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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1170 on: May 01, 2017, 09:22:53 PM »
Interesting find here about the weather and the drop zone...
 

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« Reply #1171 on: May 01, 2017, 11:21:33 PM »
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Interesting find here about the weather and the drop zone...

Where does this come from - the source?
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1172 on: May 01, 2017, 11:27:56 PM »
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Interesting find here about the weather and the drop zone...

Where does this come from - the source?


FBI files from the FOIA Tom Colbert has been receiving...
 

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« Reply #1173 on: May 01, 2017, 11:50:12 PM »
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Interesting find here about the weather and the drop zone...

Where does this come from - the source?


FBI files from the FOIA Tom Colbert has been receiving...

any idea on the date? ...   here we go with those weather/wind variables again!
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1174 on: May 02, 2017, 12:11:32 AM »
Most of the files are dated 1976-77. no date on this file
 

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« Reply #1175 on: May 02, 2017, 12:13:57 AM »
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Most of the files are dated 1976-77. no date on this file

That's interesting. Remember there was that San Francisco conference on the case that presumably examined 'all important parameters' of the case. I was almost going to guess 1976 before your post. That's interesting. Thanks!
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1176 on: May 02, 2017, 12:18:25 AM »
Page above it is redacted where they were going to say something about the evening of 11/24/1971

"he recalls that night of 11/24/71. as being".........redacted  :-X

Page above it was part 1 of two pages.....3/1/77 was the date..
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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1177 on: May 03, 2017, 12:49:43 AM »
anyone know the size of the steps of the airstairs, and could the briefcase even rest on those steps without falling all the way down?
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« Reply #1178 on: May 03, 2017, 01:02:52 AM »
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anyone know the size of the steps of the airstairs, and could the briefcase even rest on those steps without falling all the way down?


Here is a vid of the stair operation and step angles, this one has no side panels but the stair angle could catch an attache if the stairs didn't go all the way down and they didn't..

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« Reply #1179 on: May 03, 2017, 02:13:48 AM »
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anyone know the size of the steps of the airstairs, and could the briefcase even rest on those steps without falling all the way down?


Here is a vid of the stair operation and step angles, this one has no side panels but the stair angle could catch an attache if the stairs didn't go all the way down and they didn't..



Cooper could have fallen on the peanut on the stairs and strangled with the briefcase he had tied around his neck while Tina looked and reported it later to Bruce Smith. ?
 

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« Reply #1180 on: May 03, 2017, 09:51:37 AM »
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anyone know the size of the steps of the airstairs, and could the briefcase even rest on those steps without falling all the way down?


Here is a vid of the stair operation and step angles, this one has no side panels but the stair angle could catch an attache if the stairs didn't go all the way down and they didn't..



Cooper could have fallen on the peanut on the stairs and strangled with the briefcase he had tied around his neck while Tina looked and reported it later to Bruce Smith. ?

and this comment helps the case how?
 

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« Reply #1181 on: May 03, 2017, 03:11:36 PM »
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anyone know the size of the steps of the airstairs, and could the briefcase even rest on those steps without falling all the way down?


Here is a vid of the stair operation and step angles, this one has no side panels but the stair angle could catch an attache if the stairs didn't go all the way down and they didn't..



Cooper could have fallen on the peanut on the stairs and strangled with the briefcase he had tied around his neck while Tina looked and reported it later to Bruce Smith. ?

and this comment helps the case how?

It is every bit as plausible as your conjectures about briefcase snagging on the stairs, Dorwin being a liar doing a walkback, your personal attacks against me, not to mention the fact you still refuse to provide evidence as to the date and place of the GG photo you cite as stair panel evidence. If you are going to use GG's photo as an illustration of some fact you contend is true at least tell us the date of the photo! Frankly, I dont think you know or care. You have avoided the question since it was posted. As I read your posts, you claim the GG photo represents the state of the stair panels AFTER the test, or right before the test (you arent even clear about that)  when in fact GG's photo may be from another date and time and place? I don't know sir. Im not the one making the claims; you are. It's a reasonable question given your claim -

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1182 on: September 20, 2017, 10:41:14 PM »
Didn't I read somewhere that at himmelsbachs's retirement party the airline captain talked to Ralph himmelsbach about the flight path and if not mistaken he told Ralph they were flying either east or west of the vector or I 5 cannot remember but it was different than was always believed
 

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Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Reply #1183 on: September 21, 2017, 12:04:23 AM »
Russ Calame reports that Captain Scott told Himms Flight 305 was west of V-23, flying over Woodland, WA.
 

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« Reply #1184 on: September 21, 2017, 12:28:59 AM »
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Didn't I read somewhere that at himmelsbachs's retirement party the airline captain talked to Ralph himmelsbach about the flight path and if not mistaken he told Ralph they were flying either east or west of the vector or I 5 cannot remember but it was different than was always believed

In all probability, the airliner left Victor-23 about the Malay Intersection (which is near Toledo) and flew direct to the area of the Canby Intersection south of Portland where it rejoined V-23.  This means that the airliner deliberately bypassed Portland on the west side and would have passed about 1000 feet west of Tina Bar at the time Cooper is believed to have jumped.  During the flight between the Malay and Canby Intersections, the airliner would have been receiving radar vectors to fly from the air traffic controller.

The above has been discussed at extreme lengths (at least to the point of extreme exhaustion!) on other threads on this site and on the DropZone site before that.  If you are interested in pursuing the matter further, I suggest you read some of those threads since they give reasons and go into greater details about the flight path.
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