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« Reply #885 on: April 06, 2019, 01:47:58 PM »
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Investigating Sheridan Peterson is a legitimate undertaking. After all, he has been investigated twice by the FBI and he appeared on the HC docu where he seemed proud to be a key suspect.

However, doing a thorough investigation properly is a bit tricky, I agree. As far as I can tell, Eric has used discernment, sound judgment and tact in his approach to Sheridan and his family.

Remember, Sheridan went ballistic when I interviewed his brother and then wrote about it.

Also, when I interviewed some of Sheridan's former neighbors in the Windsor senior living community, one woman seemed genuinely afraid of Sheridan. She told me she was convinced that Sheridan killed his wife. So, imo inquiring into Sheridan's life often requires some strong digging.
  Bruce, could you elaborate a bit more on those last two points? I do recall an article you did about delivering a package for Sheridan, but have been unable to find the interview with his brother (Alden?) and sister-in-law. (I do recall Sheridan somewhere referring to them in rather disparaging terms.) The death of the Filipina wife has always been interesting to me, bearing in mind communication/other technology in 1971 and the conditions in both Nepal and the Philippines at the time. (My sister, in Negros in the 1990s, experienced regular brown-outs, and as I also experienced in Thailand around the same time, it wasn't always easy to communicate with people in other countries except by mail. How did Sheridan & his wife, living even without running water in Nepal, get word that her mother in the Philippines was so ill in time for her to travel to do something about it? Where did she get money to travel? Did both the wife and her mother die in the Philippines, and of what illness? None of this need be seen as suspicious, but I do find it interesting, having been to places that felt 99.99% cut off from the rest of the world far later than 1971.) And Bruce, is the updated version of your book available in e-format yet? Happy Saturday, everybody.  :chr2:
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Re: DB Cooper: The Definitive Investigation
« Reply #886 on: April 06, 2019, 02:43:04 PM »
One more thing; does it even matter if SP actually had a numbered account? Wouldn't even claiming he did when he didn't point to something shady? Obviously having one is far shadier, and blows his Nepal alibi, but even saying he had one raises flags. It doesn't mean the flags point to DBC - he could have been a secret agent of some sort, say, and not necessarily for his own govt - but it doesn't make him less suspicious.
 

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« Reply #887 on: April 07, 2019, 04:26:43 AM »
I believe I did write up a MN article on my interview with Sheridan's brother, Alden, and SP's sister-in-law, Barbara, if I recall her name correctly. If you can't find it, I'll dig in my notes.

As for the wife, the current word is that SP's wife is alive in the Philippines. That's according to EU and his communications with SP's first family - Claire, and their son Robert. Ol' Petey's got some 'splaining to do.

The people that I would really like to speak with are Petey's kids that traveled with him after Nepal. But they are resistant. I called Ginger and the guy who answered hung up on me - like my one phone call to Sheridan himself back when. Further, I've felt that reaching out to SP III is not wise at this time, and I've deferred to EU's efforts for contact.

I'm not pushing SP any further than that. Others have a better rapport with him, such as it is, and here I'm thinking of 377 and EU. I'm letting them do the heavy lifting, and EU has given us a lot of great new information in the past year or so. I trust that he will continue.
 

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« Reply #888 on: April 07, 2019, 04:27:53 AM »
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One more thing; does it even matter if SP actually had a numbered account? Wouldn't even claiming he did when he didn't point to something shady? Obviously having one is far shadier, and blows his Nepal alibi, but even saying he had one raises flags. It doesn't mean the flags point to DBC - he could have been a secret agent of some sort, say, and not necessarily for his own govt - but it doesn't make him less suspicious.

I concur. But it is interesting....
 

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« Reply #889 on: April 07, 2019, 12:39:15 PM »
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I believe I did write up a MN article on my interview with Sheridan's brother, Alden, and SP's sister-in-law, Barbara, if I recall her name correctly. If you can't find it, I'll dig in my notes.

As for the wife, the current word is that SP's wife is alive in the Philippines. That's according to EU and his communications with SP's first family - Claire, and their son Robert. Ol' Petey's got some 'splaining to do.

The people that I would really like to speak with are Petey's kids that traveled with him after Nepal. But they are resistant. I called Ginger and the guy who answered hung up on me - like my one phone call to Sheridan himself back when. Further, I've felt that reaching out to SP III is not wise at this time, and I've deferred to EU's efforts for contact.

I'm not pushing SP any further than that. Others have a better rapport with him, such as it is, and here I'm thinking of 377 and EU. I'm letting them do the heavy lifting, and EU has given us a lot of great new information in the past year or so. I trust that he will continue.

