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Offline malley

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1890 on: August 09, 2018, 12:17:21 PM »
Who was the real DB Cooper?

I'm not talking about the man who hijacked Flight 305, who as we know actually used the alias Dan Cooper. I mean the man actually named DB Cooper who was questioned by a reporter shortly after the hijacking. Does anyone here know who exactly he was? Forgive me if this has been asked before or is common knowledge around here, I'm relatively new to studying this case.

Wouldn't it be something if he was actually the hijacker all along?
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« Reply #1891 on: August 09, 2018, 02:09:42 PM »
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Who was the real DB Cooper?

I'm not talking about the man who hijacked Flight 305, who as we know actually used the alias Dan Cooper. I mean the man actually named DB Cooper who was questioned by a reporter shortly after the hijacking. Does anyone here know who exactly he was? Forgive me if this has been asked before or is common knowledge around here, I'm relatively new to studying this case.

Wouldn't it be something if he was actually the hijacker all along?

Local police and FBI agents immediately began questioning possible suspects. An Oregon man named D. B. Cooper who had a minor police record was one of the first persons of interest in the case. He was contacted by Portland police on the off-chance that the hijacker had used his real name or the same alias in a previous crime. He was quickly ruled out as a suspect, but a local reporter named James Long, rushing to meet a deadline, confused the eliminated suspect's name with the pseudonym used by the hijacker.[49][50] A wire service reporter (Clyde Jabin of UPI by most accounts,[51][52] Joe Frazier of the AP by others[53]) republished the error, followed by numerous other media sources; the moniker "D. B. Cooper" became lodged in the public's collective memory.[44]

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1892 on: August 09, 2018, 03:58:32 PM »
I appreciate the response but I'm looking for more specific information, ie. Date of birth? Occupation? Do we have a picture of him? Arrest records? Is he still alive? Did he have a wife and kids? Assuming his first name is Daniel, what does the B stand for? Etc. etc.

Just trying to figure out if we actually know who this guy is.
 

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« Reply #1893 on: August 09, 2018, 05:41:29 PM »
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I appreciate the response but I'm looking for more specific information, ie. Date of birth? Occupation? Do we have a picture of him? Arrest records? Is he still alive? Did he have a wife and kids? Assuming his first name is Daniel, what does the B stand for? Etc. etc.

Just trying to figure out if we actually know who this guy is.

At one time we had all of this but that was years ago. Maybe someone here remembers? Is there a reason for your interest?

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Early newspaper articles would give more details ...
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1894 on: August 10, 2018, 06:55:44 PM »
Thanks. I'll give it a look.

Mostly just curiosity. I just find it odd that the hijacker was named after some random guy who was at least briefly considered a suspect, and is still known to this day by that name instead of the name he actually used. I want to know more about this guy whose name accidentally became an icon of our culture. I wonder what he thought about it.
 

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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1895 on: September 04, 2018, 12:31:04 AM »
If Cooper, or at least the money, survived, in what ways could the bills be used without detection?   Spent a little at a time?  Do bank machines look at serial numbers?
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« Reply #1896 on: September 04, 2018, 09:40:10 AM »
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If Cooper, or at least the money, survived, in what ways could the bills be used without detection?   Spent a little at a time?  Do bank machines look at serial numbers?

This is a great question.

I spoke with Ayn Dietrich Williams about this a few years back. She confirmed my suspicions that the FBI really isn't certain whether the money re-entered circulation or not. She stated that the only way a bill would have been noticed was if someone manually compared a serial number to the pages-long list of Cooper's bills. Obviously this is highly unlikely, especially after some time has passed.

Furthermore, Sheridan Peterson opened a numbered bank account in Singapore in 1971. This was a very easy, and "protected" way to "launder" the money no-questions asked. After all, the purpose of these accounts was to draw in discreet money, primarily from the Middle East...that said, money from Seattle was welcome too.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1897 on: September 04, 2018, 11:33:46 AM »
Thanks EU.

I understand SP was living in Singapore, so opening a bank account alone wouldn't be all that suspicious.  Are there more details?  What is a 'numbered' bank account, no name attached to it?  How was revealed that he had the account?  Can the same source determine deposits, balances etc.?

You are great asset to this forum, nice for someone with only a passing interest to get questions answered, and without the rudeness, name calling and animosity that goes on.  Perhaps more people would get involved if not for all that.
 
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« Reply #1898 on: September 04, 2018, 11:51:03 AM »
$20 bills last an average of 7.7 years in circulation..

Did any money survive the jump with Cooper? we don't know

Could it have been laundered undetected? sure


All we know is none was ever found other than TBAR. Some were checking soon after the hijacking but as years went by I doubt anybody was checking $20 serial numbers. (other than a few sleuths)

As EU alludes,, if the money were taken overseas, no way it could have been detected.
 

