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2019 Cooper
« on: November 10, 2019, 08:27:04 PM »
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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2019, 08:48:50 PM »
Very cool.

Let's start the thread off right by inviting people to celebrate--or acknowledge--the 48th Anniversary of the DB Cooper skyjacking at CooperCon 2019. The official website is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

CooperCon 2019 takes place on Saturday, November 23rd at Kiggins Theatre in Vancouver, WA. It's an all day event from 10AM - 5PM.

There will be social events starting the evening of Friday, November 22nd. The last evening of activities is Sunday, November 24th.

CooperCon 2019 is "Everything DB Cooper!"

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 12:47:14 PM »
11 days from CooperCon 2019.
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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 01:27:10 PM »
Hard to choose between EU's boat pilgrimage to the holy site and Bruce's generously hosted land tour of Cooper Territory.
I'm arriving Friday evening and departing Monday morning. I especially want to attend the evening brew chats. Last year members of the general public (not Vortex folks) attended these events and came forward with interesting questions and even possible Cooper evidence. None of the evidence panned out but who knows? Some evening it could happen, the clue that ties it all together. We Vortex dwellers like to think that it will be one of us who solves the case, but it's more likely that it will be a friend or relative of Cooper's who finds the probative link.

Too bad TK and his crew can't attend. Good sleuths and good folks. I'll miss them.

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 01:29:59 PM »
I hope Shutter lets Georger back on after a cooling down period. Georger can be grouchy, but he adds a lot of value. He raises the average IQ of any forum he joins. I actually wish he'd attend CooperCon.

Jerry Thomas was at times irascible on Dropzone. In-person, at the first Portland Symposium, he was a perfect gentleman. I'd love to publically debate the survivability of Cooper's jump with Jerry someday. I have a lot of respect for his qualifications and opinions but I think he is wrong that it was an almost certainly fatal jump.

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 03:04:01 PM »
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Too bad TK and his crew can't attend. Good sleuths and good folks. I'll miss them.

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Tom mentioned to me yesterday that he'd be interesting in speaking with the CooperCon crowd via Skype if we can work it out technologically. I'm checking into that, so, there is a possibility that after we run Tom's 2018 talk about the tie and tie particles, he may be on-hand live via Skype to answer audience questions.
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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 03:19:11 PM »
Skyping with Tom would be fantastic. I hope it happens.
 

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 03:48:09 PM »
Road Tour Update - The Itinerary

The countryside of Hockinson is lovely. It will really surprise many Cooperites, I  believe, as it did me. It looks today very similarly as it did in 1971. Large dairy farmlands, no major hills, gentle rolling terrain. It looked ideal for an LZ.

We will meet at the Shari's in Orchards, WA at 1 pm. Shari's is a restaurant in the Fred Meyer shopping mall at the southeast corner of 76th and 117th. The latter thoroughfare is also known and posted as State Route 500/503.

Orchards is where the FBI thought DBC jumped in its 1975 revised analysis, putting the new LZ in the Hockinson area, about 3-5 northeast of Orchards.

Orchards was rural agricultural lands in 1971, but now it is a fully integrated part of the Portland-Vancouver metroplex. But Hockinson is just beyond the reach of those urban encroachments. In fact, Hockinson is now the bedroom/playground community for the very wealthy of SW Washington.

To reach Hockinson, first we'll leave Shari's and head north on 500/503 to their junction, then turn east on 500 and continue approximately five miles to 182nd Avenue. There we will turn north and head to Hockinson.

From Hochinson we will motor north, and then west back to SR 503 in Battleground, which is the original jump-off spot, and travel northeast along 503 to Amboy, the initial LZ. There we will leave 503 again and explore the forestlands along Cedar Creek Road where the initial ground search began on November 27th and continued until Sunday, November 29.

Next, we'll travel to Bernice Rhodes' home and antique store at the intersection of Pup Creek Road and Spurriel Road - just north of Cedar Creek Road - to hear her account of the intense house-to-house search for DB Cooper in that neighborhood conducted by the FBI in early December, 1971.