I continue to work on the Sheridan story. I have come frustratingly close at times to proving he is DBC but always come up a little short.

Examples of this would be:

1) His Filipina wife: Multiple members of his family say she was alive into the 2000s. Yet Sheridan stated she died in 1977 in the Philippines. If this is true--which has been very difficult to verify--it means Sheridan lied to the FBI during his 2003 interviews. Of course, even if he did lie it doesn't prove he was DBC, but it is highly suspect considering the FBI wanted to speak with her.

2) His knowledge of the dummy reserve in 2003 FBI interview: I've talked at length about his references to the dummy reserve being daisy-chained. Why would he mention this to the FBI if he didn't really know? The problem here is that I have been unable to verify if it was daisy-chained.

3) His knowledge of the emergency rig in his 2003 FBI interview: Sheridan told the FBI that DBC jumped with and emergency rig in his 2003 interview. How would he know this? After all, I've looked into this and couldn't find any official comment stating an emergency rig was used by DBC before this 2003 interview. And as it were we learned after 2003 that, in fact, DBC did jump with an emergency rig. Again, how did Sheridan know this? At this point I thought I had him nailed until I discovered that Tosaw referenced the NB6 in two sentences in his 1984 book. So, even though Sheridan lived out of the country almost the entire time until 1999, it is theoretically possible that he picked up this nugget, believed it, and  committed it to memory by reading Tosaw's book two decades later.

4) Numbered bank account: Sheridan said he had a secret bank account in 1971. I really don't know why he'd lie about that. I can't point to a single boast on his part that hasn't been true. Yet, even if he had a numbered bank account flush with cash it still doesn't prove the money came from 305. But, it is highly suspicious.

5) The DNA: Sheridan is one of three suspects known to have had a DNA comparison. Two of the three have been publicly cleared by the FBI. On the other hand, Sheridan has not. Why? I've tried to get this from the FBI but they will say nothing. I even asked Sheridan to get the info from the FBI--after all, he's the subject of the test--and told him if the results were negative per the FBI's test that I'd publicly say as much. I provided Sheridan the materials to make the request and it would cost him nothing...but, of course, Sheridan refused. Again, why?

I could go on an on about this. In fact, I'm updating my report with a significant amount of new information and am having it properly published in book form. Also, I'v been working with a production company about a DBC documentary that focuses on Sheridan. All of this should be out within the year.
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« Reply #890 on: April 07, 2019, 03:43:12 PM »
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I believe I did write up a MN article on my interview with Sheridan's brother, Alden, and SP's sister-in-law, Barbara, if I recall her name correctly. If you can't find it, I'll dig in my notes.

As for the wife, the current word is that SP's wife is alive in the Philippines. That's according to EU and his communications with SP's first family - Claire, and their son Robert. Ol' Petey's got some 'splaining to do.

The people that I would really like to speak with are Petey's kids that traveled with him after Nepal. But they are resistant. I called Ginger and the guy who answered hung up on me - like my one phone call to Sheridan himself back when. Further, I've felt that reaching out to SP III is not wise at this time, and I've deferred to EU's efforts for contact.

I'm not pushing SP any further than that. Others have a better rapport with him, such as it is, and here I'm thinking of 377 and EU. I'm letting them do the heavy lifting, and EU has given us a lot of great new information in the past year or so. I trust that he will continue.

I continue to work on the Sheridan story. I have come frustratingly close at times to proving he is DBC but always come up a little short.

Examples of this would be:

1) His Filipina wife: Multiple members of his family say she was alive into the 2000s. Yet Sheridan stated she died in 1977 in the Philippines. If this is true--which has been very difficult to verify--it means Sheridan lied to the FBI during his 2003 interviews. Of course, even if he did lie it doesn't prove he was DBC, but it is highly suspect considering the FBI wanted to speak with her.

2) His knowledge of the dummy reserve in 2003 FBI interview: I've talked at length about his references to the dummy reserve being daisy-chained. Why would he mention this to the FBI if he didn't really know? The problem here is that I have been unable to verify if it was daisy-chained.

3) His knowledge of the emergency rig in his 2003 FBI interview: Sheridan told the FBI that DBC jumped with and emergency rig in his 2003 interview. How would he know this? After all, I've looked into this and couldn't find any official comment stating an emergency rig was used by DBC before this 2003 interview. And as it were we learned after 2003 that, in fact, DBC did jump with an emergency rig. Again, how did Sheridan know this? At this point I thought I had him nailed until I discovered that Tosaw referenced the NB6 in two sentences in his 1984 book. So, even though Sheridan lived out of the country almost the entire time until 1999, it is theoretically possible that he picked up this nugget, believed it, and  committed it to memory by reading Tosaw's book two decades later.

