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Title: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on January 27, 2018, 05:09:40 PM
POSTED BY BRUCE SMITH....

Personal News

Bob Sailshaw passed away early this morning. I just received an email announcement from his wife, Michele.

For those of us who knew him and interacted with him, we knew Sail as a passionate, cantankerous-but-kindly, and generous member of Cooper World. He got involved with us several years ago after redoing about our investigation of Sheridan Peterson, which began in the waning days of the DZ.

Sail knew Petey, and had been his Seattle landlord for one month in 1961 until he kicked him out for non-payment of rent. Later, in 1972, the FBI came knocking, asking about Peterson - and a flood of memories came rushing back from those 30 days.

Sail felt that Sheridan Peterson is DB Cooper because of the many uncanny things Petey said and did, such as his constant scheming, trying to develop the "System that Beat the System," a phrase that later appeared in Letter #3, further convincing Sail of his beliefs.

Sail and Pete also discussed the latter's days as a smokejumper in Montana, and his fearlessness in jumping into wilderness areas.

But most importantly, Sail started a "Salon" of Inquiry into the DB Cooper case. Every few months or so he would host a small luncheon at the Seattle Yacht Club - where he had been the Commodore - and invite members of the SYC who were knowledgeable of the case, along with selected Cooper sleuths. That is where I met Bob Sale, a long-time FBI agent at the Seattle Division, and other FBI agents, pilots, and skydivers. It was also the occasion that I met other Cooperites, such as Vicki Wilson and her daughter.

Sail always picked up the tab - he even met me at the bus stop when I was coming up from Tacoma.

Sail also arranged for us to go on a road trip to Eagle Creek, Oregon to speak with Ralph Hatley, the iconic skydiving champion and friend of Earl Cossey. Again, Sail took us all to lunch - this time accompanied by Sail's wife, Michele, too.

Sail was instrumental in helping me launch my DB Cooper book, and he and Michele came to one of my first book signings and public presentations. A year ago, Sail and Michele sold their house in Seattle where Petey had been a resident so-many years ago, and had just moved into a Condo in a lovely nearby neighborhood, so their roots were still intact.

Michele says that Sail's health deteriorated rapidly in November, and he spent most of December in the hospital. He was admitted into a rehab and assisted living facilities a few weeks ago, but was in hospice last week.

I will miss my friend, and I send his family many good wishes to move through this grieving time with strength and grace.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member
Post by: Shutter on January 27, 2018, 05:23:36 PM
I never got the chance to meet Bob. he seemed to be a really nice guy and will surely be missed on this forum. Sailshaw joined on February 25, 2014, 09:49:22 AM. this was one day after the opening of this forum. he was a trooper, stopping by the forum daily to stay caught up with all the crazy action with DB Cooper...

Bruce, please give my respects to the family..

Dave Brown
(aka Shutter)
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on January 27, 2018, 07:03:07 PM
I will certainly pass on your condolences, Shut.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on January 27, 2018, 08:04:24 PM
Sailshaw last posted on May 1, 2017....he only made 235 comments, but was here everyday several times a day..he will be missed.

DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:20:18 PM »
Georger   It looks like a definite FBI cover-up and that they know Sheridan Peterson is DB Cooper but are giving him cover as he was CIA in Vietnam. That is why the case remains unsolved even though there exists enough evidence pointing to Sheridan. His phony alibi that he was in Nepal delivering one of his two children is bogus as he had no children born in the same year a Norjak. That is a lie to the FBI and why would he lie if he was not DB Cooper? Anyway, we are lost if the FBI wants to stonewall the case. Also the DNA from the envelopes/flaps/stamps are a match with Sheridan, but we can't prove that thanks to the FBI Cover-up.
Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw00@gmail.com
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on January 27, 2018, 09:37:37 PM
Sail is the only Cooperite I know who stormed into the FBI HQ on 2nd Ave and demanded to talk with Curtis Eng. Not even I have done that!

Of course, Curtis said no thanks, but he did send "Jake and Jimmy" down to the lobby where they listened to Sail for an hour or two.

Now for a tough email - I gotta send a note to Jo.... whew.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Parrotheadvol on January 27, 2018, 09:59:33 PM
Sorry to hear about the loss of Bob Sailshaw. Thanks for the update Bruce.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: georger on January 27, 2018, 11:46:03 PM
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Sailshaw last posted on May 1, 2017....he only made 235 comments, but was here everyday several times a day..he will be missed.

DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:20:18 PM »
Georger   It looks like a definite FBI cover-up and that they know Sheridan Peterson is DB Cooper but are giving him cover as he was CIA in Vietnam. That is why the case remains unsolved even though there exists enough evidence pointing to Sheridan. His phony alibi that he was in Nepal delivering one of his two children is bogus as he had no children born in the same year a Norjak. That is a lie to the FBI and why would he lie if he was not DB Cooper? Anyway, we are lost if the FBI wants to stonewall the case. Also the DNA from the envelopes/flaps/stamps are a match with Sheridan, but we can't prove that thanks to the FBI Cover-up.
Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw00@gmail.com

Sail was certainly devoted to his suspect. Yes. He has already been missed here.  Bob leaves questions which have yet to be answered completely.
 
