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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3135 on: June 11, 2017, 12:40:48 AM »
I've seen that site before. I doubt old Bobby knows it's there...they are making fun of him..looks like a mission for his boyfriend from Microsoft....
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« Reply #3136 on: June 11, 2017, 10:11:36 AM »
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Hello I’m a long time lurker and follower of the DB Cooper Case.  By no means am I an expert nor claim to be one in regards to the specifics of the high jacking.  However what I can tell you is over the years I have read / interpreted many of the experts on the world wide web and discovered many of them seem to have very little understanding of the Columbia River and the surrounding terrain.  Some time ago an individual presented a story in which a man strolled out of the woods with a wounded knee and ended up slumped over near a small grocer in Carson Washington (or something close to that effect).  Now I don’t believe the story for a bit but what I did find surprising was the fact Bruce Smith stated he had to google where Carson WA was.  To be honest I was surprised at Bruce’s post.  Carson was most certainly in the realm of possibility and a long time Cooper investigator apparently was not familiar with the area.  I began to realize most folks on these forums have done most of their research from a sitting position directly in front of their computer.  Now before anybody gets defensive or upset this is no knock on anyone, frankly the computer is probably the best investigative tool society currently has.  Bruce Smith and I are on the complete opposite sides of spectrum but I absolutely enjoy his take and research on the case.  I like the outside of the box thinking and it’s a must because 46 years later this crime is still unsolved.
I’m an avid trapper / hunter & fisherman and spent 5 years of my life pounding the Washougal & Lewis river basins along with the Columbia River itself (hunting and fishing only as trapping is prohibited in Washington).  The greatest miss-understanding in my opinion on these website’s is the Tina Bar money find.  Folks seem to infatically and with great confidence state things about the money that are just straight up false in regards to how the money may or may have not ended up resting on the shores of the Columbia.  I constantly read things like Cooper must have died very close to the money find as there is no other way the money could have been found in the vicinity.  Or the other popular statement is the flight path is wrong.  As sure as I’m sitting here today that money is really no mystery to me.  I tend to believe the original drop zone is most likely the accurate one but I also won’t rule out the following tributaries:
Lewis River
East Fork Lewis
Washougal
Kalama
Coweeman
Toutle
And frankly several others however I believe above mentioned are the best bets
With that being said I will take my experience over to the Tina Bar thread.  And hopefully give a better understanding of the Columbia River to some folks who have never been on its banks so they can make judgement for themselves.

Has anyone ever put a numbered ping pong ball in these tributaries (or a log from a tree), and had it turn up at Tina Bar? Or anywhere even close to Tina Bar?

Do you work on VW's?

Hello Georger,
I think you’re poking a little fun at me which is fine with the “Do you work on VW’s”.  I work for an Environmental company throughout the Pacific Northwest identifying hazardous waste per the 40CFR and have so for many years.

Again I’m not sure if your making fun of me (maybe not I have a hard time reading your sense of humor at times) but I believe the stated test would be beneficial.  Sure the objects used may not end up at exactly at Tina Bar but it could give us a better idea of which tributary the money may have come from.  Or if possible at all.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3137 on: June 11, 2017, 10:45:01 AM »
do you live in Washington, Oregon?
 

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« Reply #3138 on: June 11, 2017, 10:54:19 AM »
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do you live in Washington, Oregon?

I live in Western Oregon but have a unique commute (it's a long story).  I drive to Seattle and back once a week taking me directly thru Cooper Country.
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3139 on: June 11, 2017, 10:55:54 AM »
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I think you’re poking a little fun at me

Trapper (John, MD),
It is akin to fearing then loving the bomb in Dr Strangelove, over time I think you'll learn to appreciate the bewildering humor. It is often subtle and obscure, and yet sometimes as obvious as say, a professor on the roof of an astronomy faculty building screaming at the student passerbys below, "Velikovsky was right!!! Velikovsky was right!!!" 😂
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3140 on: June 11, 2017, 10:56:06 AM »
Reason I ask is your IP states Georgia?
 

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« Reply #3141 on: June 11, 2017, 11:02:21 AM »
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Reason I ask is your IP states Georgia?

I'm not the best with computers so I'm not 100% what IP stands for but I assure you I live in Western Oregon and have never lived anywhere near Georgia.  Did I possibly fill something out incorrect while creating my profile on this forum?
 

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« Reply #3142 on: June 11, 2017, 11:03:56 AM »
It's a fingerprint kind of thingy...it's usually pretty accurate.

An IP (internet protocol) address, is in some ways similar to a house address, it tells a computer where on the internet an object is operating, be it router, webserver etc.
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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3143 on: June 11, 2017, 01:35:39 PM »
Update, after checking other sources it appears the IP address is pinging from Oregon. Two sources are placing it in Georgia, while more than two sources place the address in Oregon.

Sorry for the inconvenience this has caused. this should have been addressed further on my behalf...