4) Numbered bank account: Sheridan said he had a secret bank account in 1971. I really don't know why he'd lie about that. I can't point to a single boast on his part that hasn't been true. Yet, even if he had a numbered bank account flush with cash it still doesn't prove the money came from 305. But, it is highly suspicious.

5) The DNA: Sheridan is one of three suspects known to have had a DNA comparison. Two of the three have been publicly cleared by the FBI. On the other hand, Sheridan has not. Why? I've tried to get this from the FBI but they will say nothing. I even asked Sheridan to get the info from the FBI--after all, he's the subject of the test--and told him if the results were negative per the FBI's test that I'd publicly say as much. I provided Sheridan the materials to make the request and it would cost him nothing...but, of course, Sheridan refused. Again, why?

I could go on an on about this. In fact, I'm updating my report with a significant amount of new information and am having it properly published in book form. Also, I'v been working with a production company about a DBC documentary that focuses on Sheridan. All of this should be out within the year.

One thing about Sheridan is his passive-aggressive stance re- the Cooper Hijacking. At one moment he's an expert on it, then he claims to know nothing (says it wasn't him and he wasn't even in the USA at the time). He's hard to take seriously. Nothing about Sheridan seems to be set in stone except he did have high level parachuting skills at one time - that were demonstrated. Then he turns around and lives the life of a hermit-fugitive! He's had a kind of Protester's schizophrenic life which makes sense at one level but then he turns around wanting social service and support, and recognition, ... and it turns out he really isnt the impoverished hapless hermit not even when he was living in Tibet. He actually had a rather full life over there by most accounts of people who have been there ?
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« Reply #891 on: April 07, 2019, 04:27:44 PM »
Yup. T'is a puzzlement...
 

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« Reply #892 on: April 07, 2019, 05:00:50 PM »
Sheridan really is a walking contradiction. That said, part of why I like him as DB Cooper is because Sheridan is not a career criminal and because he marches to the beat of his own drum and has no problem with keeping secrets. Sheridan's ex, Claire, with whom I've had a lot of conversations and can say I know quite well, has fleshed out a lot about Sheridan's personality. I must say it isn't all negative. It is best described as multi-faceted.
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« Reply #893 on: April 07, 2019, 11:43:49 PM »
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Sheridan really is a walking contradiction. That said, part of why I like him as DB Cooper is because Sheridan is not a career criminal and because he marches to the beat of his own drum and has no problem with keeping secrets. Sheridan's ex, Claire, with whom I've had a lot of conversations and can say I know quite well, has fleshed out a lot about Sheridan's personality. I must say it isn't all negative. It is best described as multi-faceted.

and I question if he even has a drum! ?  multi-faceted and contradictory? But a lot of Vietnam vets wound up in his position ... and some still are today. The same is true of some WWII and Korea vets. Good luck to them all, and the families left left behind.
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« Reply #894 on: May 16, 2019, 05:31:02 PM »
I have tried to explain how Sheridan could have known that DBC jumped with an emergency rig per his written comments that this is what he told the FBI in 2003 before anything official was mentioned regarding DBC's use of the NB6. This along with his comment about the daisy chained dummy reserve has been very incriminating in my mind. Obviously if he demonstrated unique knowledge regarding the equipment that was known only to the authorities that would be quite close to a smoking gun.

All of that said, I think I have a rational explanation that occurred to me last night that actually helps Sheridan's claims of innocence. And, out of a commitment to intellectual honesty I feel if I should explain my theory here.

Here it goes:

I re-read Sheridan's 2007 Smokejumper article in which he describes his interview with the FBI in 2003. On top of that, I re-read Musika Farnsworth's series about Cooper printed in Parachutist in 2010.

I noticed something quite odd about Sheridan's 2007 comments in Smokejumper and Earl Cossey's 2010 comments in the Parachutist article. Specifically, Sheridan described his conversation with the FBI and says that he mentioned that all four parachutes were picked out by someone at Issaquah Sky Sports and sent to the airport. And, that these parachutes included a sport parachute along with an emergency rig. Moreover, that Cooper jumped with the "inferior" emergency rig.

The notable thing is that this is incorrect. All four parachutes did not come from Issaquah Sky Sports. Furthermore, Cooper did not receive a sport rig along with the emergency rig.

Interestingly, this is also precisely the same scenario Cossey described in the 2010 Parachutist article. In other words, all four parachutes came from someone at Issaquah Sky Sports, and Cooper received a sport rig with the emergency rig. Moreover, that he made an inferior choice.

