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Offline MarkBennett

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2014, 11:25:54 PM »
If you want to do that, make a separate category for each of the major suspects.   Make a Duane Weber category and allow Jo to respond there.

One of the problems on the other site is much of the conversation is attacking people and their motivations for advancing their suspects.  I hope we can discuss the pros and cons of their arguments, not the presenters.

I understand a few people aren't allowed to post on the other site, so that can't respond to unfair criticism, but that's why we don't let those critics post here.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2014, 11:26:32 PM »
"I agree, name calling and provocative attributes, such as "nutcase," are excessive in my opinion, but fair commentary on the obvious is acceptable to me."

people got on my case about the word "liar" I toned it down by using deception. there are ways to still express your thoughts without resorting to insults. I realize that Jo can get nasty as well, but she has the option to counter on DZ. two of them are speaking of Galen on there and it makes it hard not to allow it here. I have to allow a certain amount of steam to blow, so to speak, but Mark is not the only one who has brought this to my attention.

Try and release the steam a little slower, and with less insults. I think that's fair?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2014, 11:31:25 PM »
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If you want to do that, make a separate category for each of the major suspects.   Make a Duane Weber category and allow Jo to respond there.

One of the problems on the other site is much of the conversation is attacking people and their motivations for advancing their suspects.  I hope we can discuss the pros and cons of their arguments, not the presenters.

I understand a few people aren't allowed to post on the other site, so that can't respond to unfair criticism, but that's why we don't let those critics post here.

I offered Jo a spot on here not long after she made her post here. she never responded to it. she gets frustrated quickly. the whole Jo/Blevins thing is a never ending story. it really needs to stay on DZ.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #123 on: May 05, 2014, 12:02:49 AM »
one advantage we do have is categories. Bruce was speaking of Duane's confession. it's in the right category, but the insults took over the comment. I can't censor everything said. we have a gossip thread, but one must take a risk whether to open it, or not. I have to come to a decision on what is fair. I'm to tired to come to a conclusion tonite.

Bruce, Coop, let's get the site moved, and discuss "fairness" once we are settled into the new home. the insults will stop no matter what. that needs to stay on DZ. several people can stop one thread. I'm not going to let it happen here. what ever "new rule" follows this, and ends up being breached. the vacations begin. it will be a surgical strike

POOF, as they say!
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #124 on: May 05, 2014, 10:32:48 AM »
Bruce  You say:
"Okay, Sail, if Tom Kaye told you directly that the tie had two forms of titanium on it - pure and alloy - I accept that.
I had originally assumed you were suffering from an episode of Cooper Vortex memory confusion.
As for what was actually on the tie, oh well.  One, two or three forms of Ti?  Gawd Almighty.  Norjak is a trip and a half."

I say:
Tom and I were talking about both types of Titanium (pure and alloy) but evidently the sleuths only found pure Titanium on the tie. Tom jumped to the conclusion that it was not from Boeing as he guessed that Boeing was using only alloy Titanium. So, let me be clear about this. If the tie had only pure Titanium on it then it tells me it came from the M&P lab in the 9-101 building at Boeing and just under Sheridan Peterson's office in the same building. The pure Titanium is like an address to the 9-101 building and Sheridan.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2014, 08:41:53 PM »
Tosaw wasn't lying about Jo Weber.  He meant every word of it.  Btw Shutter, those were Tosaw's words, not mine.  Bruce should get Jerry Thomas to weigh-in on this site about Weber.  I met with JT in Oregon last summer and he had not one decent word to say about Jo.  So,  ....just cause Jo says it on the other site, doesn't make it true.  Maybe just the opposite.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2014, 12:38:30 AM »
I've given JT this address twice, and encouraged him to join the party at Shutter's Place.  Not sure why he hasn't.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2014, 12:42:24 AM »
Shut - sure, move the site first.  Then we'll figure out how to discuss nasty people, or not.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2014, 02:49:16 AM »
Jerry T. assured me last summer that Jo was an extremely abusive person.  We sort of compared notes about her, but Jerry did most of the talking.  She threatens everybody.  Tosaw had nothing to do with the woman.  Jo claims mountains of e-mails that Cook sent her.  Bulls**t!  If there are any mts. of documents, its all the phone recordings Cook has kept over the years of Jo calling in the middle of the night, ranting about how Cook needs to help her solve the DBC case.  Really?  Cook is going to work for Jo?   Jo has called Cook and left messages as late as a few months ago.  As for Tina Mucklow, Jo never met or talked with Tina.  That was all set up by others....using a different lady to speak with Jo, who only thought she was talking to Tina.  Found this out during my investigation.  The only non-LEO's on this case who have actually met with Tina are Tosaw, Cook, and Smith.  Himmelsbach, Carr, Eng, and others never met nor talked with Tina.   If Jo knew where and how to meet Tina, she would have tried to do it in 2010 when she came to WA state for few short days.  Bruce met her personally and wasn't too impressed with her.  Luckily, Jo was too busy to meet with Cook.  And that was a good thing.  :)
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2014, 07:05:09 AM »
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I've given JT this address twice, and encouraged him to join the party at Shutter's Place.  Not sure why he hasn't.

