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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #300 on: December 05, 2018, 09:52:22 PM »
nice find Shutter.
I think Reca's is from the late 70's to early '80s era of KGB id's.
Who knows what people were doing then
But: it could be recent. who knows. Would have to examine physically closely.

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #301 on: December 05, 2018, 11:41:52 PM »
One element that I would like to know more about is the 1.5 years that Reca supposedly spent in training with the CIA operatives who bailed him out of the DBC rap.

Vern made a brief reference to it, and said something like Reca said his " head was shaped." Vern mentioned it during a conversation about MKULTRA.

I like Shutter's and 377's reference to Norjak and CIA ops getting mixed together and ground into hamburger meat. Maybe it's all Total BS. Maybe Reca is the Biggest Wannabee we have seen to date. If so, that makes his appearance in Cle Elum tantamount to another money find at T-Bar.
 

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #302 on: December 06, 2018, 12:39:29 AM »
not really?

There is always a simple explanation for the money that works.
Cooper jumped near Portland, lost the money in the Columbia and it moved downstream and got dredged up.
A low-oxygen environment would preserve it in the river (under sand, say)

There is no explanation of Reca's jump story,  and the flight path, that makes sense.

So Reca is not a Tena Bar thing.
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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #303 on: December 06, 2018, 12:58:37 AM »
Shutter posted an image before of another soviet doc..I'm not sure if it was Reca's

it's a trade union card I believe

I found a blank one on Ebay if someone needs to forge it for Reca
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It's a bargain..you also get another blank work card thingee..

Note it's from 1986?

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #304 on: December 06, 2018, 03:53:08 AM »
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One element that I would like to know more about is the 1.5 years that Reca supposedly spent in training with the CIA operatives who bailed him out of the DBC rap.

Vern made a brief reference to it, and said something like Reca said his " head was shaped." Vern mentioned it during a conversation about MKULTRA.

I like Shutter's and 377's reference to Norjak and CIA ops getting mixed together and ground into hamburger meat. Maybe it's all Total BS. Maybe Reca is the Biggest Wannabee we have seen to date. If so, that makes his appearance in Cle Elum tantamount to another money find at T-Bar.

How about an inveterate liar-con artist mixed with dementia?
 

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #305 on: December 06, 2018, 04:31:35 AM »
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One element that I would like to know more about is the 1.5 years that Reca supposedly spent in training with the CIA operatives who bailed him out of the DBC rap.

Vern made a brief reference to it, and said something like Reca said his " head was shaped." Vern mentioned it during a conversation about MKULTRA.

I like Shutter's and 377's reference to Norjak and CIA ops getting mixed together and ground into hamburger meat. Maybe it's all Total BS. Maybe Reca is the Biggest Wannabee we have seen to date. If so, that makes his appearance in Cle Elum tantamount to another money find at T-Bar.

How about an inveterate liar-con artist mixed with dementia?

Yup, sounds about right. Now we need to figure out what Cle Elum means.
 

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #306 on: December 06, 2018, 06:18:16 AM »
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One element that I would like to know more about is the 1.5 years that Reca supposedly spent in training with the CIA operatives who bailed him out of the DBC rap.

Vern made a brief reference to it, and said something like Reca said his " head was shaped." Vern mentioned it during a conversation about MKULTRA.

I like Shutter's and 377's reference to Norjak and CIA ops getting mixed together and ground into hamburger meat. Maybe it's all Total BS. Maybe Reca is the Biggest Wannabee we have seen to date. If so, that makes his appearance in Cle Elum tantamount to another money find at T-Bar.

How about an inveterate liar-con artist mixed with dementia?


Today, you see more and more people acting like cops. they sometimes have cars fully loaded and then stolen valor with the military. I think Reca is the first generation of this. he played spy for a long time and somehow Cooper came into the picture. perhaps when he was asked if he was Cooper the story began. he's a basic con-artist but doesn't take advantage of people or steal. the only thing he tries to steal is your trust.
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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #307 on: December 06, 2018, 09:54:42 AM »
I mentioned before how the interesting thing about DBC, is not DBC, but about how normal people in the USA want to believe stuff, or come to believe stuff.

I'm flabbergasted that at the Coopercon, these apparently normal people got up and told a Reca story, truly believing it.
And showed "evidence".

Yet apparently no one asked the basic question "How were the passports and id cards authenticated?"

It's like, when normal people stand up and say bullshit with a straight face, people just believe.

It's like the Marla thing, except there were no reports of physical beauty accompanying the bullshit this time?

I mean, really.

Why not just hire professionals to perform? They're much better.

And where's this Vern dude? Is he showing up here? I'm preparing the tar and feathers and it takes a while for the tar to heat up.
 