Obviously to read the same incorrect account from both Sheridan in 2007, discussing his comments made in 2003, and Cossey in 2010 was perplexing. However, there is an explanation.

To begin, the Musika article written in 2010 was a slightly modified re-print of an article that she wrote for Parachutist in November 2003, several months after Sheridan had his FBI interviews. I believe what happened is that Sheridan, as a member of the United States Parachute Association, received a copy of the November 2003 edition of Parachutist and read Musika's article along with Cossey's account of what happened on November 24, 1971. Then, in 2007, when Sheridan wrote his Smokejumper article recounting his 2003 FBI encounter, he mistakenly thought he actually mentioned the things to the FBI that he read about from Cossey in the November 2003 Musika article.

What this means if this is accurate is that Sheridan did not demonstrate any special knowledge regarding Cooper's parachutes. Obviously this supports the notion that he is innocent.

Also, I now think it is likely Sheridan was not aware that he was a suspect in the NORJAK case until he was approached by the FBI in 2003. I have always assumed that he discovered this fact within months of the skyjacking. This may explain why Mary Jean Fryar stated that Sheridan seemed to enjoy being a suspect. Additionally, according to Sheridan's son Mark, when Sheridan took part in a smokejumper reunion in Boise in April 2007 he (Sheridan) openly bragged about being interviewed by the FBI. Again, he seemed to enjoy the attention.

All of this helps Sheridan's claim of innocence in my mind. It makes sense. Sheridan's memory had simply faded over the years and some details had been changed innocently enough.

All of this said, Sheridan no longer enjoys the attention. And, I still have some very real questions about the secret bank account in Singapore in 1971 which cannot be accurate. The Filipina wife story. The DNA saga. And, his apparently false alibi. Not to mention his uncanny knack for checking all of the DBC boxes.

This is a strange case indeed.
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« Reply #895 on: May 21, 2019, 01:17:06 PM »
Glad to see EU publish facts that point more towards Sheridan's innocence than guilt. That's admirable. It's so easy to let bias creep in and cherry pick evidence that supports your theory, ignoring evidence to the contrary. I have even found my self doing this on occasion. It's an easy trap to fall into.

EU actually helped Sheridan out of a jam that nearly got him evicted. EU intervened and was very effective. I've done similar things. It seems Sheridan frequently gets sideways with those who occupy positions of authority.

Georger wrote: "One thing about Sheridan is his passive-aggressive stance re- the Cooper Hijacking. At one moment he's an expert on it, then he claims to know nothing (says it wasn't him and he wasn't even in the USA at the time). He's hard to take seriously. Nothing about Sheridan seems to be set in stone except he did have high level parachuting skills at one time - that were demonstrated. Then he turns around and lives the life of a hermit-fugitive! He's had a kind of Protester's schizophrenic life which makes sense at one level but then he turns around wanting social service and support, and recognition, ... and it turns out he really isnt the impoverished hapless hermit not even when he was living in Tibet. He actually had a rather full life over there by most accounts of people who have been there ?"

Good summary of this enigmatic man's life G. I've probably spent more face to face time with Sheridan than anybody else on the forum. He is a fascinating person, very intelligent, up to date on everything in world news and politics and charming as well. But that's only one side of him. Multi-faceted is a good description. There is rage burning inside of this man. Peacenik Pete's vision for those who he considers war criminals is certainly not a pacifist approach.

I still find it curious that despite his expressed desire to see his novel published and widely read, at every turn he has taken action to ensure the exact opposite. He originally offered this semi-autobiographic work online until posts on Dropzone called out a number of curious parallels to Norjack. Then POOF, it disappeared. He later claimed Amazon dropped it, but that simply isn't true. Blevins and Snow attempted to help him edit and republish the work. Sheridan engaged deeply with Snow, who put a huge amount of work into much-needed editing without gutting or muting Sheridan's raw voice. In the end, they couldn't come to terms about what would get published. The dispute had nothing to do with money. Snow did all his work free.

Sheridan is literally the perfect candidate skills-wise, but capability doesn't equate to culpability. When he told the History Channel interviewers that he could have made the jump he was right. He had all the skills and then some. USFS Smokejumper, so wilderness landings were no big deal to him. He was an expert in most things related to skydiving. USPA rated Instructor. USPA D license (Expert). Wingsuit pioneer. Fearless. He jumped gear in China that I never would have even considered. No cutaway capability and questionable quality.

He got into some minor beef with me over a year ago and cut off communication. It has always been up and down. You will recall his delight with the holiday cheer baskets I sent him was followed by accusations that I was CIA and FBI. My wife really likes him and wants to know when Sheridan and I will patch things us so we can visit him again.