Afterwards, folks will have to make a decision - travel 25 miles northeast along SR 503 to Lake Merwin, the Dam, and the Ariel Tavern, or join me and other hungry Cooperites and head along the southern flank of the Lewis River via Cedar Creek Road to Woodland and arrive at La Casa Tapatia for dinner. Note: LCT is on 503, too!

After din-din, the intrepid can travel east on 503 for 12 miles to the Ariel Tavern and the Merwin Dam complex. That's an easy drive compared to the circuitous route on 503 from Amboy, which will take at least 30-40 minutes of curvy, mountainous driving. The area east of Lake Merwin can be quite rugged.
 

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 07:00:49 PM »
One cool new event at CooperCon will be a 40-minute "DB Cooper Jeopardy" trivia game. Bruce will host the game which will involve three members from the audience.

With this in mind, if you have a good DB Cooper trivia question that Bruce may want to ask perhaps it could be posted here. This may help Bruce given he is the MC for the game.
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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2019, 07:13:19 PM »
He jumped out of a 727 on November 24, 1971....who was......... :rofl:
 

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2019, 07:16:54 PM »
Bruce could go with a basic question such as: What denomination was the bills delivered to DB Cooper?
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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2019, 07:23:43 PM »
Easy one should be the name of the airline..
Hard might be where the plane landed..
Name two of the stews with the third to answer
DB Cooper was an alias for.....
How many parachutes
Coopers drink

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 05:23:53 PM »
I love these - thanks!
 

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 06:07:56 PM »
CooperCon 2019 Jeopardy Questions

Since I assume that most folks here will either not be at CooperCon or will disqualify themselves from this contest to allow REAL people to take a crack at Cooper Lore, I'm posting my list of suggested Jeopardy Questions for fun and feedback:

CooperCon 2019 Jeopardy Questions, 11. 13. 19

1.   Now owned by Delta Airlines, the plane DB Cooper stole was owned and operated by this airline: _________________

2.   After DB Cooper jumped, his 727 landed at what airport?

3.   At 24 years-old, the leader of the flight attendants was Alice Hancock. At 22, the youngest FA was Tina Mucklow. At 23, who was the third flight attendant?

4.   DB Cooper was an alias for.....

5.   How many parachutes were delivered to DB Cooper as part of his ransom?

6.   DB Cooper had one drink. What was it?

7.   1st Officer Bill Rataczak was flying DB Cooper’s plane on the getaway flight, but who was the Captain?

8.   DB Cooper’s ransom bills were all what denomination?

9.   DB Cooper was given $200,000 in a bank bag. How much did all that money weigh?

10.    Having passed away recently at 94 years-old, FBI Special Agent Ralph Himmelsbach was arguably the most famous federal investigator in the DB Cooper case. But who was the FBI Special Agent actually in charge?

11.    Officially, the FBI calls the DB Cooper case by what name?

12.    Murdered in 2013 by a still-unidentified assailant, this man was the de facto technical expert on parachutes for the FBI.

13.    DB Cooper specifically chose a 727 to hijack because it had a special feature that no other airplanes had. What was it?

14.    After DB Cooper stole his airplane, 12 domestic skyjackers copied Cooper. Can you name any of them?

15.    To thwart future DB Cooper Copy Cats, in 1972 the FAA required Boeing to retro-fit all 727s with this device.

16.    Although the FBI officially closed the DB Cooper case in 2016, what private investigative organization it founded in 2009 is still examining evidence in the case?

17.    Known to many as “Twisty Butt,” her uncle was the last suspect in the DB Cooper case that the FBI investigated. What was the name of the uncle and his niece?

18.    Although she refused to speak publicly for 30 years and spent 12 of those years in a cloistered convent, she remains the primary witness in the DB Cooper case. Who is she?

