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georger

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #2655 on: February 23, 2018, 12:13:38 AM »
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Rather than rehash the events that caused the closing of this thread I have decided to remove the comments and open the thread back up...DO NOT diagnose someone's mental status on this forum...calling someone crazy, or nuts is one thing, but please refrain from direct mental terms unless you are qualified to do so...

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« Reply #2656 on: May 07, 2018, 03:32:25 PM »
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I remember when he was on websleuths, i wasn't pay much attention to what he was saying to even notice the backwards name. I recall farflung saying all the things in the letter were already public knowledge. as for Curtis being behind it, I doubt it. are we to believe Cooper has been watching all of this unfold on the internet for decades? would Cooper even care if he was still alive what was going on?

There is some utility in the creation and maintenance of a shrine to the lowlife folk hero in that it creates a nicely feathered nest for him to feel comfortable – to be among friends.  If he were alive, feeling relatively secure that he would never be captured, it is not outside the realm of possibilities that he would monitor or even mingle with his worshipers from time to time. It may also be a skillful way of gleaning information that ‘investigators’ may have about the ‘investigation’ that would be of interest to the fugitive.  How easy it would be for him to cloak himself so that the enamored wouldn’t recognize him, even if he was sitting in their laps whispering sweet-nothings into their ears.  It’s easy - agree with the absurd - massage the egos of the faithful – ask innocuous questions only the hijacker would be interested in knowing the answers to - discredit detractors and divert ‘investigators’ that threaten to expose him into dead end back alleys to endlessly chase their tails.  Try flushing him out into the open by insulting the hero and his ugly snaggletoothed mommy who brought the evil scumbag into our midst.   How thin the skin of he and those who revere him.  Challenge the defensive positions to test and observe the response.  You know that you are getting close to something big when the dogs start barking, vipers strike, and the defensive positions are fortified.   
 
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« Reply #2657 on: May 12, 2018, 11:19:31 PM »
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I had a long conversation with Tom Colbert a week or so back..he claims to now be able to fill in a lot of gaps. he has had discussions with lots of people surrounding Rackstraw. I'm still not convinced but am willing to see the conclusion of this.

Tom has been in Hollywood for some time now and claims all the buzz surrounds Rackstraw when it comes to interest in the Cooper case. some of the things he told me are very interesting since they involve things, or people after the Cooper hijacking. he doesn't want this to be public knowledge just yet. if it's true it will open the case further putting other things into question.

I forgot to ask him about the money theory and why Cooper would the write a letter doing the opposite. perhaps I'll email him or he will read this and contact me..it is odd he would try and fake his death and turn a round and give them a puzzle..I told him he was wasting his time since the FBI believes Kenny Christiansen was DB Cooper  :rofl:

There have been appox 10 years of "claims" about the Cooper case. I think people are growing tired of that. The FBI had a golden opportunity to release actual FACTS about the case but chose to go with a few promoters, one scientist, and then closed the case in favour of released 302's to one guy (Colbert). A sober person might conclude this is an impossible state of affairs and go back to bowling, or golf, or fishing, or watching TV!  Josh Gates is coming back to the Discovery soon. Maybe a re-broadcast of his Cooper special. Tom Colbert who? Bruce Smith who? Robert M Blevins who? DB Cooper - who was that!  :-\ :-\ :-*

DB Cooper? Who cares. Never has there been a situation with so many promises and so few actual deliveries. Its enough to test the patience of Job.
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« Reply #2658 on: May 12, 2018, 11:38:59 PM »
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georger

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« Reply #2659 on: May 24, 2018, 01:59:59 PM »
How did LE collect prints in the cabin? Spray-photos, tape, other ...

If by tape what particles are on the tape? How do particles on the tape compare with particles Tom got off the tie?

Any dna?
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« Reply #2660 on: May 24, 2018, 02:15:47 PM »
How is it that the FBI didn't even look at the tie through an optical microscope? The aluminum shavings/turnings should have been easily seen thus calling for a deeper look with SEM, spectroscopic analysis etc. Seems like basic investigative protocols were ignored. Am I missing something?

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« Reply #2661 on: May 24, 2018, 02:35:59 PM »
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How is it that the FBI didn't even look at the tie through an optical microscope? The aluminum shavings/turnings should have been easily seen thus calling for a deeper look with SEM, spectroscopic analysis etc. Seems like basic investigative protocols were ignored. Am I missing something?

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Someone had to order tests. Without that there were no tests, of anything. Agents to not run around with microscopes in their kit.

The seats were removed. Apparently no tests on them except probably some finger print tests.  They tested everything for prints ... even the water!  :rofl:
 

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« Reply #2662 on: May 24, 2018, 02:48:06 PM »
OK, why weren't tests of the tie ordered? Sure this was pre DNA forensics, but pollen, fibers and other telling particles might have been found. I'm baffled why they just tagged and bagged it.
 

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« Reply #2663 on: May 24, 2018, 03:40:29 PM »
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How is it that the FBI didn't even look at the tie through an optical microscope? The aluminum shavings/turnings should have been easily seen thus calling for a deeper look with SEM, spectroscopic analysis etc. Seems like basic investigative protocols were ignored. Am I missing something?

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I doubt if you are missing anything.  In my always humble opinion, I think the whole case could have been resolved by the end of 1972 even if no one looked through a microscope or even if they didn't find Cooper's body. 
 

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« Reply #2664 on: May 24, 2018, 06:06:10 PM »
R99 can you explain a bit more? How would they have ID'd Cooper by the end of 72 without a body?

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« Reply #2665 on: May 24, 2018, 07:59:19 PM »
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R99 can you explain a bit more? How would they have ID'd Cooper by the end of 72 without a body?

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First, I didn't say Cooper would have been identified or even found.  But the chances of finding his body or impact location would have been much greater if the FBI had asked some 16-year-old student pilot, who had just taken and passed his/her written test for the private pilot rating, to use the un-redacted Seattle ATC radio transcripts to determine the flight path.  Instead, apparently some "experts" got involved who tried to prove their "expertise" by using such things as the Flight Data Recorder information and didn't know enough about how to interpret it to come up with a meaningful flight path.

Determining the flight path is not brain surgery or even rocket science.  But it can be determined by careful application of the information that is required to pass the private pilot's powered aircraft rating written examination.  It is as simple as that.
 
 

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« Reply #2666 on: May 24, 2018, 11:23:50 PM »
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OK, why weren't tests of the tie ordered? Sure this was pre DNA forensics, but pollen, fibers and other telling particles might have been found. I'm baffled why they just tagged and bagged it.

You mean Tom's tests? Ask Tom.
 

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« Reply #2667 on: June 08, 2018, 06:25:11 PM »
Some additional 727 skydive video from 1999 World Free Fall Convention.

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« Reply #2668 on: June 08, 2018, 08:48:35 PM »
Flight recorder analyzed "little bob" found at 8:09...

Did cooper leave the plane at 8:09 North of Merwyn?

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« Reply #2669 on: June 08, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »
Cooper did ask for maps?? What maps were they??

 
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