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« Reply #3144 on: June 11, 2017, 05:25:31 PM »
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Hello I’m a long time lurker and follower of the DB Cooper Case.  By no means am I an expert nor claim to be one in regards to the specifics of the high jacking.  However what I can tell you is over the years I have read / interpreted many of the experts on the world wide web and discovered many of them seem to have very little understanding of the Columbia River and the surrounding terrain.  Some time ago an individual presented a story in which a man strolled out of the woods with a wounded knee and ended up slumped over near a small grocer in Carson Washington (or something close to that effect).  Now I don’t believe the story for a bit but what I did find surprising was the fact Bruce Smith stated he had to google where Carson WA was.  To be honest I was surprised at Bruce’s post.  Carson was most certainly in the realm of possibility and a long time Cooper investigator apparently was not familiar with the area.  I began to realize most folks on these forums have done most of their research from a sitting position directly in front of their computer.  Now before anybody gets defensive or upset this is no knock on anyone, frankly the computer is probably the best investigative tool society currently has.  Bruce Smith and I are on the complete opposite sides of spectrum but I absolutely enjoy his take and research on the case.  I like the outside of the box thinking and it’s a must because 46 years later this crime is still unsolved.
I’m an avid trapper / hunter & fisherman and spent 5 years of my life pounding the Washougal & Lewis river basins along with the Columbia River itself (hunting and fishing only as trapping is prohibited in Washington).  The greatest miss-understanding in my opinion on these website’s is the Tina Bar money find.  Folks seem to infatically and with great confidence state things about the money that are just straight up false in regards to how the money may or may have not ended up resting on the shores of the Columbia.  I constantly read things like Cooper must have died very close to the money find as there is no other way the money could have been found in the vicinity.  Or the other popular statement is the flight path is wrong.  As sure as I’m sitting here today that money is really no mystery to me.  I tend to believe the original drop zone is most likely the accurate one but I also won’t rule out the following tributaries:
Lewis River
East Fork Lewis
Washougal
Kalama
Coweeman
Toutle
And frankly several others however I believe above mentioned are the best bets
With that being said I will take my experience over to the Tina Bar thread.  And hopefully give a better understanding of the Columbia River to some folks who have never been on its banks so they can make judgement for themselves.

Has anyone ever put a numbered ping pong ball in these tributaries (or a log from a tree), and had it turn up at Tina Bar? Or anywhere even close to Tina Bar?

Do you work on VW's?

Hello Georger,
I think you’re poking a little fun at me which is fine with the “Do you work on VW’s”.  I work for an Environmental company throughout the Pacific Northwest identifying hazardous waste per the 40CFR and have so for many years.

Again I’m not sure if your making fun of me (maybe not I have a hard time reading your sense of humor at times) but I believe the stated test would be beneficial.  Sure the objects used may not end up at exactly at Tina Bar but it could give us a better idea of which tributary the money may have come from.  Or if possible at all.


You have to understand our sense of humor around here.  All in fun....

Anyway, Georger, I might want to try that little experiment with the ping pong balls -- Lewis River and the Washougal River for sure.   Kermit, what do you think?   Meyer
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3145 on: June 11, 2017, 06:50:47 PM »

Meyer,
Ping Pong balls in Lewis river ? I would assume they would work their way to the ocean if they didn't get caught up in something along the way. Lewis river enters Columbia river many miles downstream from Tina Bar. I fished the Columbia at Buoy 10 at its mouth. Current and Tidal affect there was very strong and several fisherman have lost their life on the Clatsop Spit there. However as Robert has mentioned, upriver as far as Portland it's not as strong a pull. I'd be more curious about dropping a 20 lb bag of fake money with a tracking device from the center of the Railroad Bridge ! Perhaps another bag with $5800. LOL. Any volunteers out there ? I think I see Meyer's hand up ! 😜👍😬
 

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Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Reply #3146 on: June 11, 2017, 08:49:29 PM »
supposedly, Jerry Thomas put ping pong balls in the Columbia from the Washougal area and the ping pong balls landed on Tbar  8)
 

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« Reply #3147 on: June 12, 2017, 03:19:05 AM »
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Meyer,
Ping Pong balls in Lewis river ? I would assume they would work their way to the ocean if they didn't get caught up in something along the way. Lewis river enters Columbia river many miles downstream from Tina Bar. I fished the Columbia at Buoy 10 at its mouth. Current and Tidal affect there was very strong and several fisherman have lost their life on the Clatsop Spit there. However as Robert has mentioned, upriver as far as Portland it's not as strong a pull. I'd be more curious about dropping a 20 lb bag of fake money with a tracking device from the center of the Railroad Bridge ! Perhaps another bag with $5800. LOL. Any volunteers out there ? I think I see Meyer's hand up ! 😜👍😬


Actually we would be putting Trapper's claim to the test.  Drop the balls in the Lewis River at the right time, spring runoff -- now, and see if the current behaves as he said -- he said it would not be out of the realm of possibility for a reverse current to take a floating object from the mouth of the Lewis River back up to Tina Bar (upstream).

Meyer
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« Reply #3148 on: June 12, 2017, 03:24:40 AM »
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supposedly, Jerry Thomas put ping pong balls in the Columbia from the Washougal area and the ping pong balls landed on Tbar  8)

Really?  I think I remember JT talking about that.... that seems to be no small thing....Washougal to Tina Bar??  Wow.  Meyer
 

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« Reply #3149 on: June 13, 2017, 04:58:07 PM »
Well, time after time, and some folks just don't get it  :)) :))

In accordance with Section 25(a) of the ProBoards Terms of Service, this forum has been taken offline.

Apparently, he started another forum....
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