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« Reply #1899 on: September 04, 2018, 01:00:44 PM »
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Thanks EU.

I understand SP was living in Singapore, so opening a bank account alone wouldn't be all that suspicious.  Are there more details?  What is a 'numbered' bank account, no name attached to it?  How was revealed that he had the account?  Can the same source determine deposits, balances etc.?

You are great asset to this forum, nice for someone with only a passing interest to get questions answered, and without the rudeness, name calling and animosity that goes on.  Perhaps more people would get involved if not for all that.

Sheridan was actually living in Nepal at the time, 2300 miles away.

The Government of Singapore passed a major overhaul of their banking system in 1970. These new banking regulations took effect on January 1, 1971. Included in these regulations were provisions that allowed for numbered bank accounts, similar to those in Switzerland.

Numbered bank accounts are completely confidential and allow the account holder to only be known by a number. Additionally, there are provisions built in the law that prohibit the bank from releasing any account information to authorities from other countries. Simply put, numbered accounts afford their owners the ability to utilize the banking system with complete anonymity which is favored by people who want to hide assets.

The catch is that the accounts require significant initial deposits to open. Nowadays, sums north of $1 million can be expected as a required initial deposit. Additionally, the fees are much higher than those associated with standard bank accounts.

Sheridan revealed the existence of his numbered account personally. I have documentation backing this up.
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Re: General Questions About The Case
« Reply #1900 on: September 05, 2018, 11:24:07 AM »
Sheridan reveals the bank account, delves into the parachute details.  Was he toying with the investigators? 
 
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« Reply #1901 on: September 05, 2018, 11:51:08 AM »
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Sheridan reveals the bank account, delves into the parachute details.  Was he toying with the investigators?

The FBI was unaware of the numbered bank account. Details regarding the dummy reserve strike me as simply not knowing what is public information. I do not believe he was toying with investigators, however, he has not explicitly denied being Cooper to the FBI which I consider odd. Even when he was asked on the History Channel documentary if he had been asked about being Cooper by the FBI he laughed it off and said, "I'm a nice guy."
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« Reply #1902 on: September 05, 2018, 12:26:18 PM »
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Sheridan reveals the bank account, delves into the parachute details.  Was he toying with the investigators?

The FBI was unaware of the numbered bank account. Details regarding the dummy reserve strike me as simply not knowing what is public information. I do not believe he was toying with investigators, however, he has not explicitly denied being Cooper to the FBI which I consider odd. Even when he was asked on the History Channel documentary if he had been asked about being Cooper by the FBI he laughed it off and said, "I'm a nice guy."

If it was a secret numbered bank account how can it be confirmed? (SP statements are unreliable)

and legislation passed in Jan 1971 but it wasn't implemented until 1972.. not started by (at least) March 1972..

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« Reply #1903 on: September 05, 2018, 12:32:00 PM »
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Sheridan reveals the bank account, delves into the parachute details.  Was he toying with the investigators?

The FBI was unaware of the numbered bank account. Details regarding the dummy reserve strike me as simply not knowing what is public information. I do not believe he was toying with investigators, however, he has not explicitly denied being Cooper to the FBI which I consider odd. Even when he was asked on the History Channel documentary if he had been asked about being Cooper by the FBI he laughed it off and said, "I'm a nice guy."

If it was a secret numbered bank account how can it be confirmed? (SP statements are unreliable)

and legislation passed in Jan 1971 but it wasn't implemented until 1972.. not started by (at least) March 1972..

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Sheridan's comments are absolutely reliable. I have yet to find a single example of him exaggerating about anything that he has done. When he says he did something, he did it. His memory is a steel trap and he remembers things in great detail

The Act was passed in 1970 and implemented January 1, 1971.
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« Reply #1904 on: September 05, 2018, 12:38:23 PM »
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Sheridan reveals the bank account, delves into the parachute details.  Was he toying with the investigators?

The FBI was unaware of the numbered bank account. Details regarding the dummy reserve strike me as simply not knowing what is public information. I do not believe he was toying with investigators, however, he has not explicitly denied being Cooper to the FBI which I consider odd. Even when he was asked on the History Channel documentary if he had been asked about being Cooper by the FBI he laughed it off and said, "I'm a nice guy."

If it was a secret numbered bank account how can it be confirmed? (SP statements are unreliable)

and legislation passed in Jan 1971 but it wasn't implemented until 1972.. not started by (at least) March 1972..

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I just read the article you linked.

If the article is accurate, then it appears the numbered bank accounts were not yet available in 1971. That would certainly prove that the account could not have been opened in 1971.
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