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« Reply #896 on: May 21, 2019, 11:56:33 PM »
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Glad to see EU publish facts that point more towards Sheridan's innocence than guilt. That's admirable. It's so easy to let bias creep in and cherry pick evidence that supports your theory, ignoring evidence to the contrary. I have even found my self doing this on occasion. It's an easy trap to fall into.

EU actually helped Sheridan out of a jam that nearly got him evicted. EU intervened and was very effective. I've done similar things. It seems Sheridan frequently gets sideways with those who occupy positions of authority.

Georger wrote: "One thing about Sheridan is his passive-aggressive stance re- the Cooper Hijacking. At one moment he's an expert on it, then he claims to know nothing (says it wasn't him and he wasn't even in the USA at the time). He's hard to take seriously. Nothing about Sheridan seems to be set in stone except he did have high level parachuting skills at one time - that were demonstrated. Then he turns around and lives the life of a hermit-fugitive! He's had a kind of Protester's schizophrenic life which makes sense at one level but then he turns around wanting social service and support, and recognition, ... and it turns out he really isnt the impoverished hapless hermit not even when he was living in Tibet. He actually had a rather full life over there by most accounts of people who have been there ?"

Good summary of this enigmatic man's life G. I've probably spent more face to face time with Sheridan than anybody else on the forum. He is a fascinating person, very intelligent, up to date on everything in world news and politics and charming as well. But that's only one side of him. Multi-faceted is a good description. There is rage burning inside of this man. Peacenik Pete's vision for those who he considers war criminals is certainly not a pacifist approach.

I still find it curious that despite his expressed desire to see his novel published and widely read, at every turn he has taken action to ensure the exact opposite. He originally offered this semi-autobiographic work online until posts on Dropzone called out a number of curious parallels to Norjack. Then POOF, it disappeared. He later claimed Amazon dropped it, but that simply isn't true. Blevins and Snow attempted to help him edit and republish the work. Sheridan engaged deeply with Snow, who put a huge amount of work into much-needed editing without gutting or muting Sheridan's raw voice. In the end, they couldn't come to terms about what would get published. The dispute had nothing to do with money. Snow did all his work free.

Sheridan is literally the perfect candidate skills-wise, but capability doesn't equate to culpability. When he told the History Channel interviewers that he could have made the jump he was right. He had all the skills and then some. USFS Smokejumper, so wilderness landings were no big deal to him. He was an expert in most things related to skydiving. USPA rated Instructor. USPA D license (Expert). Wingsuit pioneer. Fearless. He jumped gear in China that I never would have even considered. No cutaway capability and questionable quality.

He got into some minor beef with me over a year ago and cut off communication. It has always been up and down. You will recall his delight with the holiday cheer baskets I sent him was followed by accusations that I was CIA and FBI. My wife really likes him and wants to know when Sheridan and I will patch things us so we can visit him again.

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« Reply #897 on: May 22, 2019, 03:55:53 PM »
Any thoughts on Pete's family dramas, 377? SP III apparently turned down a request from Eric for a chat, and when I called Ginger a middle-aged man answered and then hung-up on me. Then we've gotten strange info from Claire and her son in Boise. Namely, the wife in the Philippines is still alive.

Maybe your wife can initiate a conversation with Pete on these subjects?
 

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« Reply #898 on: May 22, 2019, 04:49:29 PM »
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So Sheridan does not fear the publication of his book. I was wrong. Perhaps he was a perfectionist who insisted on getting it just right if outside editing was to be done.  A new epilogue has been added and it's maddening.

Epilogue (last paragraph):

"One day the FBI paid Olson a visit. They wanted to know about his old pal, Vince Grecco. A Vietnamese pilot told them about the American whoʹd parachuted from his chopper into Viet Cong territory. Months later an Arvin patrol found Vinceʹs skydiving rig hidden in some brush. His rigger’s log was tucked inside the reserveʹs container. That was the last Grant ever heard of Vince. He thought of him often. He imagined him hiding out in some Montagnard village. What a life that must be? In a way, Grant envied him."

The FBI visit and rigger packing card references are well noted. Is Sheridan taunting the Vortex dwellers? Of course he is. 

Special Agent MJ Fryar called him the most interesting person she had ever interviewed during her FBI career. He's still fit, good looking and mentally sharp at age 93. Was he DB Cooper? We will likely never know. Sheridan had all the qualifications and skills but nothing ties him directly to the crime.

Happy 93'd birthday, Sheridan. Hope you make the century mark.

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« Reply #899 on: May 22, 2019, 06:21:00 PM »
I just bought a copy. Apparently it will arrive by Thursday. #stoked
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