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: MarkBennett on January 27, 2018, 11:58:40 PM
The best thing I can say about Bob on this forum is he was consistent.  He often made his same point over and over again.  But unlike some others, he was never disagreeable or disruptive.

I met him a few years ago.  He was a nice man. RIP
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: 377 on January 28, 2018, 05:10:30 AM
Sailshaw (Dwight was his real name) was a delightful guy in person. He and his lovely wife Michelle visited me and my wife a few years ago. Dwight was 100% certain that Sheridan Peterson was D.B. Cooper and nothing could sway his belief. Having come to know Sheridan personally I think he is a superb candidate based on qualifications but doubt that he is DBC. Sheridan also has very blue eyes but Sailshaw was convinced he wore brown contacts to do the skyjacking.

Dwight was absolutely crazy about his wife Michelle and it was touching to see love burn so hot in an older couple. He was smart (degreed engineer) and a long time Boeing employee. He worked, among other projects, on the 737 side air stairs. He said Sheridan quizzed him about the 727 air stairs and when Dwight couldn’t answer his questions Sheridan got a job at Boeing in the tech documents dept.

I’ll miss Dwight. We shared interests in DBC, ham radio and boating. I’ll never forget him.

377



Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: DavidV on January 28, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
My condolences. I wish his family well.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: dice on January 28, 2018, 07:50:23 PM
That is terrible news.
I didnt know him however I enjoyed his unique writing cadence here, as he had this "you say: x.  I say: y" form of debate, and I don't think he deviated from it once.  Wouldn't it be something if he is right about Peterson.  I respectfully challenged him on Peterson, but I am to understand he was totally convinced, well, that might say something.   RIP MR. SAILSHAW. 
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: MeyerLouie on January 29, 2018, 04:09:40 AM
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That is terrible news.
I didnt know him however I enjoyed his unique writing cadence here, as he had this "you say: x.  I say: y" form of debate, and I don't think he deviated from it once.  Wouldn't it be something if he is right about Peterson.  I respectfully challenged him on Peterson, but I am to understand he was totally convinced, well, that might say something.   RIP MR. SAILSHAW.



Dwight and I spent a whole day at Tina Bar, then I took him home to Seattle -- the old house in the U-District -- where he and Michele had lived for so many years -- and I was honored to be invited to stay for dinner in their beautiful home.  Spending that day with Dwight was one of the great highlights of my experiences here. 

On another occasion, Bob invited me to the Seattle Yacht Club -- that was so much fun.  We spent hours talking about DBC and Petey, and the food and service were incredible -- and Bob graciously picked up the tab -- he would not hear anything about his guests picking up their tab at the Yacht Club.  Such an honorable and kind man.  Those days I spent with him  were rich.  I enjoyed them so much.  I will miss him a lot. 

I replied to Michele's email -- telling her I was so sorry for her loss.  Bob REALLY enjoyed his retirement.  You may not know that.  He was a pretty happy guy.

Bob gave me a CD, and I'm so glad to have it.  It will always remind of him.  I will be thinking of Michele during this most difficult time...

Meyer
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Check-Six on January 29, 2018, 02:16:18 PM
I hope he finds the truth in the Hereafter...
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: georger on January 30, 2018, 02:34:17 PM
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I hope he finds the truth in the Hereafter...

Sail kept chiding the FBI to do its homework and have stamps on a letter checked for dna. For all anyone knows, the FBI did precisely that. But, the FBI did go directly to Sheridan and got their swab not once, but possibly twice. The FBI then reported Sheridan was not DB Cooper, but Sail would not accept that. Sail continued to demand that the FBI test the stamps on the letter! So, here's to you Commodore. It's Saturday night at the Harbor Club dance:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsrk3xZqxPU   
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on February 02, 2018, 08:36:34 PM
Commemoration of Life: Dwight Shaw

A service to celebrate the life of Dwight Shaw, aka Bob Sailshaw, will be held on Tuesday, March 6th at the Seattle Yacht Club at 1 pm.

I intend to attend.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on February 03, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
Bruce, is Sailshaw being cremated?
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on February 03, 2018, 07:05:35 PM
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Bruce, is Sailshaw being cremated?

I don't know. I'm reluctant to ask his widow. Maybe closer to the commemoration day I'll ask.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on February 03, 2018, 07:19:21 PM
very tough question to ask....
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Lynn on February 05, 2018, 03:30:27 PM
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Commemoration of Life: Dwight Shaw

A service to celebrate the life of Dwight Shaw, aka Bob Sailshaw, will be held on Tuesday, March 6th at the Seattle Yacht Club at 1 pm.

