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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7185 on: August 04, 2020, 02:23:53 AM »
The NEWS - that the money was found downriver from the dredge spoils - is new to me.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7186 on: August 04, 2020, 02:30:26 AM »
where the spoils are and the money, yes...
 

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« Reply #7187 on: August 04, 2020, 03:53:22 AM »
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The NEWS - that the money was found downriver from the dredge spoils - is new to me.

DOWN RIVER:  Toward or near the mouth of a river; in the direction of the current flow: swam downriver; a downriver canoe race.

UP RIVER:  at or toward a point nearer the source of a river. Opposite the direction of current flow. Opposite "Down River".

The river flows SOUTH TO NORTH by Tina Bar.  The dredge spoil sites are SOUTH of the Ingram find site. Therefore. the Ingram find site is UP RIVER in the direction of flow from the dredging spoil sites.

People (Tom,. Ulis, etc) have maintained for years the mere distance between the dredging spoil sites and the Ingram find was too large for there to be any causal connection between the two, in spite of the fact water and sand flows north from the spoil sites to the Ingram site, and beyond, as during tides. 

Two USGS hydrologists interviewed say sands from the spoil site wash North to the Ingram find site (hundreds of yards!) and now Tom is acknowledging that fact.  This fact has been posted hundreds of times! 

... HERE IS A PICTURE OF HOW IT WORKS . . .
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Short British drama re-working the DB Cooper hijack
« Reply #7188 on: August 04, 2020, 05:56:11 AM »

short British drama re-working the DB Cooper hijack;

Tales of the Unexpected - Hijack (1981)

The captain of an airliner has to deal with a man who seizes a stewardess, holds her hostage, and demands a million Pounds (so worth around $2m in 1981 - which I think is about $5m in 2020) and 2 parachutes. They are brought onboard and in exchange the passengers are released. The plane then takes off again on the hijacker's orders.

(Can you guess how it ends this time?)

26 minutes -
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7189 on: August 04, 2020, 04:45:43 PM »
Daily DB Cooper Bite - Special Edition

I discuss Tom Kaye's discovery of diatoms on DB Cooper's ransom and what it tells us.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7190 on: August 05, 2020, 12:10:56 AM »
Well, Georger, you are psychic, as I do have a new chapter for ya - at least part of one. Here's the part:

Another Evidentiary Break-Through

In 2019, Tom Kaye revisited the diatom question with a close examination of a Cooper twenty provided by the Cooper aficionado known as “377.” Using high-powered electron microscopes similar to those he utilized with McCrone on the tie particles, Kaye explored stub samples from four different spots on 377’s twenty and discovered diatoms, a finding which he had originally discounted in 2009. When questioned, Kaye told me that he and the CS did find diatoms during their initial examination in 2009 of bills provided by the FBI, but they were the most common forms of diatoms and not indicative of any specific location or water body. Since their investigatory interests lay elsewhere, the CS explored the issues of the blackened bills and the tie.

However, when Kaye looked at 377’s bill he found several unique and interesting diatoms – Asterionella and Fragilaria – which triggered a great deal of investigatory interest.

“These diatoms are a spring species,” Kaye said. “They only bloom in the spring, and certainly not in November when Cooper jumped.”

Since the bills only had one season of diatoms on them, Kaye theorizes that the bills were only in the Columbia for a short period of time – a spring of an unknown year – and arrived at Tina Bar months or years after Cooper’s skyjacking.

After exposure to these springtime diatoms, apparently the money got buried and became inaccessible to diatoms, which only live in water or on the wet surface of shoreline sand. Further, since the bills became so compressed, they seem to have been covered by a heavy load of sand, perhaps several feet worth.

In addition, Kaye said that the Fragilaria was only found on one section of 377’s bill – an inner portion – and because of the extraordinary power of the electron microscope they discovered several bits of other bills stuck to the larger twenty, which were covering up the Fragilaria sample. Thus, Kaye speculates that when the bills were exposed to water they also fanned out for a period of time, allowing the Fragilaria to enter more deeply into the wad of bills.

With a laugh, Tom Kaye concedes that these findings make the money find even more mysterious, as they certainly disprove the Washougal Wash-Down theory, and impugn the possibility of burial by DB Cooper. Unless, of course, DB buried his money the night of the skyjacking and when he came back for his loot – in the springtime of some year – he dropped these three bundles inadvertently into the river and lost track of them, only to have them re-buried at Tina Bar before they picked up any more diatoms.