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #308 on: December 06, 2018, 11:03:04 AM »
Snow, can you find out if Reca was really a USAF Reserve Para Rescue Jumper?
I think the KGB ID and foreign passports are fake. So what other parts of his story are false? He doesn’t seem sharp like all the PJs I’ve known. There is info online about him being an accomplished sport jumper.
Might he have been just a grunt reservist and added the PJ flourish?

Spies probably do have fake passports. But not everyone with a fake passport is a spy. Georger logic. Comes in handy.

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #309 on: December 06, 2018, 11:17:32 AM »
Snow wrote: “And where's this Vern dude? Is he showing up here? I'm preparing the tar and feathers and it takes a while for the tar to heat up.”

Don’t be mean Snow. The Reca crew are nice guys. They just haven’t been skeptical enough. Would you tar and feather Marla?

I’m not articulate enough to get this across as clearly as I’d like but somehow the Cooper legend offers losers, guys who haven’t made much of their lives, an opportunity to change all that in an instant. If you are Cooper you are competent, cool, daring, successful. Years of idle time were not evidence of sloth but rather laying low, staying under the radar. This reinventing of one’s self can also be done posthumously by a surviving spouse or relative.

Reca wanted to be remembered as a bad ass hero so he punched the Cooper button. And the spy button. And the hit man button. He papered it clumsily with fake documents some of which were not even filled in properly.

The irony is that a poorly crafted fake Cooper confession makes you an even bigger loser.

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #310 on: December 06, 2018, 12:18:32 PM »
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Snow wrote: “And where's this Vern dude? Is he showing up here? I'm preparing the tar and feathers and it takes a while for the tar to heat up.”

Don’t be mean Snow. The Reca crew are nice guys. They just haven’t been skeptical enough. Would you tar and feather Marla?

I’m not articulate enough to get this across as clearly as I’d like but somehow the Cooper legend offers losers, guys who haven’t made much of their lives, an opportunity to change all that in an instant. If you are Cooper you are competent, cool, daring, successful. Years of idle time were not evidence of sloth but rather laying low, staying under the radar. This reinventing of one’s self can also be done posthumously by a surviving spouse or relative.

Reca wanted to be remembered as a bad ass hero so he punched the Cooper button. And the spy button. And the hit man button. He papered it clumsily with fake documents some of which were not even filled in properly.

The irony is that a poorly crafted fake Cooper confession makes you an even bigger loser.

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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #311 on: December 06, 2018, 12:56:06 PM »
Facts don't require one to be articulate. Anyone can recite facts. Bullshit requires one to be articulate. Just recite the facts and how you know they are true.
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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #312 on: December 06, 2018, 01:08:20 PM »
Everyone involved with Reca appear to be slime and deserve no special empathy.

The friend secretly taped Reca? Or did Reca know? If secretly, that's slimey.

A publisher who published without fact checking is another Blevins. Innocence claim by stupidity is nothing that deserves mercy.

This is not about Reca. It's about the living slime using his story.
 
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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #313 on: December 06, 2018, 01:58:26 PM »
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Everyone involved with Reca appear to be slime and deserve no special empathy.

The friend secretly taped Reca? Or did Reca know? If secretly, that's slimey.

A publisher who published without fact checking is another Blevins. Innocence claim by stupidity is nothing that deserves mercy.

This is not about Reca. It's about the living slime using his story.

Critical care medicine is one of the fastest-growing hospital specialties and ... teamwork, which has helped improve outcomes for patients claiming to be DB Cooper, and their victims, has proved essential.

Standard protocols for examination and separation of all DB Cooper claimants and their victims should always be observed - as a first order step in the treatment process. Journalists and enablers should be separated from the primary targets immediately at the time of presentation for a more effective outcome. The initial exam shall include examination of all orifices for insertions of foreign objects.... including Red Bull energy drink cans.  Blood work should include testing for the standard parasitic infestations.     

While the original concepts of triage were primarily focused on mass casualty ... The original triage systems were based on sorting schizophrenic patients on the Cooper battlefield ... and streaming system or concept, which firstly identifies patient need, separating it from the greater dias-corpus. People with Canadian origins are now presenting at a greater rate. Special systems are being devised to handle those patients suffering under the influence of the Cooper Comic Manic Depressive maldum fornax! Future data will determine the effectiveness of those new programs. It must be stated however, this special class of patients is uniquely self-limiting due to their characteristic self destructive tendencies. It remains to be seen if institutions will even see many of these victims - time will tell!

Conclusion:  Triage in the DB Cooper critical care community has proven cost effective. The trend is positive especially as the average educational level of the population improves.   
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Re: 2018 DB Cooper Conference
« Reply #314 on: December 06, 2018, 05:28:40 PM »
The only matching British passport I could find was Audrey Hepburn's 1980's passport. no seal is on her photo.