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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2019, 09:17:08 AM »
If it was a matter of crunching numbers, which it wasn't. how is it that your crunching of numbers become spot on? you shouldn't be using anything connected to the known flight path since we have so many inaccuracies. you ride there coattail and discredit them at the sametime? isn't that like taking the word of a compulsive liar and using parts of his statements?
 

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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2019, 09:26:19 AM »
6) What role did Northwest Orient personnel play in reconstructing the flight path and why?

I don't think NWO had any role in the flight path other than use of the FDR. radio transcripts etc. speaking with Tom Kaye and reading the "hearsay" files the plotting of the jumpzone was done by Paul S. of NWO. one could assume the Air Force was given what they didn't have since it appears to have been a joint effort in the hijacking.

I doubt the FBI seen this far ahead to where everything they did comes under question and deserves answers?
 

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« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2019, 10:36:38 AM »
1) The 302s have many contradictions, which by definition means many are inaccurate.

2) If there is a 302 that has an FBI agent stating that the flight plots were from Air Force SAGE plots, it is absolutely hearsay unless the remark can actually be substantiated. Where did the FBI agent learn this info? Was it an assumption? Did an Air Force rep state "it probably came from SAGE," or some other such passing comment?

3) Just because the FBI is wrong about one thing does not mean they are wrong about everything.

4) If SAGE was in use then they would not need any additional info to plot the track. Therefore, when I hear that additional info was used to plot the track it is prudent for me to ask "Why?"

4) Finally, when dealing with the military there are other factors to consider. The Air Force may not be necessarily truthful because they have to concern themselves with national security, politics and public relations.
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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2019, 11:59:34 AM »
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Yes, it was intended to track and destroy aircraft that didn't belong in our airspace. that doesn't mean the radar system only relied on the planes while in the air. it was designed to work with the planes to get to it's target. the Sage guided them to the position. if they had problems with the plane that evening it doesn't mean the radar wasn't tracking properly...

Agree - here here! The system was more than adequate to tracking any plane within its range.

Okay, what was its range?  And where was the SAGE radar located?  Further, radar cannot penetrate mountain ranges.

So you are claiming SAGE had no range or inadequate range, couldnt see through mountains, and was located in the wrong place. Anything else!?  :rofl:

Why don't you just answer the questions?  Stonewalling won't get the job done.
 

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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2019, 12:10:13 PM »
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6) What role did Northwest Orient personnel play in reconstructing the flight path and why?

I don't think NWO had any role in the flight path other than use of the FDR. radio transcripts etc. speaking with Tom Kaye and reading the "hearsay" files the plotting of the jumpzone was done by Paul S. of NWO. one could assume the Air Force was given what they didn't have since it appears to have been a joint effort in the hijacking.

I doubt the FBI seen this far ahead to where everything they did comes under question and deserves answers?

The FDR's in 1971 did not contain sufficient information to determine the flight path.  The FDR only contained information about the aircraft systems, etc., and not the external navigation information that is needed to determine the flight path.
 

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« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2019, 03:53:08 PM »
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6) What role did Northwest Orient personnel play in reconstructing the flight path and why?

I don't think NWO had any role in the flight path other than use of the FDR. radio transcripts etc. speaking with Tom Kaye and reading the "hearsay" files the plotting of the jumpzone was done by Paul S. of NWO. one could assume the Air Force was given what they didn't have since it appears to have been a joint effort in the hijacking.

I doubt the FBI seen this far ahead to where everything they did comes under question and deserves answers?

The FDR's in 1971 did not contain sufficient information to determine the flight path.  The FDR only contained information about the aircraft systems, etc., and not the external navigation information that is needed to determine the flight path.

I never said the FDR could plot the flight path. it's a tool that was used just as others were.

I doubt the FBI even knew much about the Sage radar. to imply it's hearsay is silly. the Air Force played major rolls before, during and after. why are we scared of the Sage?
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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2019, 05:47:03 PM »
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6) What role did Northwest Orient personnel play in reconstructing the flight path and why?

I don't think NWO had any role in the flight path other than use of the FDR. radio transcripts etc. speaking with Tom Kaye and reading the "hearsay" files the plotting of the jumpzone was done by Paul S. of NWO. one could assume the Air Force was given what they didn't have since it appears to have been a joint effort in the hijacking.

I doubt the FBI seen this far ahead to where everything they did comes under question and deserves answers?

The FDR's in 1971 did not contain sufficient information to determine the flight path.  The FDR only contained information about the aircraft systems, etc., and not the external navigation information that is needed to determine the flight path.

I never said the FDR could plot the flight path. it's a tool that was used just as others were.

I doubt the FBI even knew much about the Sage radar. to imply it's hearsay is silly. the Air Force played major rolls before, during and after. why are we scared of the Sage?

SAGE - the link was bad..
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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2019, 12:54:23 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2019, 02:37:23 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2019, 02:39:57 PM »
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Total amateurish neurotic hogwash.
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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2019, 12:35:36 AM »
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Total amateurish neurotic hogwash.

Georger, have you done an analysis of the UNABOMBER, who is your stated choice for being Cooper?  If so, you should be aware that the UNABOMBER didn't have any social skills while  Cooper obviously did.
 

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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2019, 01:19:45 AM »
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Total amateurish neurotic hogwash.

Georger, have you done an analysis of the UNABOMBER, who is your stated choice for being Cooper?  If so, you should be aware that the UNABOMBER didn't have any social skills while  Cooper obviously did.

Learn how to read R99.
 

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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2019, 09:24:39 AM »
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Re: Eric Ulis (You Tube Channel)
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2019, 12:27:24 PM »
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