JT signed on at the start of the thread. he said he would check in from time to time. "Thanks Shutter, I'll just pop in every so often to see how every one is doing."
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #130 on: May 10, 2014, 02:57:59 PM »
ok, lets look at any possible reason KC could be Cooper, is it even possible?

1) we have zero proof about any valuable coin/stamp collection
2) we don't have any conclusive proof where he was November 24, 1971
3) we now know he didn't pay anywhere close to the amount in cash for his home, in fact it was paid off 17 years later.
4) we have zero proof of a hiding spot in the attic. it doesn't make sense that the last know surface (formica) was on a piece of wood in the attic years later.
5) we have conflicting stories about 20's being found on the property.
6) I failed to find any articles asking about the money find in the Bonney Lake newspapers.
7) we were able to find reason why he had so much money towards the end of his life. someone claims no reason for it?
8] none of the people claiming they think he was Cooper has come forward to help resolve this crime.
9) I find it strange the brother (Lyle) couldn't put this together in 1971, but seemed to fit it all in place after watching one show?
10) I believe since Kenny flew oversea's it very possible he got expensive items cheap, and brought them back.
11) Kenny lacks many physical features, eye color, height, head is more oval shaped, bald, light skinned, ears stick out.
12) his picture has been in the public eye for many years now, and yet Flo, who also raised a brow at LD was interested. nobody else.
13) it's the biggest set of coincidences in frickin' history.? on what? several people saying he might be Cooper?
14) the pic below shows KC (supposedly)  top third photo months after the crime. note how large his face is.

I'm sure I left things out,but remember, we are discussing the evidence! not who has produced it.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #131 on: May 10, 2014, 07:59:50 PM »
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #132 on: May 10, 2014, 11:57:24 PM »
How about the fact that Kenny continued to work for NWA for many years after the hijacking? I know Blevins says that doesn't mean much, but if he had quit his job soon after the hijacking, we'd certainly be hearing that as evidence of his guilt. The fact that he worked there for so long, to me, is just more evidence that he was not involved.

 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #133 on: May 11, 2014, 12:01:04 AM »
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How about the fact that Kenny continued to work for NWA for many years after the hijacking? I know Blevins says that doesn't mean much, but if he had quit his job soon after the hijacking, we'd certainly be hearing that as evidence of his guilt. The fact that he worked there for so long, to me, is just more evidence that he was not involved.


Yep, and what exactly is "the biggest set of coincidences in frickin' history" ? I fail to see this massive amount of "coincidences" ??????
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #134 on: May 11, 2014, 04:57:45 PM »
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How about the fact that Kenny continued to work for NWA for many years after the hijacking? I know Blevins says that doesn't mean much, but if he had quit his job soon after the hijacking, we'd certainly be hearing that as evidence of his guilt. The fact that he worked there for so long, to me, is just more evidence that he was not involved.

Right....and if everything Blevins says is true, there still is nothing that ties Kenny to the flight.  And, nobody (other than his brother) will even come out and suggest he is.  There just doesn't seem to be any "there" there.


Yep, and what exactly is "the biggest set of coincidences in frickin' history" ? I fail to see this massive amount of "coincidences" ??????