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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4500 on: December 19, 2018, 04:11:56 PM »
Correct, you have to put the blasting caps into the dynamite. (sold separately)  :rofl:
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4501 on: December 19, 2018, 04:12:31 PM »
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The whole thing was a bluff. unless he had mental issue's and didn't care about his life would be a reason to make a real bomb. he knew by showing a chosen few he could get away with a fake bomb.

He might be surpised if he read Tina's descriptions. She was one sharp cookie!  :congrats:
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4502 on: December 19, 2018, 04:13:46 PM »
It was fear that did them all in. they didn't notice a whole lot other than the dynamite. it's not that hard to make it look real enough to fool the average person...
 

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« Reply #4503 on: December 19, 2018, 04:15:03 PM »
It appears he had everything needed. nobody was sharp enough to see if a blasting cap was on the dynamite. it did what it needed to do IMO.
 

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« Reply #4504 on: December 19, 2018, 04:16:01 PM »
Same with McCoy. empty gun and a fake grenade...it did what it needed to do.
 

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« Reply #4505 on: December 19, 2018, 04:20:27 PM »
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It was fear that did them all in. they didn't notice a whole lot other than the dynamite. it's not that hard to make it look real enough to fool the average person...

Here is the actual testimony concerning the bomb:

(1) Mucklow: In briefcase left corner had 8 sticks of dynamite about 6 inches
long and 1 inch in diameter. Two rows of them then a red wire out of there.
Then a battery lite, a flashlight battery, only as thick as my arm and 8
inches long.

(2) Schaffner passed the note to Mucklow who called front.  Schaffner went and sat by the man who opened the brief case and showed her a bomb. He showed her a wire INSIDE the case and he said ‘touching this wire would detonate the bomb’!

(3) Mucklow: She recalls the contents of the case as approximately eight cylindrical objects about six to eight inches long with four of the items being placed on top of the others and banded together with (black) tape. She also recalls some covered and uncovered wiring running from the cylindrical objects to a dry cell type battery which had terminals on one end. She could not recall if the wires were connected to the terminals. The battery was described as approximately eight inches long and about two and one-half in diameter. She states that she had the impression seeing the contents that (it could be) dynamite; however, she is unfamiliar with the (exact) appearance of dynamite and could only describe it as stated above, adding that it (the sticks) were a “reddish rusty color”.                       
Mucklow recalled that during the flight from Portland to Seattle, all passengers were moved at least three rows forward from the back row where the hijacker was seated. At one time the subject stated that the bomb he had was electrically fused and he certainly hoped the crew would not generate any electrical currents which would trigger it!

(4) Mucklow sat next to the man and shortly thereafter he opened a black cheap appearing imitation leather attache case and showed her a device, with eight red cylindarsand a wire running from the cylindars toward a large 6x8x2” battery. The wire had a red plastic coating on it except for the last inch which was bare and the man was holding between his fingers. He told (me) it was an electronic device and suggested the aircraft radio be used as little as possible. He then said ‘he didn’t think radio transmissions would bother it, but he wanted the crew warned’ .

(5) Crew: The lights were out in the rear compartment and she went forward, faced the curtain, and turned around and looked  and the last time she saw him he had a nylon cord tied around his waste and he was standing in the isle. Before she secured the curtain she called back and pleaded with him to take the bomb with him or disarm it before he left.  He said not to worry and he would take the bomb with him. 

(6) Rataczak recalls the hijacker indicated the bomb had an ‘electrical fuse’ and instructed the hostess that radio transmissions be limited as much as possible so that they would not set off the bomb.

Take-away:  Cooper knew about Electro-magnetic Induction. He employed that principle to try and get the crew to limit radio transmissions. This is a vein attempt to isolate the crew and the plane from the outside world. He presented a wiring system commensurate with a real bomb -all technical experts that have read this testimony agree with that.  . . .
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4506 on: December 19, 2018, 04:24:49 PM »
I think it would be interesting to compare the batteries in the bomb to the batteries that hunters (coon hunters in particular) were using at the time. I have a strong hunch they were the same.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4507 on: December 19, 2018, 04:29:02 PM »
The dynamite might of been real, but no blasting cap. all you need to do is get a look a like battery, toss some wires in with it and some made up sticks or road flares with no writing on one side bundle them up and throw it in a briefcase and watch how real it becomes.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4508 on: December 19, 2018, 04:29:35 PM »
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I think it would be interesting to compare the batteries in the bomb to the batteries that hunters (coon hunters in particular) were using at the time. I have a strong hunch they were the same.

OK, so Cooper is now a COON HUNTER! Yahooooooooooooooo!     :rofl:

OK Cooper is now a Coon Hunter .... WITH A DEGREE IN PHYSICS! Or maybe electrical engineering. Your average coon and alligator hunter dont know about ....... electromagnetic induction!  :nono:
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4509 on: December 19, 2018, 04:30:04 PM »
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I think it would be interesting to compare the batteries in the bomb to the batteries that hunters (coon hunters in particular) were using at the time. I have a strong hunch they were the same.


The battery was round 1.5 volts. not too many differed from another.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4510 on: December 19, 2018, 04:31:28 PM »
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The dynamite might of been real, but no blasting cap. all you need to do is get a look a like battery, toss some wires in with it and some made up sticks or road flares with no writing on one side bundle them up and throw it in a briefcase and watch how real it becomes.

I think you must stick with the testimony of what people saw and what Cooper did and not try to guess around this problem.
 

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« Reply #4511 on: December 19, 2018, 04:33:59 PM »
Maybe they didn't really get a good look at the bomb  :rofl:
 

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« Reply #4512 on: December 19, 2018, 04:34:46 PM »
How many hijackers in the history of plane jacking have brought up Electromagnetic Induction? One ... 94?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4513 on: December 19, 2018, 04:36:48 PM »
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Maybe they didn't really get a good look at the bomb  :rofl:

Ok so lets throw everything out.

Cooper was an alligator hunter and a food servidce worker who just happened to invoke the physics of Electromagnetic Induction - that is one weird alligator hunter/coon hunter/foul mouthed food service worker.

Stick to the testimony given in black and white English. This is not a SKYJACK/BULLJAX problem!
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4514 on: December 19, 2018, 04:37:42 PM »
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The dynamite might of been real, but no blasting cap. all you need to do is get a look a like battery, toss some wires in with it and some made up sticks or road flares with no writing on one side bundle them up and throw it in a briefcase and watch how real it becomes.

I think you must stick with the testimony of what people saw and what Cooper did and not try to guess around this problem.


what they saw was 8 round stiks (red) with wires coming out of the sticks attached to a battery. actually, I believe they failed to notice if it was attached to the sticks.