19.    Across the river from PDX where the DB Cooper skyjacking started, this city is also the closest urban area to where DB Cooper most likely landed when he jumped.

20.    Although no alcohol is served at this “bar,” it is the place where three bundles of ransom money were found in 1980. What is the name of the money discovery site?

21.    The FBI has investigated how many suspects, approximately?

22.    Although exact numbers are hard to determine, over 900 people are known to have confessed to the DB Cooper skyjacking. True or false.

23.    Using the moniker “Ckret,” this FBI special agent revitalized the investigation when he took over in 2007. What is his name?

24. Along with his boss, SAC Frank Montoya, Jr., this FBI agent closed the case in 2016 citing the lack of any new leads and the need to re-distribute Bureau resources.

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Re: 2019 Cooper
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2019, 06:29:39 PM »
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CooperCon 2019 Jeopardy Questions

Since I assume that most folks here will either not be at CooperCon or will disqualify themselves from this contest to allow REAL people to take a crack at Cooper Lore, I'm posting my list of suggested Jeopardy Questions for fun and feedback:

CooperCon 2019 Jeopardy Questions, 11. 13. 19

1.   Now owned by Delta Airlines, the plane DB Cooper stole was owned and operated by this airline: _________________

2.   After DB Cooper jumped, his 727 landed at what airport?

3.   At 24 years-old, the leader of the flight attendants was Alice Hancock. At 22, the youngest FA was Tina Mucklow. At 23, who was the third flight attendant?

4.   DB Cooper was an alias for.....

5.   How many parachutes were delivered to DB Cooper as part of his ransom?

6.   DB Cooper had one drink. What was it?

7.   1st Officer Bill Rataczak was flying DB Cooper’s plane on the getaway flight, but who was the Captain?

8.   DB Cooper’s ransom bills were all what denomination?

9.   DB Cooper was given $200,000 in a bank bag. How much did all that money weigh?

10.    Having passed away recently at 94 years-old, FBI Special Agent Ralph Himmelsbach was arguably the most famous federal investigator in the DB Cooper case. But who was the FBI Special Agent actually in charge?

11.    Officially, the FBI calls the DB Cooper case by what name?

12.    Murdered in 2013 by a still-unidentified assailant, this man was the de facto technical expert on parachutes for the FBI.

13.    DB Cooper specifically chose a 727 to hijack because it had a special feature that no other airplanes had. What was it?

14.    After DB Cooper stole his airplane, 12 domestic skyjackers copied Cooper. Can you name any of them?

15.    To thwart future DB Cooper Copy Cats, in 1972 the FAA required Boeing to retro-fit all 727s with this device.

16.    Although the FBI officially closed the DB Cooper case in 2016, what private investigative organization it founded in 2009 is still examining evidence in the case?

17.    Known to many as “Twisty Butt,” her uncle was the last suspect in the DB Cooper case that the FBI investigated. What was the name of the uncle and his niece?

18.    Although she refused to speak publicly for 30 years and spent 12 of those years in a cloistered convent, she remains the primary witness in the DB Cooper case. Who is she?

19.    Across the river from PDX where the DB Cooper skyjacking started, this city is also the closest urban area to where DB Cooper most likely landed when he jumped.

20.    Although no alcohol is served at this “bar,” it is the place where three bundles of ransom money were found in 1980. What is the name of the money discovery site?

21.    The FBI has investigated how many suspects, approximately?

22.    Although exact numbers are hard to determine, over 900 people are known to have confessed to the DB Cooper skyjacking. True or false.

23.    Using the moniker “Ckret,” this FBI special agent revitalized the investigation when he took over in 2007. What is his name?

24. Along with his boss, SAC Frank Montoya, Jr., this FBI agent closed the case in 2016 citing the lack of any new leads and the need to re-distribute Bureau resources.

Email me your answers and if you win, you will get a PRIZE.

Delta airlines does not own the Cooper 727.  It was scrapped, disassembled, and melted down quite a few years back.