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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4575 on: December 05, 2020, 06:34:14 PM »
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Congratulations on surviving that big shaker, Lynn. Clearly, many people didn't.
Yeah, it was Kobe, Japan, 1995, one year to the day after the California Northridge quake. We were 20 km from the epicentre and there were two quakes back-to-back in 10 seconds. I'd never experienced one before and thought that was it; for many it was. I was 20-something at the time and not ready to go yet, lol. I stayed, finished out my contract rather than go home to a recession,  not having realized that the aftershocks would keep coming for months and be at times almost as large as the quake itself. Later found out our bank had fallen across a street, an expressway fell sideways, the rail lines twisted like crullers.  Coming into a classroom and finding a desk with a bowl of rice and chopsticks standing straight up meant the student who'd sat there had died. About 20% of the city was homeless and in gyms and shelters.  And a couple months later we were on our way to feed some left homeless by the quake and found out in the Kobe subway that the Tokyo subway had been attacked by Sarin gas, a cult called Aum Shinrikyo.   2020 is tied for weirdest year of my life with 1995, lol. It took me about 10 years to realize that quake was still affecting me in all sorts of ways. Sorry for the non-Cooper diversion, all I really meant to say is that PTSD is very individual and I'm sure was for the flight crew in the case.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4576 on: December 06, 2020, 05:47:11 PM »
Thanks, Lynn, I'm glad you posted this. It's important in my view, and gives us perspective on traumas - how many layers there are. Gawd, coming into a classroom and finding chopsticks standing straight in a bowl of rice? Whew. Or have 20% of a city homeless. Your account gives meaningful depth to the idea of PTSD.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4577 on: December 20, 2020, 05:47:57 PM »
Throwing in my 2 cents. If this case is ever solved we will come to realize that some of the currently accepted "facts" about this case have been wrong. From physical description, eye color etc. or even other aspects regarding what actually transpired on the plane. There is much more information we are not aware of as I do not believe the FBI has released all files regarding this case. Also take in consideration that everyones personal perspective or observations were a bit conflicting regarding what they saw or experienced. It happens. Besides you cannot conclude that the FBI did everything correctly. They make mistakes. Maybe information from witnesses were not recorded as accurately as possible. Witnesses explain something to an agent and then later the agent translate this information with their own perspective and assumptions.  Tina M. should be treated just like any piece of evidence. She doesnt talk to anyone could be contributed to FBI requesting she not reveal any information that could affect the case. She spent many hours alone with him and that information has not be revealed by the FBI for good reason. FBI were eliminating suspects just based on resemblance to the sketch of DB. Not a very good way to conclude someone didnt commit the crime.  Only if we are willing to go back and be willing to admit that not everything we know about the case is as correct as we think. Anybody ever think that maybe DB was actually given 2 exact pioneer shutes. Is it possible that would help suspects who confess to the crime by claiming they jumped with a military shute. We do know that Earl Cossey was used by the FBI to provide a scenario that DB couldnt of survived. Could they of also requested him to claim a military shute was provided. Im just giving an example of how we probably do not know the all of he correct facts.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4578 on: December 20, 2020, 07:32:00 PM »
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Throwing in my 2 cents. If this case is ever solved we will come to realize that some of the currently accepted "facts" about this case have been wrong. From physical description, eye color etc. or even other aspects regarding what actually transpired on the plane. There is much more information we are not aware of as I do not believe the FBI has released all files regarding this case. Also take in consideration that everyones personal perspective or observations were a bit conflicting regarding what they saw or experienced. It happens. Besides you cannot conclude that the FBI did everything correctly. They make mistakes. Maybe information from witnesses were not recorded as accurately as possible. Witnesses explain something to an agent and then later the agent translate this information with their own perspective and assumptions.  Tina M. should be treated just like any piece of evidence. She doesnt talk to anyone could be contributed to FBI requesting she not reveal any information that could affect the case. She spent many hours alone with him and that information has not be revealed by the FBI for good reason. FBI were eliminating suspects just based on resemblance to the sketch of DB. Not a very good way to conclude someone didnt commit the crime.  Only if we are willing to go back and be willing to admit that not everything we know about the case is as correct as we think. Anybody ever think that maybe DB was actually given 2 exact pioneer shutes. Is it possible that would help suspects who confess to the crime by claiming they jumped with a military shute. We do know that Earl Cossey was used by the FBI to provide a scenario that DB couldnt of survived. Could they of also requested him to claim a military shute was provided. Im just giving an example of how we probably do not know the all of he correct facts.
I don't think that we or the FBI know all the facts. If they did Cooper would have been found dead or alive.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4579 on: December 21, 2020, 02:11:37 AM »
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... Anybody ever think that maybe DB was actually given 2 exact pioneer shutes....


Yup. Me.