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7191 on: August 05, 2020, 12:29:54 AM »
Eric, I loved your speculations. Mucking around in the muck of a high-water event in June, eh? Why not!
 
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7192 on: August 05, 2020, 12:40:17 AM »
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I came here tonight to post twelve questions for Tom only to find R99, and Elvis IN CHARGE OF THE FORUM with R99 posting more personal attacks Shutter will do nothing about .... with Tom Kaye bringing up the rear like a baggage boy looking for a tip and stray change!

WTF is going on here?  Is this another chapter being made for Smith's book ?   Maybe you have the forum you deserve!   

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Georger, you have insulted TK, EU, BS, and myself today.  Did either of these people file a complaint against you?  I doubt it.  Why don't you make some effort to grow up?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7193 on: August 05, 2020, 12:49:04 AM »
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The NEWS - that the money was found downriver from the dredge spoils - is new to me.

DOWN RIVER:  Toward or near the mouth of a river; in the direction of the current flow: swam downriver; a downriver canoe race.

UP RIVER:  at or toward a point nearer the source of a river. Opposite the direction of current flow. Opposite "Down River".

The river flows SOUTH TO NORTH by Tina Bar.  The dredge spoil sites are SOUTH of the Ingram find site. Therefore. the Ingram find site is UP RIVER in the direction of flow from the dredging spoil sites.


Really? I thought the dredge spoils were on Fazio property, kind of near the Tina Bar sign. Up river from the discovery site, which was north near the northern property line. No?
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7194 on: August 05, 2020, 01:03:25 AM »
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Really? I thought the dredge spoils were on Fazio property, kind of near the Tina Bar sign. Up river from the discovery site, which was north near the northern property line. No?

The money was discovered 640 feet north of the "Tina Bar" sign. The money find site is DOWNSTREAM from the sign. The river flows to the NORTH at this point.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7195 on: August 05, 2020, 04:48:35 AM »
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I came here tonight to post twelve questions for Tom only to find R99, and Elvis IN CHARGE OF THE FORUM with R99 posting more personal attacks Shutter will do nothing about .... with Tom Kaye bringing up the rear like a baggage boy looking for a tip and stray change!

WTF is going on here?  Is this another chapter being made for Smith's book ?   Maybe you have the forum you deserve!   

 vote the smileycode and safe       :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Georger, you have insulted TK, EU, BS, and myself today.  Did either of these people file a complaint against you?  I doubt it.  Why don't you make some effort to grow up?

BS. Liar. You started this crap tonight, as usual. You are an unscrupulous troubled person who will attack people and say and do anything to get your way.  You just keep attacking and attacking and pushing and pushing until you get your way. Then after your victims finally react you blame them for it all! You must know something your victims don't get! Is it a trap you designed?  :-X   
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7196 on: August 05, 2020, 04:49:07 AM »
That's my understanding, EU. Georger is confusing me.
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« Reply #7197 on: August 05, 2020, 04:49:57 AM »
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That's my understanding. Georger is confusing me.

How am I confusing you! ?  You are just confused!

down·stream: situated or moving in the direction in which a stream or river flows.

up·stream: in the opposite direction from that in which a stream or river flows; nearer to the source.

Ulis says: "The money find site is DOWNSTREAM from the sign." Ulis is right.  The river flows south to north by Tina Bar. The find site is NORTH of the sign! So the find site is DOWNSTREAM  in the direction in which a stream or river flows from the sign just as Ulis and Georger say.    :-X
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7198 on: August 05, 2020, 05:48:02 PM »
In the news:

Ammonium nitrate disasters ...
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #7199 on: August 05, 2020, 09:00:11 PM »
This site is going to function correctly..do you understand? ALL the insults need to stop right now. Georger, you complain about someone asking you to get your head checked? what is Eric's name, is it really Elvis. who is attacking who here?

You have a problem with certain evidence surrounding the case. counter it without constant cheap shots. show the reasoning why you disagree. it's not that hard to do.NOBODY is running this site except ME..

Robert Blevins got his ass handed to him as well..That's the REAL spammer..

'Robert. Now that the spammer is gone, is there any chance we can just talk about DB Cooper on this thread and not have personal attacks and defenses, or posts that have zero bearing on the case like trucks and camping? I bet if you ignore the Mountain News that they will stop posting about you."

ENOUGH OF THE BULLSHIT!
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