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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4485 on: December 18, 2018, 03:37:25 PM »
you can throw dynamite in a fire and nothing will happen...
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4486 on: December 18, 2018, 03:45:03 PM »
Dynamite is made of a stable form of  nitroglycerin. it needs a shock to explode. you can shoot it or drop it...Boom.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4487 on: December 18, 2018, 03:48:53 PM »
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you can throw dynamite in a fire and nothing will happen...

The average stewardess might not know that.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4488 on: December 18, 2018, 03:52:25 PM »
Was basically just answering the question of Cooper smoking around dynamite. not something to suggest but it was in the briefcase so it was basically safe. after checking. dropping seems safe..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4489 on: December 18, 2018, 03:56:38 PM »
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4490 on: December 18, 2018, 11:29:05 PM »
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Isnt a 1/4 stick like an M-80? Or is it 1/8th stick?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4491 on: December 18, 2018, 11:35:11 PM »
M 80 has black powder inside...not the same as dynamite so it won't explode if shot..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4492 on: December 19, 2018, 08:32:27 AM »
I've handled dynamite several time. I worked for a company in the mid 90's that did blasting. To set dynamite off, two things are needed: a spark and pressure. One without the other will not set it off.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4493 on: December 19, 2018, 11:24:13 AM »
Whoopsies.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4494 on: December 19, 2018, 03:53:18 PM »
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Whoopsies.


May have is the key word here.
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« Reply #4495 on: December 19, 2018, 03:55:33 PM »
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I've handled dynamite several time. I worked for a company in the mid 90's that did blasting. To set dynamite off, two things are needed: a spark and pressure. One without the other will not set it off.


would the spark have to be strong enough to pentetrate the paper?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4496 on: December 19, 2018, 04:04:24 PM »
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I've handled dynamite several time. I worked for a company in the mid 90's that did blasting. To set dynamite off, two things are needed: a spark and pressure. One without the other will not set it off.


would the spark have to be strong enough to pentetrate the paper?

Sticks and dynamite real or not, what has always interested me is the wiring Tina described several times. Ive asked myself several times (and others with ordinance experience have noticed also) - why go to all the trouble of wiring his bomb as if it could be real/functional? He obviously was interested in PRESENTATION. He assumed the stews would be describing what they saw in his bomb. He was concerned enough to try and cover that base toward a successful hijacking! If it was a bluff it was a strong bluff nobody would risk taking chances on. Cooper was conducting a plan he had worked out right from the start. It goes to Cooper's ideolect profile.
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« Reply #4497 on: December 19, 2018, 04:07:50 PM »
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Whoopsies.

May have is the key word here.

Defused dynamite. One lit cigarette. Explosive experts said it was possible.

There is a blasting cap in a stick of dynamite. Expose that and a cigarette can set it off.  And if Cooper armed real dynamite in any way, it became more sensitive to ignition by heat/flame.

Over time, dynamite sweats out the nitroglycerin. So if it was real dynamite, since nothing was found on the tie, at the very least it was not likely very old.

Very polite to the stewardesses, except for the part where he lit up next to his explosives and maybe took them to hell with him. I doubt it was real. The science now appears time to support that, though doesn't prove it.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4498 on: December 19, 2018, 04:11:04 PM »
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Whoopsies.

May have is the key word here.

Defused dynamite. One lit cigarette. Explosive experts said it was possible.

There is a blasting cap in a stick of dynamite. Expose that and a cigarette can set it off.  And if Cooper armed real dynamite in any way, it became more sensitive to ignition by heat/flame.

Over time, dynamite sweats out the nitroglycerin. So if it was real dynamite, since nothing was found on the tie, at the very least it was not likely very old.

Very polite to the stewardesses, except for the part where he lit up next to his explosives and maybe took them to hell with him. I doubt it was real. The science now appears time to support that, though doesn't prove it.

Dynamite does not come with a blasting cap in place - does it!? You have to put on in the stick. ??
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #4499 on: December 19, 2018, 04:11:25 PM »
The whole thing was a bluff. unless he had mental issue's and didn't care about his life would be a reason to make a real bomb. he knew by showing a chosen few he could get away with a fake bomb.
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