I'll just throw this out there:

I am willing to debate anyone--I mean anyone--concerning the validity of the FBI Flight Path versus the Western Flight Path on The Cooper Vortex.

I believe Darren would welcome this type of back-and-forth on his show. Moreover, it's very difficult to get much substantive across--and to counter-argue a point--in a web forum setting. On the other hand, a podcast affords both sides the opportunity to make points and counter-points in real-time and in a conversational manner.

So, again, as an advocate of the Western Flight Path, I welcome the opportunity to debate this matter on Darren's podcast (assuming he's willing to grant us the time) in a respectful and substantive manner so that others can listen and decide for themselves what sounds plausible and likely.

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Robert99 and others,

What physical, contemporaneous evidence is there that indicates a western flight path? So far all I’ve heard is anecdotal evidence decades after the fact.

Also, I’m not familiar with everyone’s pet theories, but some of you seem to suggest it involves government conspiracies and cover ups. That strikes me as a convenient “deus ex machine” when the evidence trail runs out.

Chaucer, if all you have heard is "anecdotal evidence" then you must have missed the posts above, and elsewhere, by EU, Bruce Smith, and others including myself.  In fact, I think you and I have been through this at least one or more times already.

Your acceptance at face value of the so-called "FBI Map" needs to be reconsidered.  First, I believe it was FBI agent Larry Carr who posted that map on DropZone and asked if anyone knew where it came from.  There is no proof that the FBI generated that map or that it came from the USAF.

The radar facility at McChord AFB was probably a joint operation between the DOD and the FAA.  It was probably manned by military personnel, civilian employees of DOD, and civilian employees of the FAA.

There is information online somewhere, and probably in 302s as well, that describes McChord AFB military personnel giving radar data and maps to what were apparently FBI agents.  There is also information online stating that apparently the same information was sent to the NWA headquarters in Minneapolis. 

Consequently, the so-called "FBI map" could be the work of DOD personnel, FBI agents, NWA personnel, all of the above, none of the above, little green men from Mars, or maybe some lunatic in a nut house.  Who knows?  But one thing is certain.  No airliner would fly a route like that under those circumstances.

To point out a very simple and easy to see problem with the "FBI Map", at one time the airliner had a constant ground speed of approximately 180 Knots (Nautical Miles Per Hour) and the map indicates it flew 3 Nautical Miles in one minute and 6 Nautical miles in the very next minute.  Would you care to attempt an explanation as to how that could have happened?  Other such oddities exist.

Lastly, the FBI flight path doesn't pass the smell test.  It simply does not make sense.

This is flat-out bs.

We have the history of who and what the evolution of the socalled FBI Flight Path is. Which by the way you contributed damned near nothing to! Others did the heavy lifting. You have been nothing more than a spectator during this whole affair eventually generating your own socalled WEST PATH which Sluggo allowed you to post on his site!

See the attached! 

Georger, other than your love for posting baloney to support your own theory, whatever it may be, there are other 302s and information that discuss how the data from McChord got TO NWA Minneapolis in the first place.  The 302 you posted describes information coming FROM Minneapolis.  And what was the basis for the initial jump location prediction and what was the time/date it was made?

And just exactly how did the "FBI Flight Path" evolve?  While the jump location has evolved, I don't remember seeing anything about the flight path evolving.

How is your book coming along?

The placard was found approximately two and a half miles EAST of the center line of V 23.