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Flight Path And Related Issues
georger:
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Register or LoginNobody should be surprised when suspect peddlers DONT WANT Cooper's genome known or explored!
I mean why destroy a free ride to fame and news coverage! Belittle anyone trying to open that box. Take the high road and claim you know more than they do. Claim they are trouble makers. Who cares about the actual case at issue!
It works every time! :congrats:
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Georger, except for the term "suspect peddler," you just described yourself.
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How so? Explain? I have no suspects. My only suspect is DB Cooper!
You have no interest in knowing Cooper's partial profile and if he had one eye or two? You have something against "loci" and vaccinations and education?
FACT* I have had the IGNORE button active on you for almost a year - I will no longer over ride the Ignore button to read your posts - My assessment is you have nothing of value. And it isn't worth the struggle trying to keep you happy! Bye bye.
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Register or LoginNobody should be surprised when suspect peddlers DONT WANT Cooper's genome known or explored!
I mean why destroy a free ride to fame and news coverage! Belittle anyone trying to open that box. Take the high road and claim you know more than they do. Claim they are trouble makers. Who cares about the actual case at issue!
It works every time! :congrats:
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Georger, except for the term "suspect peddler," you just described yourself.
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How so? Explain? I have no suspects. My only suspect is DB Cooper!
You have no interest in knowing Cooper's partial profile and if he had one eye or two? You have something against "loci" and vaccinations and education?
FACT* I have had the IGNORE button active on you for almost a year - I will no longer over ride the Ignore button to read your posts - My assessment is you have nothing of value. And it isn't worth the struggle trying to keep you happy! Bye bye.
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Are you sure you read my post right? Because I acknowledged that you didn't have any Cooper suspects.
And there's no sense in lying. Here's how you show people they have nothing of value:
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Let's do this then: Let's not try to narrow down the search area, lets widen it. Let's add the original flight path with any and all proposed flight paths, adjust for the strongest and mildest winds and directions, and get the biggest patch of land possible for a dropzone from a 727 in flight on that rough trajectory.
It's been fifty years. They've looked. The cops. The feds. The Guard. The treasure hunters. The land developers. The hunters and campers and fishermen and joggers and hikers and little kids. The freaks with metal detectors and planes. They've covered all of it. Every plot of land is owned by someone, and has been surveyed and sold probably several times each since '71, and they didn't mention a body clutching a bomb. Perhaps nobody looked hard enough? Or perhaps they didn't know what to look for?
Actually, they did. With all of the trash to be found in the woods, someone found a placard from a 727 rear stairs and correctly identified it. They knew the story. Everybody knew. And all they found was that and the money. And the money was found by a guy from Oklahoma, who still tied it to Cooper, because everybody knew what to look for. And they did. And they found nothing.
The flight path is only relevant if it can establish a search area. Fifty years has expanded and exhausted that search area, rendering the flight path meaningless except in the event that Bill Rataczak came out and said, "yeah, I flew East to drown the bastard," which he hasn't. And I have no reason not to believe him.
So using the concept of a calculated search perimeter, if a subject is on the run on foot, you calculate the distance they are capable of traveling during the time it took you to mobilize, and you set up a radius around the spot they started from. In this case, all of that is blown, because nobody was able to properly react. Cooper could have been long gone before any of them got close to his landing zone.
Is it possible that Cooper's body is there somewhere? Only as possible as logic will allow for. On Thanksgiving 1971, it was extremely possible. After the cops searched it was less possible. After the FBI and Nat'l Guard searched, even less. After the public searched all year, it became improbable. After all of the above searched for 50 years, we have to admit that the dingo ate the baby. Rather Cooper got away. OR that someone got away with robbing his corpse and burying him wrapped in his chute. Because the only thing worth taking is the money, which was partially found. Nothing else he had was found.
Try this: Go to Zillow.com and search for homes in that area to see how well-developed the land is now. Backhoes and diggers putting in sewers and foundations for half a century. No skyjackers found.
So what physical evidence would you look for, and where would you look?
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Too bad you werent around when Farflung was - you two would make a potent pair! Its refreshing to have some sound logic applied in this forum! :congrats:
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This carrot or stick technique, where you reward people (carrot) for agreeing with you then attack them (stick) for disagreeing with you, is a classic sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. There are coping skills that can be learned that can help repair damaged relationships in people's lives. It's worth looking into. In the meantime, you are utterly transparent.
EU:
Had an interesting talk with Shutter today which led to the realization that there are essentially six drop zones advocated in some manner or another:
1) FBI Drop Zone
2) Washougal Drop Zone
3) Cle Elum Drop Zone (Reca)
4) Columbia River Drop Zone (Near PDX)
5) Caterpillar Island Drop Zone (R99)
6) Ridgefield Drop Zone (EU)
With this in mind, it's interesting to consider each of these drop zones, the evidence, their viability, and the ability for each of them to provide answers for such things as: How did the money arrive at Tena Bar? or How did Cooper escape once he landed?
Bruce A. Smith:
Remember, there are two FBI drop zones. The first one was Amboy, circa 1971-1972.
The second one is Hockinson, circa 1975. This LZ is about 10 miles south of Amboy and is wide-open dairy lands. And within walking distance to PDX.... a long walk at 20 miles, but still...
Kermit:
A few posters have been aware I’ve contacted William Rataczak last August. I received a very nice response on Sept 11, 2019. I asked him only one question “ Did you see the lights of Portland/Vancouver on flight 305 ? “.
His direct answer was “ No, we did not see those lights that night; only their glow. The reason is that we were flying in heavy over and undercast skies. “ Since I was born about 25 miles from his present home, we exchanged a number of familiarities.
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