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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1815 on: April 19, 2018, 10:34:17 PM »
Frederick William Hahneman

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1816 on: April 20, 2018, 11:57:15 AM »
Attempted to determine Hahneman's height from the pic..

The car he is next to is a late 60's Volvo 144, matched the angle to a full image of the same model to get the full roofline.

The Volvo model 144 is 56.7 inches in height.. using measurements and ratio's to compare Hahneman to the Volvo, he is about 6' tall. This isn't 100% accurate but puts him within Cooper's height range..

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1817 on: April 20, 2018, 12:19:55 PM »
Very car astute. The door handles distinguish it from the later 240 series Volvos.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1818 on: April 20, 2018, 12:44:17 PM »
Hahneman was a radar technician/engineer...

Yttrium was used in Radar Technology... Cooper's tie contained Yttrium

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1819 on: April 20, 2018, 12:54:44 PM »
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Attempted to determine Hahneman's height from the pic..

The car he is next to is a late 60's Volvo 144, matched the angle to a full image of the same model to get the full roofline.

The Volvo model 144 is 56.7 inches in height.. using measurements and ratio's to compare Hahneman to the Volvo, he is about 6' tall. This isn't 100% accurate but puts him within Cooper's height range..
The biggest thing is that Hanneman's demeaner was much different than Cooper's. I hope when they release more FBI files that the well known suspects have their name attached to the the files the way McCoy's was. It would be interesting to see  what eliminated him from a suspect list.
 
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1820 on: April 20, 2018, 01:33:56 PM »
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"Pa ( D P I ) -- The residents on the 100 block of James Street a quiet area in this eastern Pennsylvania community have always looked upon Fredenck William Hdhnemaji as a mysterious figure They wondered what kind of man would leave his blind wife alone to raise their two sons Some felt he had some kind of diplomatic position because he stayed away from the second floor apartment where his family lives for months -- even years at a tune Hahneman, 49, has been charged by the FBI with hijacking an Eastern Airlines jet just after it took off from the AJlentown-Easton- Bethlehem Airport on May 6 The hijacker bailed out of another plane over Honduras with $303,000 ransom He parachuted to the ground and still hasn't been located * His neighbuis said Hahneman made one of his infrequent visits home just before the jet was hijacked One said Mrs Hahneman asked him to come home because one-of the boys was having some kind of trouble William Small, who lives across the street, probably knows more than the other neighbors about the fugitive He said he talked with Hahneman five years ago "One time my wife and I talked to him I think he said he worked for Philco-Bendix He talked about how he was putting rockets on helicopter," Small said. Small said Hahneman "never had any friends here and no one ever knew him He d go away again Another neighbor, Mrs Richard Mettes said, ' I hardly even saw the man But I always thought it strange that he would allow his wife to raise thoe two kids by herself The neighbors became acquainted with Mary Jane Hahneman, the fugitive s wife when the couple and their children moved into the apartment in 1960 They said Mrs Hahneman had been losing her sight for the past six years "It was always a mystery what Mr Hahneman did," Mrs Anna Gately said "We were under the impression that he must have had a very nice position He was always well dressed The woman said Mrs Hahneman, "had always been my Idea of someone who can cope with trouble " She said the blind woman raised her two sons, John, 17, and Frederick Jr , 21, alone "She never talked about her husband She's a wonderful woman, never bitter about her sight," Mrs Gately said She added that she often drove her to the bank to cash her husband's paycheck, which he apparently had .."


Bendix made many rockets, they used Yttrium, mid 60's rockets on helicopters??
 