I intend to attend.
I am so sorry to hear about Mr. (Sail)shaw. He provided more information on his favored suspect than anyone else had - and I'm still not 100% ready to remove SP from the top suspect list, though he is far from alone on it. I do wish Mr. Shaw could have known whether or not the FBI tested those stamps, at least for his own peace of mind. And (as for all of us), while I am agnostic, I HOPE there is an afterlife where all mysteries have answers, and all good sailors see each other in Fiddler's Green. My grandfather, who skippered a fishing schooner, could have told you all about Fiddler's Green. Here is the Irish Rovers' version. Fair sailing, Dwight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaRnXzEsB5U
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: dice on February 05, 2018, 03:44:54 PM
Awhile back, after Sail here made the claim of Peterson's DNA on the stamps, I was taken aback, and asked him to elaborate... He did not do so, and was the last posting he made here.  I wonder exactly what he knew or truly meant by his statement, and if it's a coincidence he stopped posting after making that claim. 
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Lynn on February 05, 2018, 03:53:37 PM
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Awhile back, after Sail here made the claim of Peterson's DNA on the stamps, I was taken aback, and asked him to elaborate... He did not do so, and was the last posting he made here.  I wonder exactly what he knew or truly meant by his statement, and if it's a coincidence he stopped posting after making that claim.
I believe his point was that if the DNA on the stamps matched Sheridan's, while it wouldn't prove the letter writer OR Sheridan were DBC, it would disprove Sheridan's alibi that he was in Nepal at the time of NORJAK. All the letters were postmarked on the US West Coast.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on February 05, 2018, 05:54:15 PM
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Awhile back, after Sail here made the claim of Peterson's DNA on the stamps, I was taken aback, and asked him to elaborate... He did not do so, and was the last posting he made here.  I wonder exactly what he knew or truly meant by his statement, and if it's a coincidence he stopped posting after making that claim.
I believe his point was that if the DNA on the stamps matched Sheridan's, while it wouldn't prove the letter writer OR Sheridan were DBC, it would disprove Sheridan's alibi that he was in Nepal at the time of NORJAK. All the letters were postmarked on the US West Coast.

Yep, that's exactly what he was implying...
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on February 05, 2018, 06:55:10 PM
I've lost a lot of friends and family lately...I have several songs I play every once in a while..I think this one is fitting for our fallen member...Mr. Sailshaw, you will be remembered..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: georger on February 05, 2018, 11:37:47 PM
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I've lost a lot of friends and family lately...I have several songs I play every once in a while..I think this one is fitting for our fallen member...Mr. Sailshaw, you will be remembered..

''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU

70 car pile up at Ames today due to the snow storm - 5 dead. 105 injured. Another foot predicted by week's end. People just will not slow down. 
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on February 06, 2018, 03:38:13 AM
I love Vince Gill. TY.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on March 05, 2018, 08:11:54 PM
posted earlier by Bruce Smith...


Commemoration of Life: Dwight Shaw

A service to celebrate the life of Dwight Shaw, aka Bob Sailshaw, will be held on Tuesday, March 6th at the Seattle Yacht Club at 1 pm.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Shutter on March 05, 2018, 08:45:50 PM
I see Sailshaw in this song.....

..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JREouTHpyJE
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on March 06, 2018, 04:09:23 AM
Yup.

I won't be able to make to Sail's commemoration service on Tuesday because of transportation issues, and I have to be back in Eatonville to take care of my neighbor's dog in the late afternoon. But I'll be toasting a cup o' java to Sail at 1 pm as the ceremony starts at the Seattle Yacht Club.

My condolences to Michele and their kids, all grown, so there'll be lots of family around.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: georger on March 06, 2018, 03:09:53 PM
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Yup.

I won't be able to make to Sail's commemoration service on Tuesday because of transportation issues, and I have to be back in Eatonville to take care of my neighbor's dog in the late afternoon. But I'll be toasting a cup o' java to Sail at 1 pm as the ceremony starts at the Seattle Yacht Club.

My condolences to Michele and their kids, all grown, so there'll be lots of family around.

Its the thought that counts. You have been a staunch supporter and friend to Sail for many years ... everyone knows that. But, you do need to finally do something about your transportation problem if you can. I always have this picture of you hold up in a shack riding a bicycle ... like you know who! One of these days you are going to have to get practical about life - like Sail was.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on March 06, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
I concur. However, the solution remains elusive.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: 377 on March 06, 2018, 04:14:59 PM
I wonder if someone can print out the forum obit comments about Sail and send them to Michelle.

I just have Sails email address and no other contact info.

He will sure be missed.

377
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: Bruce A. Smith on March 06, 2018, 04:17:56 PM
I have her snail mail address, and will be printing out copies of postings here as you suggest, 377. I have been doing that with emails that I've received, too.
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: 377 on March 06, 2018, 04:30:38 PM
Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

377
Title: Re: Loss Of A Member Bob Sailshaw
Post by: 377 on March 06, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
Sail was just crazy about Michelle. When they visited us in CA a few years ago, we went out for breakfast. Michelle and Sara were walking ahead of me and Sail. We were deeply involved in a DBC discussion, of course.

Sail paused, turned towards me and said quietly: "just look at them, aren't we two lucky guys?"

Indeed we are Sail.

Fair winds and smooth seas my friend.

377