the case allowed the FBI to move its physical evidence to a secure site. That move enhanced the chances for future testing which may have even better reliability than previous testing. That was a wise move if this case is to have any future value. 

I hold out hope that future testing may trace Cooper to a familial line, somewhere. If that ever happens then Cooper himself cannot be far behind. And every year more and more professionals are taking note of this old case willing to lend their expertise.

The window is closing on Cooper suspect promotion/marketing.   

 

Window closing, oh, dear, oh, dear - okay, I got dibs on Dick Cavett. Any reason Dick Cavett couldn't have been D.B. Cooper? Same initials. No wait, too short. Dabney Coleman. Piece of cake.

"perhaps" is not certain....just thought I would point that out...

You guys are way off on the height thing and making a grave error in logic, context and judgement. It makes me question (some of) your integrity.. The error is giving false context and too much credibility in Hahneman's FBI early suspect height. Nobody is changing Cooper's height << that is a strawman.

If Hahneman were confirmed 5' 9" to 5' 10" does that alone eliminate him from NORJAK? ANSWER = NO

Mucklow 5' 10" - 6'
Schaffner 6'
Mitchell 5' 9" - 5' 10"
Spreckel 5' 10"
Labissoniere 5' 10"
Gregory 5' - 9"


The argument is that Hahneman is exactly 5' 8" because of an early (BOLO) FBI suspect description, that is nonsense. WE do not know the source of it and therefore we do not know the context. Comparing that without context to the collection of NORJAK witness estimates is apples and oranges. The FBI number may have been an estimate, an error, a rounding number maybe it was 5' 8 1/2", from a relative or medical record. We have no context. The passengers said Hahneman was "perhaps 5' 10"..

For argument, let's assume it is from a medical record. When you get measured that is without variables shoes/socks and to the top of your head not hair. NORJAK witnesses did not measure Cooper's height without shoes/socks and less hair.. DID THEY

You can add and inch to inch and half with shoes/socks and hair added that puts Hahneman's hijacker height between 5' 9" to 5' 10" right where his passengers did "perhaps 5' 10". << that is too close to Cooper to eliminate.

Anybody that claims they can eliminate Hahneman based solely on that unverified FBI suspect height should have their Cooper Sleuth credentials revoked.. (IMO)