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Parrotheadvol:
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Someone refresh me here. 

Cooper is sitting to the right of Tina.  She lights his cigarettes for him.

Is he smoking with his left hand, and his right hand is always in the briefcase?  I thought I read somewhere that Flo was the one that said he had his hand in the briefcase the whole time.  The whole time in this case would not have been long if it was Flo talking.  Maybe it was Tina.  But he had it in there from takeoff in Portland all the way until when? When he counts the money?  He drinks with one hand too?  It's a long time to have your hand in the briefcase.

Let's get creative here.  Why else would he keep his hand in the briefcase?  Tina is pretty harmless, he seems to like her, and she is ok with him.  It's not like she is going to overpower him.

Possibilities:

He really is afraid that he will need to set off the bomb and wants to keep his hands close
He has a gun in there and wants it close
He has a watch on, or some identifying jewelry
He has a scar or a tattoo or a mark on his hand
His hands give him away as blue collar and not the hands of a businessman

EU, Shutter, Martin, Bruce, couple of other guys, you think out of the box, what are some ideas?

By the way, in the 1970 movie Airport, a deranged man makes a briefcase bomb with dynamite and wires and carries it on a plane.  He uses a deadman switch, a little sliver of wood attached to a string.  This movie is said to have been one of the first "disaster" type movies of the new genre.

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The left-handed versus right-handed question is one I have thought about a lot.

I'm surprised that there are very few references in the FBI files regarding which hand DBC used. If it could be determined that DBC was left-handed that would narrow the field down close to 95% given the way children were forced to use their right hands back in the old days (20's and 30's).

Of note, Bill Mitchell does mention that DBC had his left-hand in the case--I assume when the case is sitting on DBC's lap.

Beyond that, the case sitting on seat 18F--on Cooper's right--necessitates DBC using his right hand at this point which is meaningless. This can be extended to Cooper smoking with his left hand (not mentioned in the FBI files), this too would also be meaningless.

All told, I suspect DBC was left-handed given Bill Mitchell's testimony. After all, if the case is sitting on his lap this is a non-biased action which gives DBC the opportunity to utilize the hand he favors.

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Perhaps. But if the bomb was fake, then does it really matter which hand he had in there? In that scenario, his right hand is free to use if necessary, perhaps suggesting he is a righty.

georger:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginOnly as last resort...I don't think he believed it would happen..it's possible it could of......

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Someone refresh me here. 

Cooper is sitting to the right of Tina.  She lights his cigarettes for him.

Is he smoking with his left hand, and his right hand is always in the briefcase?  I thought I read somewhere that Flo was the one that said he had his hand in the briefcase the whole time.  The whole time in this case would not have been long if it was Flo talking.  Maybe it was Tina.  But he had it in there from takeoff in Portland all the way until when? When he counts the money?  He drinks with one hand too?  It's a long time to have your hand in the briefcase.

Let's get creative here.  Why else would he keep his hand in the briefcase?  Tina is pretty harmless, he seems to like her, and she is ok with him.  It's not like she is going to overpower him.

Possibilities:

He really is afraid that he will need to set off the bomb and wants to keep his hands close
He has a gun in there and wants it close
He has a watch on, or some identifying jewelry
He has a scar or a tattoo or a mark on his hand
His hands give him away as blue collar and not the hands of a businessman

EU, Shutter, Martin, Bruce, couple of other guys, you think out of the box, what are some ideas?

By the way, in the 1970 movie Airport, a deranged man makes a briefcase bomb with dynamite and wires and carries it on a plane.  He uses a deadman switch, a little sliver of wood attached to a string.  This movie is said to have been one of the first "disaster" type movies of the new genre.

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The left-handed versus right-handed question is one I have thought about a lot.

I'm surprised that there are very few references in the FBI files regarding which hand DBC used. If it could be determined that DBC was left-handed that would narrow the field down close to 95% given the way children were forced to use their right hands back in the old days (20's and 30's).

Of note, Bill Mitchell does mention that DBC had his left-hand in the case--I assume when the case is sitting on DBC's lap.

Beyond that, the case sitting on seat 18F--on Cooper's right--necessitates DBC using his right hand at this point which is meaningless. This can be extended to Cooper smoking with his left hand (not mentioned in the FBI files), this too would also be meaningless.

All told, I suspect DBC was left-handed given Bill Mitchell's testimony. After all, if the case is sitting on his lap this is a non-biased action which gives DBC the opportunity to utilize the hand he favors.

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Perhaps. But if the bomb was fake, then does it really matter which hand he had in there? In that scenario, his right hand is free to use if necessary, perhaps suggesting he is a righty.

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Since nobody has built versions of his bomb and tried them, nobody knows . . .  :-\

Why didnt anyone ask the stews what hand they thought he favored?  :-\

georger:
Anyone know where this page and its accompanying pages are from - - - DB Cooper 2859 ?

FLYJAVCK published it at DZ but as usual gave no context or the adjoining pages .... where can the whole doc be found with the adjoining pages 1, 3, etc?

FJ is using this page to claim Cooper was 'right handed' by how he carried the bomb to the Lav in his left hand, with right hand inside the bomb.   

The FBI files are NOT in consecutive page order!  Where TF does page 2859 come from ! ?  What part? What download?  vote the smileycode and safe  :offtopicman:

Shutter:

--- Quote ---FJ is using this page to claim Cooper was 'right handed' by how he carried the bomb to the Lav in his left hand, with right hand inside the bomb.
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I will have to look but a notation is at the bottom of Mitchell's statement saying his left hand was in and out of the case...Alice makes a statement that his right hand was in the briefcase the whole time...I seem to recall a statement that he had both hand on the briefcase coming out of the bathroom...the document doesn't match witness testimony...

Nancy House stated Cooper came out of the bathroom with the briefcase in both arms..

Shutter:
Still hard to determine what hand Cooper favored. he could of come out of the bathroom with it in his left hand so the briefcase is not so trapped coming out and turning right going down the isle. any type of quick detonation would be best on the outside vs the inside..I haven't found any witness statements of his hands in the case during the trip to the bathroom other than an agent stating it..

Read the full document..she seen him going to the bathroom only...


--- Quote ---FJ is using this page to claim Cooper was 'right handed' by how he carried the bomb to the Lav in his left hand, with right hand inside the bomb.
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I'm left handed and would do that configuration...hold the briefcase with my left and my right hand inside...70 -90% are right handed sooooo?

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