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« Reply #1821 on: April 20, 2018, 03:24:57 PM »
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"Pa ( D P I ) -- The residents on the 100 block of James Street a quiet area in this eastern Pennsylvania community have always looked upon Fredenck William Hdhnemaji as a mysterious figure They wondered what kind of man would leave his blind wife alone to raise their two sons Some felt he had some kind of diplomatic position because he stayed away from the second floor apartment where his family lives for months -- even years at a tune Hahneman, 49, has been charged by the FBI with hijacking an Eastern Airlines jet just after it took off from the AJlentown-Easton- Bethlehem Airport on May 6 The hijacker bailed out of another plane over Honduras with $303,000 ransom He parachuted to the ground and still hasn't been located * His neighbuis said Hahneman made one of his infrequent visits home just before the jet was hijacked One said Mrs Hahneman asked him to come home because one-of the boys was having some kind of trouble William Small, who lives across the street, probably knows more than the other neighbors about the fugitive He said he talked with Hahneman five years ago "One time my wife and I talked to him I think he said he worked for Philco-Bendix He talked about how he was putting rockets on helicopter," Small said. Small said Hahneman "never had any friends here and no one ever knew him He d go away again Another neighbor, Mrs Richard Mettes said, ' I hardly even saw the man But I always thought it strange that he would allow his wife to raise thoe two kids by herself The neighbors became acquainted with Mary Jane Hahneman, the fugitive s wife when the couple and their children moved into the apartment in 1960 They said Mrs Hahneman had been losing her sight for the past six years "It was always a mystery what Mr Hahneman did," Mrs Anna Gately said "We were under the impression that he must have had a very nice position He was always well dressed The woman said Mrs Hahneman, "had always been my Idea of someone who can cope with trouble " She said the blind woman raised her two sons, John, 17, and Frederick Jr , 21, alone "She never talked about her husband She's a wonderful woman, never bitter about her sight," Mrs Gately said She added that she often drove her to the bank to cash her husband's paycheck, which he apparently had .."


Bendix made many rockets, they used Yttrium, mid 60's rockets on helicopters??

Flyjack, what is your source for claiming that "Bendix made many rockets" for helicopters in the mid 1960s?

As I remember it, Bendix was primarily an electronic supplier and I doubt if they had anything to do with making the rockets themselves.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1822 on: April 20, 2018, 04:01:24 PM »
Is there anyone on Shutter's site that is a current subscriber to Aviation Week / Space Technology magazine?

I was a subscriber to Aviation Week for 55+ years but cancelled my subscription last year.  Current subscribers have access to the Aviation Week archives and I am interested in something that was published by them in the 1963-1965 time frame.

This is related to the Cooper matter.

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1823 on: April 20, 2018, 04:32:58 PM »
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"Pa ( D P I ) -- The residents on the 100 block of James Street a quiet area in this eastern Pennsylvania community have always looked upon Fredenck William Hdhnemaji as a mysterious figure They wondered what kind of man would leave his blind wife alone to raise their two sons Some felt he had some kind of diplomatic position because he stayed away from the second floor apartment where his family lives for months -- even years at a tune Hahneman, 49, has been charged by the FBI with hijacking an Eastern Airlines jet just after it took off from the AJlentown-Easton- Bethlehem Airport on May 6 The hijacker bailed out of another plane over Honduras with $303,000 ransom He parachuted to the ground and still hasn't been located * His neighbuis said Hahneman made one of his infrequent visits home just before the jet was hijacked One said Mrs Hahneman asked him to come home because one-of the boys was having some kind of trouble William Small, who lives across the street, probably knows more than the other neighbors about the fugitive He said he talked with Hahneman five years ago "One time my wife and I talked to him I think he said he worked for Philco-Bendix He talked about how he was putting rockets on helicopter," Small said. Small said Hahneman "never had any friends here and no one ever knew him He d go away again Another neighbor, Mrs Richard Mettes said, ' I hardly even saw the man But I always thought it strange that he would allow his wife to raise thoe two kids by herself The neighbors became acquainted with Mary Jane Hahneman, the fugitive s wife when the couple and their children moved into the apartment in 1960 They said Mrs Hahneman had been losing her sight for the past six years "It was always a mystery what Mr Hahneman did," Mrs Anna Gately said "We were under the impression that he must have had a very nice position He was always well dressed The woman said Mrs Hahneman, "had always been my Idea of someone who can cope with trouble " She said the blind woman raised her two sons, John, 17, and Frederick Jr , 21, alone "She never talked about her husband She's a wonderful woman, never bitter about her sight," Mrs Gately said She added that she often drove her to the bank to cash her husband's paycheck, which he apparently had .."


Bendix made many rockets, they used Yttrium, mid 60's rockets on helicopters??

Flyjack, what is your source for claiming that "Bendix made many rockets" for helicopters in the mid 1960s?

As I remember it, Bendix was primarily an electronic supplier and I doubt if they had anything to do with making the rockets themselves.

Bendix made rockets and missiles, I don't know if any were specifically put on helos hence the ?? I don't know anything about helo rockets/missiles...

Hahneman worked for Philco-Bendix and his neighbour said he loaded helos.. at some point mid 60's
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1824 on: April 20, 2018, 04:44:46 PM »
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Attempted to determine Hahneman's height from the pic..

The car he is next to is a late 60's Volvo 144, matched the angle to a full image of the same model to get the full roofline.

The Volvo model 144 is 56.7 inches in height.. using measurements and ratio's to compare Hahneman to the Volvo, he is about 6' tall. This isn't 100% accurate but puts him within Cooper's height range..
The biggest thing is that Hanneman's demeaner was much different than Cooper's. I hope when they release more FBI files that the well known suspects have their name attached to the the files the way McCoy's was. It would be interesting to see  what eliminated him from a suspect list.

Possible explanation..
The Hahneman hijacking environment was different from Cooper.. The Hahneman airplane had many more passengers who were aware of the hijacking, passengers even confronted Hahneman, he had more pressure and was forced to be aggressive. Norjak had few passengers and none were aware of the hijacking. Cooper only dealt with the stew's..
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1825 on: April 20, 2018, 06:01:40 PM »
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Is there anyone on Shutter's site that is a current subscriber to Aviation Week / Space Technology magazine?

I was a subscriber to Aviation Week for 55+ years but cancelled my subscription last year.  Current subscribers have access to the Aviation Week archives and I am interested in something that was published by them in the 1963-1965 time frame.

This is related to the Cooper matter.

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some archived 63-65 Aviation Week's here at link... click "more" left side and select year

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1826 on: April 20, 2018, 06:08:21 PM »
I don't know this was posted about Hannemann
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1827 on: April 20, 2018, 06:15:32 PM »
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Is there anyone on Shutter's site that is a current subscriber to Aviation Week / Space Technology magazine?

I was a subscriber to Aviation Week for 55+ years but cancelled my subscription last year.  Current subscribers have access to the Aviation Week archives and I am interested in something that was published by them in the 1963-1965 time frame.

This is related to the Cooper matter.

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some archived 63-65 Aviation Week's here at link... click "more" left side and select year

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Flyjack, thanks for the link but I do not see "more" or anything else that could be a further link.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1828 on: April 20, 2018, 06:24:49 PM »
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Is there anyone on Shutter's site that is a current subscriber to Aviation Week / Space Technology magazine?

I was a subscriber to Aviation Week for 55+ years but cancelled my subscription last year.  Current subscribers have access to the Aviation Week archives and I am interested in something that was published by them in the 1963-1965 time frame.

This is related to the Cooper matter.

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some archived 63-65 Aviation Week's here at link... click "more" left side and select year

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Flyjack, thanks for the link but I do not see "more" or anything else that could be a further link.

sorry, I posted the wrong link, try this..

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« Reply #1829 on: April 20, 2018, 07:17:04 PM »
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Is there anyone on Shutter's site that is a current subscriber to Aviation Week / Space Technology magazine?

I was a subscriber to Aviation Week for 55+ years but cancelled my subscription last year.  Current subscribers have access to the Aviation Week archives and I am interested in something that was published by them in the 1963-1965 time frame.

This is related to the Cooper matter.

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some archived 63-65 Aviation Week's here at link... click "more" left side and select year

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Flyjack, thanks for the link but I do not see "more" or anything else that could be a further link.

sorry, I posted the wrong link, try this..

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Flyjack, thanks again and the above link works.